Anonymous team's preliminary draft board | Page 3

FL9er · 2018-03-27T08:56:38-07:00

1 - Sam Darnold/QB/USC 2 - Josh Allen/QB/Wyoming 3 - Josh Rosen/QB/UCLA 4 - Bradley Chubb/DL/North Carolina State 5 - Saquon Barkley/RB/Penn State 6 - Quenton Nelson/G/Notre Dame 7 - Minkah Fitzpatrick/DB/Alabama 8 - Denzel Ward/CB/Ohio State 9 - Tremaine Edmunds/LB/Virginia Tech 10 - Roquan Smith/LB/Georgia 11 - Baker Mayfield/QB/Oklahoma 12 - Derwin James/S/Florida State 13 - Vita Vea/DL/Washington 14 - Leighton Vander Esch/LB/Boise State 15 - Calvin Ridley/WR/Alabama http://draftanalyst.com/draft-news-notes-look-one-teams-top-15

Mar 27, 2018 at 9:35 PM

#31

Draftology
Veteran
Posts: 1,168

Why do we think this is real? Why would a team ever release this info?

Mar 27, 2018 at 9:44 PM

#32

GhostOfBaalke
Veteran
Posts: 6,115

Originally posted by Draftology:
Why do we think this is real? Why would a team ever release this info?

Maybe they like josh Rosen and want his stock to drop

Mar 27, 2018 at 9:47 PM

#33

49erBigMac
Veteran
Posts: 8,054

Originally posted by Draftology:
Why do we think this is real? Why would a team ever release this info?

I wouldn't have thought the writer would lie. Any teams with a low first round pick, or maybe one without one and no wish to trade up, might do this just to help the writer out.

Mar 27, 2018 at 9:55 PM

#34

RishikeshA
Veteran
Posts: 12,720

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Josh Allen's upside is off the charts. He's 6'5" 237 lbs. with a rocket for an arm. He may end up being the best of all the QB's in the long term. He is wildly inconsistent, makes some bad mistakes and has not proven he is consistent. But there is no doubt his upside is absolutely huge. He can do some things the other QB's can't do. His arm strength is the best of the group as is his size, height, stature and frame. You can't teach some of things he has.

Just on physical talent Allen is the best QB in the draft. His pro day showed off his arm strength. Is he a finished product, no way. Ideally he'll need a QB savvy coach and a backup role for a year in order to learn the game.

Mar 27, 2018 at 10:00 PM

#35

GhostOfBaalke
Veteran
Posts: 6,115

Does anyone have examples of success stories of raw QBs with accuracy issues? But a rocket arm that got them drafted.

Overwhelmingly most are fail stories. And im struggling to think of one that worked out fine

Mar 27, 2018 at 10:13 PM

#36

est1985
Veteran
Posts: 1,446

Originally posted by lamontb:
How do we know this is really any teams big board?

This

Mar 27, 2018 at 10:42 PM

#37

49ers808
Veteran
Posts: 16,681

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Josh Allen the 2nd best player in the draft?!

Josh Allen's upside is off the charts. He's 6'5" 237 lbs. with a rocket for an arm. He may end up being the best of all the QB's in the long term. He is wildly inconsistent, makes some bad mistakes and has not proven he is consistent. But there is no doubt his upside is absolutely huge. He can do some things the other QB's can't do. His arm strength is the best of the group as is his size, height, stature and frame. You can't teach some of things he has.

We talking about best player in the draft man. Not whose getting selected where. His upside is there for sure. But he is not the 2nd best player in the draft and not even close. If you think so that's fine, entitled to your opinion and so am I and I wholeheartedly disagree
this thread is someone's draft board, not best players in the draft. big difference

It is someone's draft board and it also says it's their TOP 15 players in the draft.
yes Their top 15, not the top 15

isn't that what I said, "their top 15" which means they think he's the 2nd best player in the draft?
no, Thats the top need they need to fill

if we both had teams.. our draft boards would be different do to what needs we have to fill.

You're right on that one, our boards would be VERY different. I would base my board on Best Player Available and never base it on needs.

Mar 28, 2018 at 6:11 AM

#38

miked1978
Veteran
Posts: 12,608

Doesn't look that bad to me to be honest. Not sure why some people question it. QBs have always been overvalued and will continue to be as they are the most vital position in all of football. I'm sure the Browns, Giants, Jets, Bills, Broncos, Cardinals draft boards are very similar to this one.

Mar 28, 2018 at 7:16 AM

#39

a49erfan77
Veteran
Posts: 5,086

Saw where someone put out a clubs so-called top 15. Please don't believe. Teams have not done final boards. What they have done is preliminary by position not best- to-worst. Scouts aren't about to give their clubs "real board" out. Many don't know it
— Greg Gabriel (@greggabe) March 26, 2018

Clubs will begin meeting after Easter to put together their final boards. That's when players are assigned final grades and ranking on draft board. Grades now are strictly preliminary
— Greg Gabriel (@greggabe) March 19, 2018

[ Edited by a49erfan77 on Mar 28, 2018 at 7:17 AM ]

Mar 28, 2018 at 9:02 AM

#40

LifelongNiner
Veteran
Posts: 24,755

Originally posted by Buchy:
I don't get why some people can't grasp positional value. This is a team that need a a QB, it doesn't mean that those guys are the best players in the draft, it means there's a premium on the position.

Barkley is easily the best player in the draft, but the value of the running back position is incredibly low because it's possible to get production from later round picks.

That's not how a board is supposed to work from my understanding however. You rank based on talent, so that when talent and rank don't match, you caneed determine whether to move up, down, or stay put. Of course the other teams drafting near you can affect strategy as well, but there is no way the QBs should be at the top of anyone's board.

Mar 28, 2018 at 7:16 PM

#41

The411
Veteran
Posts: 248

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
I agree with you. You reach - you reach for a franchise QB. Everyone understands this. They often don't pan out, but if they do you are set for a dozen or so years of competitive football. I am not high on Fitzpatrick either. I'd rather have James.

Why reach for a statistical outlier? He has amazing arm strength but poor arm talent.

Mar 28, 2018 at 7:23 PM

#42

Phoenix49ers
Veteran
Posts: 132,328

Originally posted by a49erfan77:

Saw where someone put out a clubs so-called top 15. Please don't believe. Teams have not done final boards. What they have done is preliminary by position not best- to-worst. Scouts aren't about to give their clubs "real board" out. Many don't know it
— Greg Gabriel (@greggabe) March 26, 2018

Clubs will begin meeting after Easter to put together their final boards. That's when players are assigned final grades and ranking on draft board. Grades now are strictly preliminary
— Greg Gabriel (@greggabe) March 19, 2018

This. Teams don't really sit down to cram and finalize their boards until a couple of weeks before the draft.