Calvin Ridley, WR Alabama

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by wailers15:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by wailers15:

Definitely not a top 10 pick but his brother will be !!

Riley Ridley hasn't done squat for two seasons and Calvin has been producing since his freshaman year. Now all of a sudden after one game Riley is a top 10 pick and Calvin isn't. You gotta be frickin kidding Webzone!!! Smfh

lol easy killer don't wet the paper yet. all i am saying is he's not a top 10 talent in this draft. just given off of the class no. Defense will reign this draft. Yes his bro hasn't done much, but has the tools to be better. and when his brother comes out who knows he may well be a top 10 pick come then. let's see how he does with Fromm. maybe he improves his game. kind of hard to hate on the guy when he turns it up on the biggest stage of his career. plus given the depth the Dawgs have at the WR, & TE spot plus you through in both those RB's...yeah there's some depth constraints there. they did a great job of distributing the ball all around this year.

all i said is i don't see Calvin being a top 10 pick, lol nothing wrong with that. given the talent at D, and the given need...no i don't see him as a top 10 pick. now for his bro, who the fk knows but if that game jump-starts his activity in Athens then watch out. man i watch a ton of SEC foots so i'm not out of the loop.

lol fkn webzone no sht so many of you get your panties in a wad..and do so right quick.

But you're doing exactly what I said, people base things off of one game....ONE GAME. I mean from this one game you basically just anointed Riley Ridley a top 10 pick because he has the tools to be better than his brother......how so? It's pretty much a question mark of how good he runs his routes and gets separation which Calvin has done throughout his whole career. You totally overlooked the fact that Calvin Ridley went through the season with one of the worst SEC passers I've ever seen. Hurts has no business being a QB period with all the running he does.

Panties in a wad. .....at least I don't make crazy assumptions like the one above. lol smfh

Dude NY is well respected around here.. Dont come at him like that cause you're a mod kolohe. Agree to disagree, chill mang

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Originally posted by Kolohe:

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Too many trees smoked today I guess.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
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Too many trees smoked today I guess.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by babarvaart:
you don't need an elite WR to win a SB. Pass rush, G/C & CB are comfortably the biggest needs and I'm sure the 1st rd pick will go on one of those.

This x10000

Just look at all of NE's SB wins and Seattle beating DEN. Who was their elite WR? Golden Tate? lol

We won a couple with Jerry Rice but overall I don't think this offense in general needs a elite WR.

Joe won his first 2 without Jerry...which is my point. We can get an "elite" WR some other time.

Look at what JG accomplished without Garcon...

Fair enough. However, save for O-line which we can attempt to address in free agency, where else would you go on offense right now? I like our receivers and like them a lot more with Garcon, however, thinking longterm and what Kyle can do with a player like Ridley, the elite receiver takes offense to another level. It's the reason why the 49ers of the late 80s/early 90s on offense were out of this world compared to the 49ers of the early 80s. If we lose the coin flip and the Raiders take Smith, Ridley is the way to go. Imagine Kyle Shanahan with a receiver that can get open on his own + Garcon/Goodwin/Taylor. I think we'd have a group that could beat any secondary out there.

The other thing is, offense has been neglected for FAR too long in terms of investing high picks. We also are going to need some cheap receiver talent. Assuming Goodwin builds on his good year, he only has a year left on his deal and it would be nice to have a receiver in place not only to replace but Garcon, but also with starting potential in the event they look to move on from Garcon after 2018 or 2019.

I'm also not going to assume that we just keep it rolling into next season. Now in all honestly, after Smith, on defense, I like Harold Landry, but even though he is talented and fills a HUGE need, I see more plug and play as well as less bust potential from Ridley.

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Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Fair enough. However, save for O-line which we can attempt to address in free agency, where else would you go on offense right now? I like our receivers and like them a lot more with Garcon, however, thinking longterm and what Kyle can do with a player like Ridley, the elite receiver takes offense to another level. It's the reason why the 49ers of the late 80s/early 90s on offense were out of this world compared to the 49ers of the early 80s. If we lose the coin flip and the Raiders take Smith, Ridley is the way to go. Imagine Kyle Shanahan with a receiver that can get open on his own + Garcon/Goodwin/Taylor. I think we'd have a group that could beat any secondary out there.

The other thing is, offense has been neglected for FAR too long in terms of investing high picks. We also are going to need some cheap receiver talent. Assuming Goodwin builds on his good year, he only has a year left on his deal and it would be nice to have a receiver in place not only to replace but Garcon, but also with starting potential in the event they look to move on from Garcon after 2018 or 2019.

I'm also not going to assume that we just keep it rolling into next season. Now in all honestly, after Smith, on defense, I like Harold Landry, but even though he is talented and fills a HUGE need, I see more plug and play as well as less bust potential from Ridley.

Does Ridley give enough extra production that we wouldn't get otherwise? I'm seeing 3 decent WRs already on the team so adding a 4th when you're crying out for oline and pash rush help seems the wrong way to do it. A 10 sack man makes the biggest difference to this team IMO, followed by a G or CB.

If we fill all those in FA than I'm all for BPA.

Originally posted by babarvaart:
Does Ridley give enough extra production that we wouldn't get otherwise? I'm seeing 3 decent WRs already on the team so adding a 4th when you're crying out for oline and pash rush help seems the wrong way to do it. A 10 sack man makes the biggest difference to this team IMO, followed by a G or CB.

If we fill all those in FA than I'm all for BPA.

I doubt all our holes will have permanent fixtures in place post draft. Can Ridley give us extra offensive production ? The answer is yes IMO.

We can and will still improve some of the crucial holes we have and yes taking a WR with out first round pick is a bit of a luxury. I also believe defenses wins championships but if CR is the BPA, I don't see how we could pass. This team is not going to be a legit SB contender next year, more likely a team with a legit shot to make the playoffs. We need to continue to make moves to get better and Ridley would do just that. I think we need one more offseason to get this defense to a Championship caliber level. At the end of the day our pick should be the BPA whether that is Ridley or not. Drafting for needs is a bad strategy IMHO and leads to reaching.

Originally posted by evil:
I doubt all our holes will have permanent fixtures in place post draft. Can Ridley give us extra offensive production ? The answer is yes IMO.

We can and will still improve some of the crucial holes we have and yes taking a WR with out first round pick is a bit of a luxury. I also believe defenses wins championships but if CR is the BPA, I don't see how we could pass. This team is not going to be a legit SB contender next year, more likely a team with a legit shot to make the playoffs. We need to continue to make moves to get better and Ridley would do just that. I think we need one more offseason to get this defense to a Championship caliber level. At the end of the day our pick should be the BPA whether that is Ridley or not. Drafting for needs is a bad strategy IMHO and leads to reaching.

do you pick BPA if it's a QB or DT ? Surely our draft board will be a blend of BPA and need and you would think at 9 or 10 there will be a player who fits both criteria close enough.

I do think Ridley is a very good fit for us, I just feel WR is way down the list of priorities.

Originally posted by babarvaart:

Originally posted by evil:
I doubt all our holes will have permanent fixtures in place post draft. Can Ridley give us extra offensive production ? The answer is yes IMO.

We can and will still improve some of the crucial holes we have and yes taking a WR with out first round pick is a bit of a luxury. I also believe defenses wins championships but if CR is the BPA, I don't see how we could pass. This team is not going to be a legit SB contender next year, more likely a team with a legit shot to make the playoffs. We need to continue to make moves to get better and Ridley would do just that. I think we need one more offseason to get this defense to a Championship caliber level. At the end of the day our pick should be the BPA whether that is Ridley or not. Drafting for needs is a bad strategy IMHO and leads to reaching.

do you pick BPA if it's a QB or DT ? Surely our draft board will be a blend of BPA and need and you would think at 9 or 10 there will be a player who fits both criteria close enough.

I do think Ridley is a very good fit for us, I just feel WR is way down the list of priorities.

I think if we are looking at a very group of guys on our board who we value with the 9th/10th pick and are unsure one will fall to us, we will be making calls in the 24hrs leading up to the draft to gauge what it will take other teams in front of us to move off of their pick and allow us to move up. You also speak to teams behind you trying to gauge who might want to move up. You have to be prepared for every possible scenario that can happen on draft day.

I would not pick a QB or DT if it is BPA there, at that point you hope you can trade up or down otherwise you are left slightly reaching in that scenario. But that is also a worst case scenario.

Originally posted by babarvaart:

do you pick BPA if it's a QB or DT ? Surely our draft board will be a blend of BPA and need and you would think at 9 or 10 there will be a player who fits both criteria close enough.

I do think Ridley is a very good fit for us, I just feel WR is way down the list of priorities.

No, but Evil is right, how much you need a guy is a tie breaker, otherwise pick the best guy for you.

The point you make about QB and DT is valid, however I'd class those as don't needs. You can take people off the board due to your own talent, but that only happens with Jimmy, Buck or Foster for us.

For me we have talent at Safety, so if we were drafting one of those they would have to be significantly better than those around them.

Originally posted by babarvaart:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Fair enough. However, save for O-line which we can attempt to address in free agency, where else would you go on offense right now? I like our receivers and like them a lot more with Garcon, however, thinking longterm and what Kyle can do with a player like Ridley, the elite receiver takes offense to another level. It's the reason why the 49ers of the late 80s/early 90s on offense were out of this world compared to the 49ers of the early 80s. If we lose the coin flip and the Raiders take Smith, Ridley is the way to go. Imagine Kyle Shanahan with a receiver that can get open on his own + Garcon/Goodwin/Taylor. I think we'd have a group that could beat any secondary out there.

The other thing is, offense has been neglected for FAR too long in terms of investing high picks. We also are going to need some cheap receiver talent. Assuming Goodwin builds on his good year, he only has a year left on his deal and it would be nice to have a receiver in place not only to replace but Garcon, but also with starting potential in the event they look to move on from Garcon after 2018 or 2019.

I'm also not going to assume that we just keep it rolling into next season. Now in all honestly, after Smith, on defense, I like Harold Landry, but even though he is talented and fills a HUGE need, I see more plug and play as well as less bust potential from Ridley.

Does Ridley give enough extra production that we wouldn't get otherwise? I'm seeing 3 decent WRs already on the team so adding a 4th when you're crying out for oline and pash rush help seems the wrong way to do it. A 10 sack man makes the biggest difference to this team IMO, followed by a G or CB.

If we fill all those in FA than I'm all for BPA.

We have decent wide receivers, but only one that is truly a game-breaker. We have Pierre Garcon who is 32 years old. He was having a good season, but again, 32 years old. If we lose that coin flip and the Raiders take Smith, I'd be all for this pick. I also would expect us to address O-line and CB in free agency. I also expect teams to take us a lot more seriously next season, defensive coordinators will have an offseason of game planning, and they will add to their defensive personnel. If we simply beef up our O-line, but add nothing else on offense, I wouldn't expect the top-5 production we saw at season's end. Pass rush is the only need I don't see us filling in free agency. Now if Harold Landry dominates at the senior bowl and tears it up at the Combine, then things certainly will change. But right now, if we remain a 9 overall and we get a G, C, and CB in free agency, then I'm looking at Roquon Smith, Calvin Ridley, and Harold Landry, in that order. I want to fill our needs, but I also want impact. Someone that can come in and start immediately because I expect this to be our last top-10 pick for quite some time. When we are talking top-10, it's BPA all the way. No overdrafting.

Originally posted by GhostOfBaalke:

Not worth a top 10 pick

Nice thread full of clips and breakdown on Ridley (scroll down the thread)

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Nice thread full of clips and breakdown on Ridley (scroll down the thread)

Calvin Ridley Thread

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Holy Moses, that's a pretty slant.