Nick Bosa, EDGE, Ohio St(The Politics Free Thread)

is it draft day yet ..... bosa bosa bosa !!!!!!!!

Originally posted by WRATHman44:
I get what you are saying, but that's more about genetic variation than anything else. Odds are that you don't get multiple genetic freaks from the same family. However, if both guys are superior athletes, the family relationship doesn't hurt either of them. Both of the Bosas are superior athletes.

This is what I'm saying...it's not like Casey Matthews got a 1st rd grade because of his of his brother

Nick was a 5 star recruit and the top DE in the country coming out of HS in 2016. He's just good, really no reason to try and hate on it. Q is good as well. Hell this edge class is pretty damn sexy and more than likely they will all be gone in the top 20.

Then there are the Alous. When the Giants had all three brothers, they played them all in the outfield at the same time for one game - just for the halibut.

Oops, wrong sport. And no sushi. My bad.

Originally posted by swaccmac1:
is it draft day yet ..... bosa bosa bosa !!!!!!!!

Three weeks tomorrow.

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
I,listened to Damien Woody on NFL Live yesterday He said something that made me pause about Bosa.

I tried to get the vid but couldn't find any link.

This is what he said,

https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/214739-yolos-dream-comes-true-nick-bosa-to-the-bills/?page=1

He added he's have no problem handling Bosa because all he has is great hands but average speed.

Thoughts??

Someone else brought this up earlier, along with Willie McGinest's take on Bosa and it should tell you as much as Kyle Long saying Solomon Thomas was the best player in the draft in 2017.

NFL players know the game very well but they're not better than scouts, in fact I highly doubt Woody or McGinest actually sat down and watched Nick's film. I'm pretty certain they throw on the highlights and check the stats like most casual draft followers. They don't get paid for their draft breakdowns. If Bosa goes on to win DROY and then defensive MVP on to a HOF career nobody will fire them.

And guys have their own bias. Bill Polian/Charlie Casserly whichever old white GM it was talking about Dwayne Haskins as being a mobile QB is a perfect example.

The film shows while he may not be Von Miller, he's got plenty of athletic ability to go with the hands, the technique. Maybe he won't be someone breaking the sack record but he'd be someone other teams fear.

Career stats-
29 games played, 47 tackles, 30 assisted, 17.5 sacks, 29 tackles for loss.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by swaccmac1:
is it draft day yet ..... bosa bosa bosa !!!!!!!!

Three weeks tomorrow.

ok ... back to sleep lol!!!

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
I,listened to Damien Woody on NFL Live yesterday He said something that made me pause about Bosa.

I tried to get the vid but couldn't find any link.

This is what he said,

https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/214739-yolos-dream-comes-true-nick-bosa-to-the-bills/?page=1

He added he's have no problem handling Bosa because all he has is great hands but average speed.

Thoughts??

Someone else brought this up earlier, along with Willie McGinest's take on Bosa and it should tell you as much as Kyle Long saying Solomon Thomas was the best player in the draft in 2017.

NFL players know the game very well but they're not better than scouts, in fact I highly doubt Woody or McGinest actually sat down and watched Nick's film. I'm pretty certain they throw on the highlights and check the stats like most casual draft followers. They don't get paid for their draft breakdowns. If Bosa goes on to win DROY and then defensive MVP on to a HOF career nobody will fire them.

And guys have their own bias. Bill Polian/Charlie Casserly whichever old white GM it was talking about Dwayne Haskins as being a mobile QB is a perfect example.

The film shows while he may not be Von Miller, he's got plenty of athletic ability to go with the hands, the technique. Maybe he won't be someone breaking the sack record but he'd be someone other teams fear.

Originally posted by Ronnie49Lott:
Career stats-
29 games played, 47 tackles, 30 assisted, 17.5 sacks, 29 tackles for loss.

now go look up his snap counts please

Originally posted by genus49:
That's ridiculous. He was a true sophomore and playing limited snaps. He put up numbers similar to what Aaron Donald did last year.

He averaged less sacks per snap to Donald last year.
He averaged more hurries and hits per snap to Donald last year.

The idea that he wasn't showing things on tape that popped is ridiculous.

He missed a chunk of this season where he was starting to show another level of play but yet people want to go back to his early tape from his 2nd season playing as proof of why he's overrated?

It's not a typical circumstance but he was rated as the #1 prospect because of what he did and the projection of how he would improve as a junior with more playing time.

You can complain about his competition but you play who you play. He had 4 sacks, 6 TFL in 3 games. He was straight up dominating before his injury.

so now you are comparing him against college opponents to Donald against NFL opposition?

Originally posted by genus49:

Someone else brought this up earlier, along with Willie McGinest's take on Bosa and it should tell you as much as Kyle Long saying Solomon Thomas was the best player in the draft in 2017.

NFL players know the game very well but they're not better than scouts, in fact I highly doubt Woody or McGinest actually sat down and watched Nick's film. I'm pretty certain they throw on the highlights and check the stats like most casual draft followers. They don't get paid for their draft breakdowns. If Bosa goes on to win DROY and then defensive MVP on to a HOF career nobody will fire them.

And guys have their own bias. Bill Polian/Charlie Casserly whichever old white GM it was talking about Dwayne Haskins as being a mobile QB is a perfect example.

The film shows while he may not be Von Miller, he's got plenty of athletic ability to go with the hands, the technique. Maybe he won't be someone breaking the sack record but he'd be someone other teams fear.

That was Stephen A Smith no?

Originally posted by genus49:
Someone else brought this up earlier, along with Willie McGinest's take on Bosa and it should tell you as much as Kyle Long saying Solomon Thomas was the best player in the draft in 2017.

NFL players know the game very well but they're not better than scouts, in fact I highly doubt Woody or McGinest actually sat down and watched Nick's film. I'm pretty certain they throw on the highlights and check the stats like most casual draft followers. They don't get paid for their draft breakdowns. If Bosa goes on to win DROY and then defensive MVP on to a HOF career nobody will fire them.

And guys have their own bias. Bill Polian/Charlie Casserly whichever old white GM it was talking about Dwayne Haskins as being a mobile QB is a perfect example.

The film shows while he may not be Von Miller, he's got plenty of athletic ability to go with the hands, the technique. Maybe he won't be someone breaking the sack record but he'd be someone other teams fear.

So basically what you are saying is that if their opinion does not match yours, they are casual draft followers and don't actually watch film but highlights, yet they are actually paid to be analyst, but since you say that's how it is I guess you must be right then, If someone else's opinion does not mirror yours, you don't actually have to put them down, they are allowed to have a different opinion to you and it was Stephen A Smith that called Haskins a mobile quarterback and not Polian or Casserly.

GOT, Avengers Endgame, and Bosa... should be a good month

Originally posted by NinerBuff:
GOT, Avengers Endgame, and Bosa... should be a good month

My bday in 4 days. And the only gift I want is Bosa.

Originally posted by NinerBuff:
GOT, Avengers Endgame, and Bosa... should be a good month

Joey Bosa is going to be in GOT, so those two are tied together. Dunno how to fit Avengers in there though.