The Wonderlic

Every year NFL draft prospects are put through the Wonderlic Test. The test is "used to assess the aptitude of prospective employees for learning and problem-solving in a range of occupations."

Every year there's always players who score extremely low and for some this bring red flags. Sometimes guys score off the charts and get praise. Does it really have any effect on stock?

Do the scores mean anything to you? How much do you think evaluators weigh them?

Also for grins, here's this year's top QBs:
Josh Allen: 37
Sam Darnold: 28
Josh Rosen: 29
Baker Mayfield: 25
Lamar Jackson: 13

Dan Marino scored 16. Who gives a f**k about the wonderlic

bradshaw is a hof and he is dumb as rocks.

Tbh I'm surprised they still do the wonderlic

The wonderlich is actually a good, unbiased, well thought out and scientific test of the basic depth of one's practical thinking ability. Good for determining one's options in training and education. You'd be a good engineer, and you'd be a good car mechanic, and you'd be a good beer truck driver. That kind of thing.
Not all that relevant to football except for quarterback, where it can get a bit complex and you would not want a measured moron trying to master the position.
An IQ in the 90's is likely the minimum for learning the QB position thoroughly.
It's pretty well documented that borderline mental retarded players have done well at other positions.
Most football is about hard work and motivation, so if you are a passionate noseguard with an IQ of 84, you can do well. If you want to play QB and your IQ is 84, you will just not understand some things which are necessary, making success very challenging. But it's still football, so average guys (or slightly below) like Bradshaw and Marino can master the basics of their job. Those guys are also helped by their superior athletic ability for the position. A dumb QB with marginal athletic ability would have no chance.
It's all pretty straightforward and scientific--excellent for slotting people into undertakings for which they have a good chance at success.

Jackson with a 13 is not good...

Originally posted by xcfan:

The wonderlich is actually a good, unbiased, well thought out and scientific test of the basic depth of one's practical thinking ability. Good for determining one's options in training and education. You'd be a good engineer, and you'd be a good car mechanic, and you'd be a good beer truck driver. That kind of thing.
Not all that relevant to football except for quarterback, where it can get a bit complex and you would not want a measured moron trying to master the position.
An IQ in the 90's is likely the minimum for learning the QB position thoroughly.
It's pretty well documented that borderline mental retarded players have done well at other positions.
Most football is about hard work and motivation, so if you are a passionate noseguard with an IQ of 84, you can do well. If you want to play QB and your IQ is 84, you will just not understand some things which are necessary, making success very challenging. But it's still football, so average guys (or slightly below) like Bradshaw and Marino can master the basics of their job. Those guys are also helped by their superior athletic ability for the position. A dumb QB with marginal athletic ability would have no chance.
It's all pretty straightforward and scientific--excellent for slotting people into undertakings for which they have a good chance at success.

I know people who did awful on the LSAT but became great lawyers. Womderlic means next to nothing.

I have posted the current starting QBs' Wonderlic scores in the Josh Allen post. The lowest active starting QB in Wonderlic testing is Watson at 20. A 13 score is really microscopic, and it may confirm the rumor that Jackson struggled at the white board at the combine.

Sunshine Gabbert scored 42, Dan Marino scored 16
It doesn't seem to translate to on field success or failure at all.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Sunshine Gabbert scored 42, Dan Marino scored 16
It doesn't seem to translate to on field success or failure at all.

Using extremes to make a point?

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Sunshine Gabbert scored 42, Dan Marino scored 16
It doesn't seem to translate to on field success or failure at all.

Using extremes to make a point?

http://wonderlictestsample.com/nfl-wonderlic-scores/

Bradshaw scored a 13, Fitzpatrick and George McElroy are the highest scoring QBs of all time.

Is there any evidence that points to the Wonderlic accurately predicting success? I don't see it.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Sunshine Gabbert scored 42, Dan Marino scored 16
It doesn't seem to translate to on field success or failure at all.

Using extremes to make a point?

http://wonderlictestsample.com/nfl-wonderlic-scores/

Bradshaw scored a 13, Fitzpatrick and George McElroy are the highest scoring QBs of all time.

Is there any evidence that points to the Wonderlic accurately predicting success? I don't see it.

Maybe look at the QB's actually playing today and see where the successful ones are scoring on avg.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Sunshine Gabbert scored 42, Dan Marino scored 16
It doesn't seem to translate to on field success or failure at all.

Using extremes to make a point?

http://wonderlictestsample.com/nfl-wonderlic-scores/

Bradshaw scored a 13, Fitzpatrick and George McElroy are the highest scoring QBs of all time.

Is there any evidence that points to the Wonderlic accurately predicting success? I don't see it.

Maybe look at the QB's actually playing today and see where the successful ones are scoring on avg.

Well the lowest at 20 is Watson. Out of starters I think. He came in and tore defenses apart. He also tore it up in college against some pretty good defenses.

Can anyone find a stat of 20 & below QBs becoming successful?