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MadDog49er · 2018-03-09T08:27:24-08:00

The combine has come and gone, and now we are in full swing with campus Pro Day workouts. It is an exciting time for young men as they try to impress scouts, coaches and GMs. This is my first installment of my projected draft board. It will increase to 256 by the end of this month when I drop a full draft. This board is NOT a mock draft since there will be a million trades that change teams draft positioning and player needs. It is a projection of where I think the player will be drafted, a ballpark estimate. Ex: I have Josh Allen going at #1 and Sam Darnold going at #4. I project a trade up by some team to pick Darnold. Of course, the closer to the number one pick, the more it looks like a mock draft. Will Roquan Smith go to the Niners at 9? I am not sure, but I think he is going somewhere in that area. This is also NOT a best player board. I will post my best board in the next few weeks. As always, I will do some magic tricks with my Excel spreadsheets numbers, players at the wrong school, positional errors, and spelling errors. If you see Jash Rosens, LB from Arkansas, I have had worse moments. Let me know where I goofed. As always, I will provide a rationale of why I have some player projected way earlier than expected and why some seem way lower than expected. I am sure Kolton Miller and Shaq Griffin will raise eyebrows. Would love to hear your thoughts as well- MD 2018 NFL Draft Big Board Player School Position 1 Josh Allen Wyoming QB 2 Saquon Barkley Penn St RB 3 Bradley Chubb NC State DE 4 Sam Darnold USC QB 5 Josh Rosen UCLA QB 6 Baker Mayfield Oklahoma QB 7 Minkah Fitzpatrick Alabama CB 8 Quenton Nelson Notre Dame G 9 Roquan Smith Georgia LB 10 Tremaine Edmunds Virginia Tech LB 11 Vita Vea Washington DT 12 Marcus Davenport Texas San Antonio DE 13 Da'Ron Payne Alabama DT 14 Denzel Ward Ohio St. CB 15 Derwin James Florida St S 16 Leighton Vander Esch Boise St LB 17 Courtland Sutton SMU WR 18 Josh Jackson Iowa CB 19 Harold Landry Boston College LB 20 Calvin Ridley Alabama WR 21 Isaiah Wynn Georgia G 22 Lamar Jackson Louisville QB 23 Jaire Alexander Louisville CB 24 DJ Moore Maryland WR 25 Mike Hughes Central Florida CB 26 Isaiah Oliver Colorado CB 27 Lorenzo Carter Georgia LB 28 Derrius Guice LSU RB 29 Maurice Hurst Michigan DT 30 Will Hernandez UTEP G 31 Connor Williams Texas G 32 Taven Bryan Florida DT 33 Mason Rudolph Oklahoma St QB 34 Mike McGlinchey Notre Dame OT 35 Braden Smith Auburn G 36 Rashaan Evans Alabama LB 37 James Daniels Iowa C 38 Ronald Jones II USC RB 39 Kolton Miller UCLA OT 40 Justin Reid Stanford S 41 Sam Hubbard Ohio St. DE 42 Christian Kirk Texas A&M WR 43 Orlando Brown Oklahoma OT 44 James Washington Oklahoma St WR 45 Josh Sweat Florida St DE 46 DJ Chark LSU WR 47 Sony Michel Georgia RB 48 Equanimeous St. Brown Notre Dame WR 49 Billy Price Ohio St. C 50 Nick Chubb Georgia RB 51 Martinas Rankin Mississippi St OT 52 Tyrell Crosby Oregon OT 53 Carlton Davis Auburn CB 54 Hayden Hurst South Carolina TE 55 Harrison Phillips Stanford DT 56 Frank Ragnow Arkansas C 57 Kerryon Johnson Auburn RB 58 Da'Shawn Hand Alabama DT 59 Uchenna Nwosu USC LB 60 Anthony Averett Alabama CB 61 Duke Ejiofor Wake Forest DE 62 Mike Gesicki Penn St TE 63 Anthony Miller Memphis WR 64 Tony Brown Alabama CB 65 Brian O'Neill Pittsburgh OT 66 Mark Andrews Oklahoma TE 67 Malik Jefferson Texas LB 68 Austin Corbett Nevada OG 69 Nathan Shepherd Fort Hays St DT 70 Tim Settle Virginia Tech DT 71 Ronnie Harrison Alabama S 72 Donte Jackson LSU CB 73 Raashan Gaulden Tennessee CB 74 Rasheem Green USC DE 75 Chukwuma Okorafor Western Michigan OT 76 Kevin Tolliver LSU CB 77 Dallas Goedert South Dakota St TE 78 Marcus Allen Penn St S 79 Rashaad Penny San Diego St RB 80 Dante Pettis Washington WR 81 BJ Hill NC State DT 82 Josey Jewell Iowa LB 83 DaeSean Hamilton Penn St WR 84 Royce Freeman Oregon RB 85 Justin Jones NC State DT 86 Michael Gallup Colorado St WR 87 Arden Key LSU LB 88 Darius Leonard South Carolina St LB 89 Brandon Parker North Carolina A&T OT 90 Wyatt Teller Virginia Tech G 91 RJ McIntosh Miami DT 92 Duke Dawson Florida CB 93 Kyzir White West Virginia S 94 Terrell Edmunds Virginia Tech S 95 Micah Kiser Virginia LB 96 Kyle Lauletta Richmond QB 97 Nyheim Hines NC State RB 98 Jerome Baker Ohio St. LB 99 Ogbonnia Okoronkwo Oklahoma LB 100 John Kelly Tennessee RB 101 Shaquem Griffin Central Florida LB 102 Godwin Igwebuike Northwestern S 103 Ian Thomas Indiana TE 104 Jamarco Jones Ohio St. OT 105 Trenton Thompson Georgia DT 106 Jessie Bates Wake Forest S 107 DeShon Elliott Texas S 108 Geron Christian Louisville OT 109 Avonte Maddox Pittsburgh CB 110 Fred Warner BYU LB 111 Kentavius Street NC State DE 112 Greg Senat Wagner OT 113 Bilal Nichols Delaware DT 114 Alex Cappa Humboldt St OT 115 Jaylen Samuels NC State RB 116 Dane Cruikshank Arizona CB 117 Breeland Speaks Mississippi DE/DT 118 Derrick Nnadi Florida St DT 119 TreQuan Smith Central Florida WR 120 Quenton Meeks Stanford CB 121 Chad Thomas Miami DE 122 Mark Walton Miami RB 123 Dylan Cantrell Texas Tech WR 124 Dorian O'Daniel Clemson LB 125 Kendrick Norton Miami DT 126 Deadrin Senat South Florida DT 127 Quin Blanding Virginia S 128 Folorunso Fatukasi Connecticut DT 129 Kemoko Turay Rutgers DE/OLB 130 Will Clapp LSU C 131 Kalen Ballage Arizona St RB 132 Marcell Ateman Oklahoma St WR 133 Mason Cole Michigan C/G 134 Josh Adams Notre Dame RB 135 Jeff Holland Auburn LB 136 Tyquan Lewis Ohio St. DE/DT 137 Will Richardson NC State OT 138 Tavarus McFadden Florida St CB 139 Andrew Brown Virginia DT 140 MJ Stewart North Carolina CB 141 Isaac Yiadom Boston College CB 142 Marquis Haynes Mississippi LB 143 Jordan Whitehead Pittsburgh S 144 Dorance Armstrong, Jr. Kansas LB 145 Mike White Western Kentucky QB 146 Simmie Cobbs, Jr. Indiana WR 147 Danny Johnson Southern CB 148 Deon Cain Clemson WR 149 Genard Avery Memphis LB 150 Azeem Victor Washington LB

Mar 19, 2018 at 2:04 PM

#121

NCommand
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MD, do you ever feel like a $2 whore each year after these releases? LOL.

Love and rely on your work. Thank you.

Mar 19, 2018 at 2:08 PM

#122

jgarf08
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Thanks MD, great work. Just curious, your thoughts on Josh Allen?

Agree 100% with you on fitzpatrick, just not sure where he translates best. I think he can play any spot on any defense, just not sure what spot would get the most out of his potential.

Mar 19, 2018 at 4:12 PM

#123

Giedi
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Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by Mertonschickendance:
What additional picks would get from moving 9 to 12 or 15?

Teams use the Draft Trade Chart as a guideline for the numeric value of each pick and selection, although they are not bound to follow it. If you stick with the chart, trading down from 9 to 12 would net you that team's 4th rounder. It is not much compensation. Moving from 9 to 15 will get you their third rounder, but you'd have to throw in a 5th rounder in addition to the number 9 overall.

I do think the Niners could be a potential trade partner for a team desperate to move up and snag a QB in the top 10 picks. I just think all four of the top guys will be gone before the 9th overall. I see them picked at 1,4,5,and 6.

That sure feels like how it is going to go.

#7 and #8 are going to be draft nail biters if we stay at #9.

Mar 19, 2018 at 11:25 PM

#124

Ronnie49Lott
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I know OL and Edge are priorities but I hope the Niners can also get a tall WR for the red zone. Anyone else besides St. Brown or Sutton early or Ateman late that would fill that need? TIA

Mar 20, 2018 at 12:17 AM

#125

SmokeCrabtrees
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Maddog Wassup with Chark.

Mar 20, 2018 at 1:26 AM

#126

MadDog49er
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Originally posted by GoldenJoe:

Originally posted by MadDog49er:

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Hey Mad... We love you, dog! Doesn't matter what % you get right etc. You and AB are the two legends along with thl and johnnydel for helping with the real work

It's witchcraft. So hard to hit at a high level. Humbling every year.

MD great work and thanks for the responses. How do you see the QBs going vs. how you have them rated? I know you're in Browns country and tend to be keyed into their preferences/tendencies, if they stay at 4, who do you think they're targeting?

I am saving my full review of QBs for last (i've got watch every snap to feel good about my view), but as of now, I'd rank them: Mayfield, Darnold, Rosen, Allen. We'll see if that sticks after watch the boys throw.

I do think the Browns are targeting Allen at 1. I think 4 is traded to a team moving up for a QB. King's ransom.

Mar 20, 2018 at 1:28 AM

#127

MadDog49er
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Originally posted by NCommand:
MD, do you ever feel like a $2 whore each year after these releases? LOL.

Love and rely on your work. Thank you.

Nah, just one man's opinion. Time will tell if I did i right, or if I was sloppy and missed something.

Mar 20, 2018 at 1:31 AM

#128

MadDog49er
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Originally posted by jgarf08:
Thanks MD, great work. Just curious, your thoughts on Josh Allen?

Agree 100% with you on fitzpatrick, just not sure where he translates best. I think he can play any spot on any defense, just not sure what spot would get the most out of his potential.

As we all know, Allen has a gigantic arm. He can make throws no one else can in the NFL. And, I do think he will be a success. Inconsistency is always his big issue. Not sure if better footwork, and other mechanics can fix that. Smart kid, loves football. Good head on his shoulders. Has a lot of good things going on. Hoping he can break the curse of the Browns.

Mar 20, 2018 at 1:33 AM

#129

MadDog49er
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Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by MadDog49er:

Originally posted by Mertonschickendance:
What additional picks would get from moving 9 to 12 or 15?

Teams use the Draft Trade Chart as a guideline for the numeric value of each pick and selection, although they are not bound to follow it. If you stick with the chart, trading down from 9 to 12 would net you that team's 4th rounder. It is not much compensation. Moving from 9 to 15 will get you their third rounder, but you'd have to throw in a 5th rounder in addition to the number 9 overall.

I do think the Niners could be a potential trade partner for a team desperate to move up and snag a QB in the top 10 picks. I just think all four of the top guys will be gone before the 9th overall. I see them picked at 1,4,5,and 6.

That sure feels like how it is going to go. #7 and #8 are going to be draft nail biters if we stay at #9.

History shows that picks 7-9 usually has a wildcard that becomes the draft's first shocker. Not sure that will happen with the number of QBs being picked early this year.

Mar 20, 2018 at 1:38 AM

#130

MadDog49er
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Originally posted by Ronnie49Lott:
I know OL and Edge are priorities but I hope the Niners can also get a tall WR for the red zone. Anyone else besides St. Brown or Sutton early or Ateman late that would fill that need? TIA

I love Michael Gallup as a value WR. Been watching him a lot lately against some top competition (Isaiah Oliver of Colorado, the Alabama secondary, etc.). He has a really strong overall game. When the Rams were losing badly against Alabama this year, he ran all the way back to make a tackle on a Bama DB before he scored. Total heart. No diva!

I also think Cedrick Wilson is good value later in the draft.

Mar 20, 2018 at 1:41 AM

#131

MadDog49er
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Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Maddog Wassup with Chark.

He's a one trick pony. The dude can get deep better than anyone in this draft class. He's going to pop some big ones in the NFL. I just don't see enough underneath to give me comfort in drafting him early. The guys who come in and shine are great route runners. Think Cooper Kupp when evaluating.

Mar 20, 2018 at 7:03 AM

#132

Ernst82
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Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Hey MadDog, who is your draft crush this year?
Last year, it was Forrest Lamp, Kareem Hunt, Cooper Kupp, Blair Brown. Some really good college players who grind out every ounce of their energy on the field.

This year it is The guard class of 2018. So many really great players. Q. Nelson, C. Williams, Wynn, W. Hernandez, B. Smith, F. Ragnow (if he slid over from center). This is the best guard draft class in my 30+ years of doing this. All of these guys are inside my top 30 best overall players. We could see four of these guys taken before the first OT.

Some of the guys who bust it on the field, and would love to go to war with: Nwosu, Jewell, M. Cole, S. Moore. I like these dudes a lot. Give me some guys who love football.

You had me thinking we traded up for Lamp last year. I was sold on him and not happy about Foster. I warmed up to it throughout the year but I guess we will wait and see. Now we have a troublemaker instead of an ACL patient.

Mar 20, 2018 at 7:35 AM

#133

riverrunzthruit
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6 QBs in first round, this is going to be like the QB Class of 1983 with Elway, Kelly, Marino, Blackledge etc.

Mar 20, 2018 at 9:18 AM

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dtg_9er
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Originally posted by Ernst82:
You had me thinking we traded up for Lamp last year. I was sold on him and not happy about Foster. I warmed up to it throughout the year but I guess we will wait and see. Now we have a troublemaker instead of an ACL patient.

So far, Foster seems to be more knot head than thug.

Mar 20, 2018 at 9:25 AM

#135

Giedi
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Originally posted by MadDog49er:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by MadDog49er:

Originally posted by Mertonschickendance:
What additional picks would get from moving 9 to 12 or 15?

Teams use the Draft Trade Chart as a guideline for the numeric value of each pick and selection, although they are not bound to follow it. If you stick with the chart, trading down from 9 to 12 would net you that team's 4th rounder. It is not much compensation. Moving from 9 to 15 will get you their third rounder, but you'd have to throw in a 5th rounder in addition to the number 9 overall.

I do think the Niners could be a potential trade partner for a team desperate to move up and snag a QB in the top 10 picks. I just think all four of the top guys will be gone before the 9th overall. I see them picked at 1,4,5,and 6.

That sure feels like how it is going to go. #7 and #8 are going to be draft nail biters if we stay at #9.

History shows that picks 7-9 usually has a wildcard that becomes the draft's first shocker. Not sure that will happen with the number of QBs being picked early this year.

I remember Aaron Roger's just dropping after we drafted Alex, I'm hoping something like that happens to us from a defensive standpoint. I.e. a guy like Chubb somehow drops to us because of whatever reason. Last year we dropped one spot and got extra picks, I'm betting that may happen if Landry isn't there. Weak pass rush class says maybe we trade out of the first round all together if the edge rusher we like isn't there. We shall see.