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Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Heroism:
I'd be stunned if the 49ers wanted Denzel Ward over Joshua Jackson. Plays like this where Jackson executes the exact techniques he'd do with the 49ers will have Saleh salivating. The dude is a very smart cornerback. Plays the 1 and 2 WR route combo through the QB's eyes and jumps the underneath route. These are the type of high-football-IQ plays that made Sherman great.


I'd love Roquan Smith or Quenton Nelson but if we can't secure Kyle Fuller or Trumaine Johnson, this would be the way to go esp. with a small trade back.

We're 6th in run defense WITH Brock Coyle and he'd be swapped out for Malcolm Smith this year so adding a young premier CB to Ahkello Witherspoon would be critical.

Run D is based on total yards...puts us at 22nd.

Which tells you nothing. YPC is a better metric for understanding their effectiveness in stopping the run WHEN teams decide to run (where that's once a game or 40 times a game).
[ Edited by NCommand on Jan 16, 2018 at 9:18 AM ]
Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
I believe Shanahan noted the need for at least one tall receiver in regards to red zone scoring.

Bryce Love, RB, Stanford staying in school. Per nfl.com
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Heroism:
I'd be stunned if the 49ers wanted Denzel Ward over Joshua Jackson. Plays like this where Jackson executes the exact techniques he'd do with the 49ers will have Saleh salivating. The dude is a very smart cornerback. Plays the 1 and 2 WR route combo through the QB's eyes and jumps the underneath route. These are the type of high-football-IQ plays that made Sherman great.


I'd love Roquan Smith or Quenton Nelson but if we can't secure Kyle Fuller or Trumaine Johnson, this would be the way to go esp. with a small trade back.

We're 6th in run defense WITH Brock Coyle and he'd be swapped out for Malcolm Smith this year so adding a young premier CB to Ahkello Witherspoon would be critical.

Run D is based on total yards...puts us at 22nd.

Which tells you nothing. YPC is a better metric for understanding their effectiveness in stopping the run WHEN teams decide to run (where that's once a game or 40 times a game).

it was 6th in run D WHEN Brock Coyle became the starter. as in he knew the scheme and was more effective communicator/coordinator of the scheme....
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Heroism:
I'd be stunned if the 49ers wanted Denzel Ward over Joshua Jackson. Plays like this where Jackson executes the exact techniques he'd do with the 49ers will have Saleh salivating. The dude is a very smart cornerback. Plays the 1 and 2 WR route combo through the QB's eyes and jumps the underneath route. These are the type of high-football-IQ plays that made Sherman great.


I'd love Roquan Smith or Quenton Nelson but if we can't secure Kyle Fuller or Trumaine Johnson, this would be the way to go esp. with a small trade back.

We're 6th in run defense WITH Brock Coyle and he'd be swapped out for Malcolm Smith this year so adding a young premier CB to Ahkello Witherspoon would be critical.

Run D is based on total yards...puts us at 22nd.

Which tells you nothing. YPC is a better metric for understanding their effectiveness in stopping the run WHEN teams decide to run (where that's once a game or 40 times a game).

By that logic the Browns had the #2 ranked run D....
Originally posted by NCommand:
Thanks for this Hero. I wonder how this applies to our current roster, with separators like Goodwin, Taylor and Garcon.

He obviously was a big fan of Julio but was also instrumental in bringing in Sanu who I was a big fan of. Kittle came on but isn't the box-out, jump-ball type of RZ threat. John Lynch has been looking for that all year. And in the WCO, it's very important to have that ZWR to compliment the other core pieces. Rice, Taylor, Owens, etc. were some of the bigger WR's during that time as needed for quick slants and more.

But overall, I agree in that if we don't get that bigger bodied ZWR, Kyle will probably add another separator like this and make life hell for DB's between the 20's by spreading them out.

Thoughts?

Don't you think Jimmy Graham would be an ideal fit for a red zone weapon? Great ability to box out defenders.
Originally posted by sfout:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Heroism:
I'd be stunned if the 49ers wanted Denzel Ward over Joshua Jackson. Plays like this where Jackson executes the exact techniques he'd do with the 49ers will have Saleh salivating. The dude is a very smart cornerback. Plays the 1 and 2 WR route combo through the QB's eyes and jumps the underneath route. These are the type of high-football-IQ plays that made Sherman great.


I'd love Roquan Smith or Quenton Nelson but if we can't secure Kyle Fuller or Trumaine Johnson, this would be the way to go esp. with a small trade back.

We're 6th in run defense WITH Brock Coyle and he'd be swapped out for Malcolm Smith this year so adding a young premier CB to Ahkello Witherspoon would be critical.

Run D is based on total yards...puts us at 22nd.

Which tells you nothing. YPC is a better metric for understanding their effectiveness in stopping the run WHEN teams decide to run (where that's once a game or 40 times a game).

it was 6th in run D WHEN Brock Coyle became the starter. as in he knew the scheme and was more effective communicator/coordinator of the scheme....

More likely it was because Jimmy G started playing around the same time and our time in possession stats went from well in the negative to well in the positive, not to mention other teams were forced to pass it more in those games as we put them under scoreboard pressure.
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Originally posted by Heroism:

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http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/01/16/bryce-love-returning-to-stanford-for-senior-season/

scratch off Bryce Love from your mock drafts

and

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/01/15/clemson-dt-christian-wilkins-announces-return-for-senior-season/
Originally posted by sfout:
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/01/16/bryce-love-returning-to-stanford-for-senior-season/

scratch off Bryce Love from your mock drafts

and

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/01/15/clemson-dt-christian-wilkins-announces-return-for-senior-season/

So dumb oh well, wasn't a fan of love and Wilkins wasn't a option for us....sucks cause that's less talent in the draft overall.
Originally posted by sfout:
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/01/16/bryce-love-returning-to-stanford-for-senior-season/

scratch off Bryce Love from your mock drafts

and

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/01/15/clemson-dt-christian-wilkins-announces-return-for-senior-season/

Love is smart. He knows he's going to be hurt 90% of his professional career so he is sparing the rest of the league a constant headache.
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Browns are drafting a quarterback......again
The Browns will do what the Browns will do...that is, take yet another QB who may/may not pan out. I'm not nearly as high on Allen as some seem to be...that's ok, he'll have to show much more consistency making sound reads & decisions, then throwing the ball accurately to make a believer out of me. Personally, I think they should trade the #1 pick to get another opportunity to improve their roster in a meaningful way. Obviously they'd trade with a team not enamored with Allen, if he's the guy they really want. There's some risk involved trading down, but only if you don't make all your extra picks really count.

As for the Niners, I think they'll take either Fitzpatrick, Bradley Chubb or possibly Arden Key. It's always tempting to take a guy like Nelson, but since they've already transformed Garnett's body for Shanahan's offense, I'd say it's pretty unlikely they'd want to do it again with Nelson. The guy I like is Isaiah Wynn from GA...he's got the quickness in run and pass blocking, plus he's tough as nails. He's probably a 2nd rd pick, outside chance early 3rd rd.
Originally posted by jcs:
By that logic the Browns had the #2 ranked run D....

LOL...touche.
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