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Jan 18, 2018 at 9:28 PM
- Cisco0623
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I don't care how tall or short a guy is as log as he can play. Sounds like this kids athleticism more than makes up for any height issues.
Jan 18, 2018 at 10:12 PM
- Heroism
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Similar to what he'd do here. Cover 3. Bail to third and read the QB's eyes through the 1(outside) and 2(inside) receivers. Ward plays the two vertical routes evenly so that he can contest the #2 receiver down the seam. He read the QB the whole way. He missed the ball by a hair, but the most important thing here is the intelligence. Dude is a smart DB. This is the type of s**t that Rashard Robinson failed at and got him shipped out of town. Hate to be brash, but he was too dumb to play in this scheme. Dude was oblivious when it came to this type of stuff.
[ Edited by Heroism on Jan 18, 2018 at 10:16 PM ]
Jan 18, 2018 at 11:24 PM
- WildBill
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Obviously the all star games and combine sink or rocket a player up the board. Wonder how this guy will pair out. Wonder how low we could go and he still be available.
Jan 18, 2018 at 11:26 PM
- WildBill
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Originally posted by Heroism:
Similar to what he'd do here. Cover 3. Bail to third and read the QB's eyes through the 1(outside) and 2(inside) receivers. Ward plays the two vertical routes evenly so that he can contest the #2 receiver down the seam. He read the QB the whole way. He missed the ball by a hair, but the most important thing here is the intelligence. Dude is a smart DB. This is the type of s**t that Rashard Robinson failed at and got him shipped out of town. Hate to be brash, but he was too dumb to play in this scheme. Dude was oblivious when it came to this type of stuff.
Whats also good about this is he is still in position to make the play and has the speed to possibly tackle if needed
Jan 19, 2018 at 6:56 AM
- illinois9er
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Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:Lol at WR more of a need than CB.
This x100!
Jan 19, 2018 at 7:04 AM
- gold49er2183
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We learned last draft lynch and peters have physicality very high on the list of qualities they look for.
Jan 19, 2018 at 8:20 AM
- Joecool
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Originally posted by gold49er2183:
We learned last draft lynch and peters have physicality very high on the list of qualities they look for.
How does that explain Witherspoon? To me, for a CB, physicality is at the bottom of the list. Give me a guy with these traits:
- Smart
- Fluid
- Fast
- Quick
- Ball Skills
- Aggressive
[ Edited by Joecool on Jan 19, 2018 at 8:20 AM ]
Jan 19, 2018 at 10:57 AM
- genus49
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Originally posted by Joecool:
How does that explain Witherspoon? To me, for a CB, physicality is at the bottom of the list. Give me a guy with these traits:
- Smart
- Fluid
- Fast
- Quick
- Ball Skills
- Aggressive
I agree...you don't want someone afraid of contact out there but corners #1 priority is to stop the passing game. Ideally you want a guy who checks all the boxes but if a kid can cover and play smart football and get himself into position to make plays...even if they suck at tackling they can at least get in the way and have others make plays.
Jan 19, 2018 at 11:04 AM
- Alfienator
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Originally posted by Heroism:Similar to what he'd do here. Cover 3. Bail to third and read the QB's eyes through the 1(outside) and 2(inside) receivers. Ward plays the two vertical routes evenly so that he can contest the #2 receiver down the seam. He read the QB the whole way. He missed the ball by a hair, but the most important thing here is the intelligence. Dude is a smart DB. This is the type of s**t that Rashard Robinson failed at and got him shipped out of town. Hate to be brash, but he was too dumb to play in this scheme. Dude was oblivious when it came to this type of stuff.
If he was only taller but definitely a baller.
Jan 19, 2018 at 7:15 PM
- genus49
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Different time/era but Darrell Green wasn't exactly big and was a baller.
Jan 19, 2018 at 7:45 PM
- Jcool
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Originally posted by NinerGM:
But the $50,000 question is can a 5'10 receiver "cover" a 6'3 or 6'4 NFL receiver successful as a #9 overall pick. You're not going to take a CB that high and have him only play dime or slot.
Posted this a few pages back:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Chris Harris (Denver) was 5'10", 194lbs when he was coming out. He made the All-Rookie team and has been on the All-Pro team 3 times.
Casey Hayward (Chargers) is 5'11", 191lbs. He was just named 2nd team All-Pro & has made the Pro Bowl 2 times.
Jan 19, 2018 at 8:19 PM
- TheXFactor
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Originally posted by genus49:Different time/era but Darrell Green wasn't exactly big and was a baller.
Yes he was. Great guy too!
Feb 6, 2018 at 12:28 PM
- Heroism
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He good.
Just wrote an OAK draft prospect/ FA targets article for @TheAthleticSF . Will be up tomorrow morning.
— Ted Nguyen (@FB_FilmAnalysis) February 6, 2018
Denzel Ward plays much bigger than his size (5'10).
vs. Mead (6'5)
Ward pins him to the sideline and does an excellent job playing out-of-phase. Gets arm right as ball comes. pic.twitter.com/uYZw4Z0dF2
Feb 6, 2018 at 12:31 PM
- gold49digger
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I think he would be great but I wonder if he is a good fit to be an outside corner in our scheme. would be a great slot corner tho.
Feb 6, 2018 at 12:36 PM
- Heroism
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Originally posted by gold49digger:
I think he would be great but I wonder if he is a good fit to be an outside corner in our scheme. would be a great slot corner tho.
Draftniks say he's got pretty long arms and weighs nearly 200 pounds. If those checkout, he'll be fine outside, especially if Saleh wants to mix things up this year and dial up more man.
The real question is are they willing to deviate from the Frankenstein archetype.
[ Edited by Heroism on Feb 6, 2018 at 12:57 PM ]