Nick Bosa, EDGE, Ohio St(The Politics Free Thread)

Originally posted by bopicksix:

Originally posted by marc1_007:

Here is Mcginest talking about watching tape on Bosa (@ 0:49)
https://youtu.be/9zaUVYx2u_8?t=39

Here is Woody talking about Watching tape on Bosa (@ 7:40)
https://youtu.be/QYEQHH_25o8?t=460

But I guess you are saying that they are liars and have not really watched any tapes or maybe they have some kind of grudge or bias against him.
I guess anyone who does not rate him as highly as you do is biased because they are not allowed to have a negative opinion on him or maybe they are not allowed to see something on film that they don't like, I understand that you love him as a prospect but that does not mean everyone that does not is biased or has an agenda, everyone on that ESPN panel did not think he was the top prospect in the draft but I guess they must all be biased then.

I know what I see on tape but that's my opinion and I respect everyone's opinion because everyone sees something different when they watch tape it does not mean they are wrong or right all that really matters is the opinion of the GM that drafts him so if we do take him i'd support him and hope he gets 15 sacks a season but it doesn't mean that the negative opinions of him are all wrong because it does not suit your narrative.

This is good stuff, one guy who played the same position at the highest level, a champion, another guy who competed against the position at the highest level, a champion, both guys played for the greatest football mind of our generation, maybe ever.

How quickly the credibility of a few can crush the overwhelming majority who has been trying to will bosa into the discussion as this drafts top prospect.

Originally posted by bopicksix:

This is good stuff, one guy who played the same position at the highest level, a champion, another guy who competed against the position at the highest level, a champion, both guys played for the greatest football mind of our generation, maybe ever.

How quickly the credibility of a few can crush the overwhelming majority who has been trying to will bosa into the discussion as this drafts top prospect.

Originally posted by bopicksix:

This is good stuff, one guy who played the same position at the highest level, a champion, another guy who competed against the position at the highest level, a champion, both guys played for the greatest football mind of our generation, maybe ever.

How quickly the credibility of a few can crush the overwhelming majority who has been trying to will bosa into the discussion as this drafts top prospect.

Originally posted by genus49:

Don't we all have a little bias? Not everyone looks for the same things in a player.

If Justin Smith watches tape and Willie McGinest watches tape do you think they have the same opinion on players?

And I'm not calling him a liar but I do question how much tape he watched. Scouts and people who have an actual reason to evaluate talent watching tape vs a football analyst just talking about something during the offseason is very different.

He's allowed to have his opinion like anyone else...all I'm saying is some people throwing out those videos like proof on why he's not worth #2 overall doesn't prove anything. Anyone in the media MAY(not saying they all do) have their own agendas and biases. That's all I was pointing out.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Being a former player doesn't mean you know how to properly scout and evaluate players. John Elway a HOF QB, appears to know jack s**t about evaluating QBs. Matt Millen was a former player too.



The word of someone like Cossell who I know studies the hell out of gamefilm means a lot more to me than all the Woody's of the world.

Originally posted by bopicksix:

Originally posted by marc1_007:
Here is Mcginest talking about watching tape on Bosa (@ 0:49)
https://youtu.be/9zaUVYx2u_8?t=39

Here is Woody talking about Watching tape on Bosa (@ 7:40)
https://youtu.be/QYEQHH_25o8?t=460

But I guess you are saying that they are liars and have not really watched any tapes or maybe they have some kind of grudge or bias against him.
I guess anyone who does not rate him as highly as you do is biased because they are not allowed to have a negative opinion on him or maybe they are not allowed to see something on film that they don't like, I understand that you love him as a prospect but that does not mean everyone that does not is biased or has an agenda, everyone on that ESPN panel did not think he was the top prospect in the draft but I guess they must all be biased then.

I know what I see on tape but that's my opinion and I respect everyone's opinion because everyone sees something different when they watch tape it does not mean they are wrong or right all that really matters is the opinion of the GM that drafts him so if we do take him i'd support him and hope he gets 15 sacks a season but it doesn't mean that the negative opinions of him are all wrong because it does not suit your narrative.

This is good stuff, one guy who played the same position at the highest level, a champion, another guy who competed against the position at the highest level, a champion, both guys played for the greatest football mind of our generation, maybe ever.

How quickly the credibility of a few can crush the overwhelming majority who has been trying to will bosa into the discussion as this drafts top prospect.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Guys. AZ is taking Bosa .....

Originally posted by bopicksix:

Originally posted by marc1_007:

Here is Mcginest talking about watching tape on Bosa (@ 0:49)
https://youtu.be/9zaUVYx2u_8?t=39

Here is Woody talking about Watching tape on Bosa (@ 7:40)
https://youtu.be/QYEQHH_25o8?t=460

But I guess you are saying that they are liars and have not really watched any tapes or maybe they have some kind of grudge or bias against him.
I guess anyone who does not rate him as highly as you do is biased because they are not allowed to have a negative opinion on him or maybe they are not allowed to see something on film that they don't like, I understand that you love him as a prospect but that does not mean everyone that does not is biased or has an agenda, everyone on that ESPN panel did not think he was the top prospect in the draft but I guess they must all be biased then.

I know what I see on tape but that's my opinion and I respect everyone's opinion because everyone sees something different when they watch tape it does not mean they are wrong or right all that really matters is the opinion of the GM that drafts him so if we do take him i'd support him and hope he gets 15 sacks a season but it doesn't mean that the negative opinions of him are all wrong because it does not suit your narrative.

This is good stuff, one guy who played the same position at the highest level, a champion, another guy who competed against the position at the highest level, a champion, both guys played for the greatest football mind of our generation, maybe ever.

How quickly the credibility of a few can crush the overwhelming majority who has been trying to will bosa into the discussion as this drafts top prospect.

Originally posted by evil:

2) DEREK BARNETT: Best pass rusher in this class IMO. Not as freakish as Garrett, but more refined with hands & technique/on a better team.

— Willie McGinest (@WillieMcGinest) August 31, 2017

Originally posted by swaccmac1:

John Lynch played on one of the best defenses in the history of the nfl. That Tampa defense had hall of famers on every level including defensive line and linebacker. If lynch decides that bosa is the player at number 2, I think his word is just as good or better than 2 talking heads on tv. In my opinon bosa is the pick at number 2 if we are fortunate enough to be in position to take him.

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by bopicksix:

Originally posted by marc1_007:

Here is Mcginest talking about watching tape on Bosa (@ 0:49)
https://youtu.be/9zaUVYx2u_8?t=39

Here is Woody talking about Watching tape on Bosa (@ 7:40)
https://youtu.be/QYEQHH_25o8?t=460

But I guess you are saying that they are liars and have not really watched any tapes or maybe they have some kind of grudge or bias against him.
I guess anyone who does not rate him as highly as you do is biased because they are not allowed to have a negative opinion on him or maybe they are not allowed to see something on film that they don't like, I understand that you love him as a prospect but that does not mean everyone that does not is biased or has an agenda, everyone on that ESPN panel did not think he was the top prospect in the draft but I guess they must all be biased then.

I know what I see on tape but that's my opinion and I respect everyone's opinion because everyone sees something different when they watch tape it does not mean they are wrong or right all that really matters is the opinion of the GM that drafts him so if we do take him i'd support him and hope he gets 15 sacks a season but it doesn't mean that the negative opinions of him are all wrong because it does not suit your narrative.

This is good stuff, one guy who played the same position at the highest level, a champion, another guy who competed against the position at the highest level, a champion, both guys played for the greatest football mind of our generation, maybe ever.

How quickly the credibility of a few can crush the overwhelming majority who has been trying to will bosa into the discussion as this drafts top prospect.

2) DEREK BARNETT: Best pass rusher in this class IMO. Not as freakish as Garrett, but more refined with hands & technique/on a better team.

— Willie McGinest (@WillieMcGinest) August 31, 2017

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Guys. AZ is taking Bosa .....

Yeah, it seems that way since Josh Rosen is still on the team and first day of workouts is April 8th for them, which they pushed out hoping someone would take Rosen.

Originally posted by genus49:
Don't we all have a little bias? Not everyone looks for the same things in a player.

If Justin Smith watches tape and Willie McGinest watches tape do you think they have the same opinion on players?

And I'm not calling him a liar but I do question how much tape he watched. Scouts and people who have an actual reason to evaluate talent watching tape vs a football analyst just talking about something during the offseason is very different.

He's allowed to have his opinion like anyone else...all I'm saying is some people throwing out those videos like proof on why he's not worth #2 overall doesn't prove anything. Anyone in the media MAY(not saying they all do) have their own agendas and biases. That's all I was pointing out.

Originally posted by bopicksix:
This is good stuff, one guy who played the same position at the highest level, a champion, another guy who competed against the position at the highest level, a champion, both guys played for the greatest football mind of our generation, maybe ever.

How quickly the credibility of a few can crush the overwhelming majority who has been trying to will bosa into the discussion as this drafts top prospect.