Nick Bosa, EDGE, Ohio St(The Politics Free Thread)

Originally posted by fan49:

3 games in to 3rd sason. And you exclude senior ACL tear. All that is relevant. With your point of view someone like Allen is just as injury prone. Which is complete joke.

Does not matter if it was the 3rd game or the 12th game. Injuries are a part of professional sports and his injuries are not of the sort that carry long term worry. The ACL was over 4 years ago and has not affected him in the least.

There is no need to over exaggerate his injury history and try to play it up. He did medical testing at the combine and we will likely hear something in April if there is a reason for concern. Until then, there is no need to panic. If his injuries were such a concern right now, he would not have remained the top prospect in this class yet everyone has him listed as such.

idk why people keep bringing up his acl tear from high school when it never effected him at all in college. Injuries happen in football. Anyone can get injured at any moment.

Originally posted by gold49digger:
idk why people keep bringing up his acl tear from high school when it never effected him at all in college. Injuries happen in football. Anyone can get injured at any moment.

yeah but you can roid up in college.Not in the Goodell F .L.

Anyone got that still of Nick lifting that lineman off the ground?

lol

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Lets pass on Bosa because of injury concerns and then trade for OBJ who has missed 16 games in the last 2 seasons.

Solid logic.

All I'm saying is if we can get more capital we should. OBJ would be a stud in this offense. Ramsey would also be huge on this defense. The pass rushers in this draft are insane. 🤷🏽‍♂️ Again just my opinion on things.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Jaysimms:

I know a lot of people here are high on Bosa but in my honest opinion I would rather pass on him. Absolutely a great talent but I believe he is going to continue to fight against injuries through out his career. I'm honestly hoping we can somehow trade with giants or jags and acquire their first with OBJ or Ramsey in some sort.

Obviously we would have to add something but I feel as though there are a lot of talented pss rushers in this draft that we could get and they can learn behind a veteran like Justin Houston for a year or two and be a plug and play at first. Just my thoughts.

Lets pass on Bosa because of injury concerns and then trade for OBJ who has missed 16 games in the last 2 seasons.

Solid logic.

People still call Jimmy Garoppolo Injury prone because an OL fell on his shoulder, and his knee buckled on bad turf in KC. It drives me nuts that people don't bother to look into how the player got hurt before labeling him. Freak injuries are not the same as chronic injuries.

Originally posted by Jaysimms:
lol

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Lets pass on Bosa because of injury concerns and then trade for OBJ who has missed 16 games in the last 2 seasons.

Solid logic.

All I'm saying is if we can get more capital we should. OBJ would be a stud in this offense. Ramsey would also be huge on this defense. The pass rushers in this draft are insane. 🤷🏽‍♂️ Again just my opinion on things.

You were saying Bosa should be a pass because of injuries and yet you want OBJ who hasnt been fully healthy since 2016.

I dont disagree OBJ would be awesome in this system.

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Jaysimms:
I know a lot of people here are high on Bosa but in my honest opinion I would rather pass on him. Absolutely a great talent but I believe he is going to continue to fight against injuries through out his career. I'm honestly hoping we can somehow trade with giants or jags and acquire their first with OBJ or Ramsey in some sort.

Obviously we would have to add something but I feel as though there are a lot of talented pss rushers in this draft that we could get and they can learn behind a veteran like Justin Houston for a year or two and be a plug and play at first. Just my thoughts.

Lets pass on Bosa because of injury concerns and then trade for OBJ who has missed 16 games in the last 2 seasons.

Solid logic.

People still call Jimmy Garoppolo Injury prone because an OL fell on his shoulder, and his knee buckled on bad turf in KC. It drives me nuts that people don't bother to look into how the player got hurt before labeling him. Freak injuries are not the same as chronic injuries.

You tried to make this point with Brandon Belt too. It doesnt matter if the injuries are freak injuries. Being prone to injury is being prone to injury. How they happen is irrelevant.

Originally posted by fan49:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by fan49:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by Jaysimms:

I know a lot of people here are high on Bosa but in my honest opinion I would rather pass on him. Absolutely a great talent but I believe he is going to continue to fight against injuries through out his career. I'm honestly hoping we can somehow trade with giants or jags and acquire their first with OBJ or Ramsey in some sort.

Obviously we would have to add something but I feel as though there are a lot of talented pss rushers in this draft that we could get and they can learn behind a veteran like Justin Houston for a year or two and be a plug and play at first. Just my thoughts.

let's just not draft anyone high or pay anyone big money because, let's be honest, they will battle injuries throughout their career, lol

That's not accurate. He has shown in 3 seasons he can be out for like 20 weeks or more so far.

It is accurate because in 3 seasons of college only once did he suffer a serious injury. So we should never draft any player ever who has had a serious injury then. Probably should do the same with Free Agents.

3 games in to 3rd sason. And you exclude senior ACL tear. All that is relevant

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by fan49:

3 games in to 3rd sason. And you exclude senior ACL tear. All that is relevant. With your point of view someone like Allen is just as injury prone. Which is complete joke.

Does not matter if it was the 3rd game or the 12th game. Injuries are a part of professional sports and his injuries are not of the sort that carry long term worry. The ACL was over 4 years ago and has not affected him in the least.

There is no need to over exaggerate his injury history and try to play it up. He did medical testing at the combine and we will likely hear something in April if there is a reason for concern. Until then, there is no need to panic. If his injuries were such a concern right now, he would not have remained the top prospect in this class yet everyone has him listed as such.

And some get injured more than others. 10 weeks plus a season ending injury in 3 years. you can't say he doesn't have a chance to be injury prone. Everybody has a chance you're right. But he has more history than a bunch in the draft

Originally posted by Jaysimms:

lol

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Lets pass on Bosa because of injury concerns and then trade for OBJ who has missed 16 games in the last 2 seasons.

Solid logic.

All I'm saying is if we can get more capital we should. OBJ would be a stud in this offense. Ramsey would also be huge on this defense. The pass rushers in this draft are insane. 🤷🏽‍♂️ Again just my opinion on things.

I wouldn't say insane. It's a lower level than last year when it comes to the best rusher. But it's deeper

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Lets pass on Bosa because of injury concerns and then trade for OBJ who has missed 16 games in the last 2 seasons.

Solid logic.

I don't see it like that at all. I just see that the gap between OBJ and our wide receivers and any receiver in the draft is miles greater than the gap between Bosa and the best available pass rusher at the sixth pick in the draft.

Obviously if the trade doesn't net us the Giant's first pick I'd never be okay with it, but if it does, the net sum of talent is greater if we do it.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

You were saying Bosa should be a pass because of injuries and yet you want OBJ who hasnt been fully healthy since 2016.

I dont disagree OBJ would be awesome in this system.

I'm saying with the slew of rushers available in this draft and bosa injury history, I would be inclined to trade down with a team like giants or jags for obj or Ramsey and acquire a slightly lower rear pass rusher. I also said I wouldn't mind signing someone like houston who could be a very nice stop gap while the rookie develops if that's needed.

The boss family have always battled injuries. Not saying he will but hey if I can get obj/Ramsey and a good rusher still I'm taking it lol.

Originally posted by Jaysimms:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

You were saying Bosa should be a pass because of injuries and yet you want OBJ who hasnt been fully healthy since 2016.

I dont disagree OBJ would be awesome in this system.

I'm saying with the slew of rushers available in this draft and bosa injury history, I would be inclined to trade down with a team like giants or jags for obj or Ramsey and acquire a slightly lower rear pass rusher. I also said I wouldn't mind signing someone like houston who could be a very nice stop gap while the rookie develops if that's needed.

The boss family have always battled injuries. Not saying he will but hey if I can get obj/Ramsey and a good rusher still I'm taking it lol.

There are a "slew"of prospects but like always they will not all pan out. It is not as easy as just picking one and being good they may never develop.
I'll take my chances on Bosa staying healthy rather then picking one of a handful and hoping this staff can develop him.

I am all in for Bosa if he is there to be clear, but with the Justin Houston news let's talk pie in the sky. Say we sign Houston, does that change anybodies mind on a potential OBJ deal. So you could have Bosa/ Houston, or OBJ, Houston and let's say Williams. Which way do you go? And did that move
You off Bosa?

Originally posted by Heroism:

Dude, if this doesn't get the blood flowing straight to your football mushroom tip, please see yourself out of the forum. The combination of balance, footwork, and bend to shrink his surface area around the arc is bananas. Tackle basically had nothing to strike. Bro, look at those feet. The inside toe taking him to the QB and outside foot gaining depth. And oh yea, Nick isn't some 245 lbs speed rusher; he's 270 lbs. Holy s**t, Nick Bosa.

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