Calvin Ridley, WR Alabama

Originally posted by babarvaart:

you don't need an elite WR to win a SB. Pass rush, G/C & CB are comfortably the biggest needs and I'm sure the 1st rd pick will go on one of those.

Totally agree with those being our top needs, I'm hoping we can address the interior O line in FA so we can draft Josh Jackson or possibly an EDGE if one falls.

If we can get Ziggy in FA, pick up Jensen at C and then focus on CB/Oline with our first pick, we will be in good shape.

Originally posted by wailers15:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by wailers15:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by wailers15:
Definitely not a top 10 pick but his brother will be !!

Riley Ridley hasn't done squat for two seasons and Calvin has been producing since his freshaman year. Now all of a sudden after one game Riley is a top 10 pick and Calvin isn't. You gotta be frickin kidding Webzone!!! Smfh

lol easy killer don't wet the paper yet. all i am saying is he's not a top 10 talent in this draft. just given off of the class no. Defense will reign this draft. Yes his bro hasn't done much, but has the tools to be better. and when his brother comes out who knows he may well be a top 10 pick come then. let's see how he does with Fromm. maybe he improves his game. kind of hard to hate on the guy when he turns it up on the biggest stage of his career. plus given the depth the Dawgs have at the WR, & TE spot plus you through in both those RB's...yeah there's some depth constraints there. they did a great job of distributing the ball all around this year.

all i said is i don't see Calvin being a top 10 pick, lol nothing wrong with that. given the talent at D, and the given need...no i don't see him as a top 10 pick. now for his bro, who the fk knows but if that game jump-starts his activity in Athens then watch out. man i watch a ton of SEC foots so i'm not out of the loop.

lol fkn webzone no sht so many of you get your panties in a wad..and do so right quick.

But you're doing exactly what I said, people base things off of one game....ONE GAME. I mean from this one game you basically just anointed Riley Ridley a top 10 pick because he has the tools to be better than his brother......how so? It's pretty much a question mark of how good he runs his routes and gets separation which Calvin has done throughout his whole career. You totally overlooked the fact that Calvin Ridley went through the season with one of the worst SEC passers I've ever seen. Hurts has no business being a QB period with all the running he does.

Panties in a wad. .....at least I don't make crazy assumptions like the one above. lol smfh

Not making my assumption off of one game. Either way you slice it I don't put him in the top 10.
Re Riley, okay sure it may be an assumption but Its more of a prediction. I'm more focused on Calvin. Do I think Riley has a high ceiling? Hell fkn yes especially given how Georgia spreads that ball around. Riley may not put up numbers like his brother but the Dogs Offense is way more diverse and they utilize all of their weapons.

I didn't overlook the fact Calvin had one of the worst QB's. Go back and you can see I clearly stated that Hurts has no business being a QB period.

Maybe a bad choice of words. Lol my bad for not being more descriptive.
And how is that crazy to say Riley May be a top 10 pick when he comes out?
each draft is totally different. This draft is loaded with defense and that's why I don't see Calvin as a top 10.
Maybe when Riley comes out it's thin on the d side and he blows it up? That's not a far fetched assumption. Did you even hear Herbstreet say that he's got all the talent to be a solid NFL WR? So I'm not the only one who sees talent there.

Bad choice of words, but either way I just don't value Calvin a top 10 pick.

After one game, what I do think is that Riley Ridley will have a bigger role now that they know he can be depended on to make big plays. I'm not sure that translates to a top 10 pick but with Jake Fromm as his QB there's no where to go but up after the championship game. One thing going for Riley is that he'll be able to gain chemistry and grow with Fromm throughout his college career. Too bad Calvin didn't have that same luxury with Jake Coker, who he had his best year with.

But I do agree that the level of talent on both offense and defense may just push Ridley out of the top 10. Two O-lineman that I think might push Ridley out of the top 10 are Connor Williams and Orlando Brown (man I would love to have him as a RT/w Trent Brown sliding over to LT) but anyway. Minkah Fitzpatrick and Derwin James may also push Ridley out of the top 10, so that's two more.

I'm looking it like this, if the 9ers can win the coin flip giving them the #9 overall pick then I say stand pat and take Roquan Smith. If he's gone, trade down and hopefully land Ridley if he hasn't already been drafted. Two teams I do think would take a chance on him in the top 10 are Tampa Bay and Chicago, but more Chicago they don't really have anything there at WR.

Anyway, I agree to disagree but actually agree with you if you know what I mean.

Originally posted by Dillesq:

If we can get Ziggy in FA, pick up Jensen at C and then focus on CB/Oline with our first pick, we will be in good shape.

Agreed with Ziggy and Jensen but I rather get a veteran CB with NFL experience in FA. Spoon will be a 2nd year player with little experience and we need an experienced veteran CB opposite of him. Remember Robinson last season when we thought he'll be a stud in his 2nd season? That backfired on Kyle by depending too much on RR and not having an experienced veteran CB opposite of him. I'd sign either Johnson, Butler or Fuller to pair with Spoon and Williams at Nickle. That way we can go either OLine(Nelson) or Edge Rusher(Landry/Chubb/Ferrell, or Davenport) with our 1st pick.

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by jonnydel:
I like Ridley, I think his numbers took a big hit because Jalen Hurts played like dog crap for most of the year. We Bama fans were screaming for Tua all year, esp. in the Iron Bowl. Hurts has been reluctant to throw and been very, very shaky all year. He would hold on to the ball forever and wasn't throwing with any confidence. Just think about how fed up Saban was with Hurts to pull your starting QB and insert a true freshman in the national championship game.

Given you being a Bama fan and someone who watches a lot of 9er tape, how do you see Ridley fitting into this offense?

Certainly opposing DC's would have their work cut out for them in trying to limit big plays given they would have to deal with the speed and quickness of both Ridley and Goodwin.

Do you see Ridley as a top 15 pick in this class?

Ridley isn't quite the physical beast that Cooper is but athletically isn't far off Julio, IMO. He runs good routes and displays good foot quickness. He's not going to be that guy who will physically overmatch opponents so he may struggle against press-coverage. But, he can be a matchup nightmare for Shanny to use. You can put him outside as he has some nice length to him and is a good hands catcher. I'd say he's closer to a Chad Johnson than anyone. He probably doesn't have quite the same foot quickness but he's a guy I wouldn't want to put man-coverage on with anyone other than Marcus Peters or Patrick Peterson. It's yet to be seen how he'd do against NFL defenses running across the middle of the field - which Shanny likes to do with his receivers, because he's a little undersized for his frame. Like I said, Cooper is the same height but is listed 13 lbs heavier.

Can he add some mass but retain speed and agility like T.O. did? If so, he could be a monster.

He's a very low risk player because his game isn't predicated on being physically superior outside of speed and quickness. What I mean is, last year Cory Davis and Mike Williams were physically dominant. They used size, speed, strength and length to outmatch a lot of guys. They're having a harder time doing that in the NFL and haven't broken out yet. Ridley isn't that kind of receiver. He'll use speed and quickness along with sharp route running to beat defenders but also has good length to go over-the-top on the outside.

Will he be a top 5 WR in the NFL? It's possible but we didn't have a chance to see it this year with Hurts being so reluctant to throw anyone open or give his guys a chance to win 1 v 1 battles. Often times, if Hurts saw man-coverage he would run it. He could turn out to be a Julio or Cooper but at worst he'll probably be a solid #2 guy.

Who I wish we could get this year but he won't be eligible in the draft is Jerry Jeudy. If he stays on his track, he could be the best WR to come out of bama for over a decade - yeah, I said that right.

Originally posted by babarvaart:
you don't need an elite WR to win a SB. Pass rush, G/C & CB are comfortably the biggest needs and I'm sure the 1st rd pick will go on one of those.

This x10000

Just look at all of NE's SB wins and Seattle beating DEN. Who was their elite WR? Golden Tate? lol

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by babarvaart:
you don't need an elite WR to win a SB. Pass rush, G/C & CB are comfortably the biggest needs and I'm sure the 1st rd pick will go on one of those.

This x10000

Just look at all of NE's SB wins and Seattle beating DEN. Who was their elite WR? Golden Tate? lol

yep and i think the biggest thing is that Garappolo made goodwin and taylor look like suitable starters. Beforehand, they look like the #5 and #6 if anything. I have faith that Garappolo can enhance the play of wide receivers on the field.

I really hope we just bring in a underrated FA like Moncreif or J.Matthews and spend a mid-late pick on a WR.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by babarvaart:
you don't need an elite WR to win a SB. Pass rush, G/C & CB are comfortably the biggest needs and I'm sure the 1st rd pick will go on one of those.

This x10000

Just look at all of NE's SB wins and Seattle beating DEN. Who was their elite WR? Golden Tate? lol

We won a couple with Jerry Rice but overall I don't think this offense in general needs a elite WR.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by babarvaart:
you don't need an elite WR to win a SB. Pass rush, G/C & CB are comfortably the biggest needs and I'm sure the 1st rd pick will go on one of those.

This x10000

Just look at all of NE's SB wins and Seattle beating DEN. Who was their elite WR? Golden Tate? lol

We won a couple with Jerry Rice but overall I don't think this offense in general needs a elite WR.

Joe won his first 2 without Jerry...which is my point. We can get an "elite" WR some other time.

Look at what JG accomplished without Garcon...

I think we'll be fine with a healthy Garcon and a more experienced Goodwin, Bourne and Taylor. Maybe, get someone in the middle rounds with some height for our RZ offense.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by babarvaart:
you don't need an elite WR to win a SB. Pass rush, G/C & CB are comfortably the biggest needs and I'm sure the 1st rd pick will go on one of those.

This x10000

Just look at all of NE's SB wins and Seattle beating DEN. Who was their elite WR? Golden Tate? lol

We won a couple with Jerry Rice but overall I don't think this offense in general needs a elite WR.

Joe won his first 2 without Jerry...which is my point. We can get an "elite" WR some other time.

Look at what JG accomplished without Garcon...

Don't be knocking Rice lol j/k

I want this team to go to the next level, not just a 6 win team (we beat a good Jags team and a Titan team that's playing above their talent level)...Gracon isn't a long-term option. I'm cool with going after something else but at some point the WR corps has to be upgraded, this isn't the draft for that (at the top) IMO.

Originally posted by mayo49:
I think we'll be fine with a healthy Garcon and a more experienced Goodwin, Bourne and Taylor. Maybe, get someone in the middle rounds with some height for our RZ offense.

Cedrick Wilson from Boise ST is someone to check out in the mid rds. 6-3 190

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by wailers15:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by wailers15:

Definitely not a top 10 pick but his brother will be !!

Riley Ridley hasn't done squat for two seasons and Calvin has been producing since his freshaman year. Now all of a sudden after one game Riley is a top 10 pick and Calvin isn't. You gotta be frickin kidding Webzone!!! Smfh

lol easy killer don't wet the paper yet. all i am saying is he's not a top 10 talent in this draft. just given off of the class no. Defense will reign this draft. Yes his bro hasn't done much, but has the tools to be better. and when his brother comes out who knows he may well be a top 10 pick come then. let's see how he does with Fromm. maybe he improves his game. kind of hard to hate on the guy when he turns it up on the biggest stage of his career. plus given the depth the Dawgs have at the WR, & TE spot plus you through in both those RB's...yeah there's some depth constraints there. they did a great job of distributing the ball all around this year.

all i said is i don't see Calvin being a top 10 pick, lol nothing wrong with that. given the talent at D, and the given need...no i don't see him as a top 10 pick. now for his bro, who the fk knows but if that game jump-starts his activity in Athens then watch out. man i watch a ton of SEC foots so i'm not out of the loop.

lol fkn webzone no sht so many of you get your panties in a wad..and do so right quick.

But you're doing exactly what I said, people base things off of one game....ONE GAME. I mean from this one game you basically just anointed Riley Ridley a top 10 pick because he has the tools to be better than his brother......how so? It's pretty much a question mark of how good he runs his routes and gets separation which Calvin has done throughout his whole career. You totally overlooked the fact that Calvin Ridley went through the season with one of the worst SEC passers I've ever seen. Hurts has no business being a QB period with all the running he does.

Panties in a wad. .....at least I don't make crazy assumptions like the one above. lol smfh

Dude NY is well respected around here.. Dont come at him like that cause you're a mod kolohe. Agree to disagree, chill mang

How is he 24 yrs old and coming out as a junior?

Originally posted by DickNasty:

How is he 24 yrs old and coming out as a junior?

He just turned 23