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Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Originally posted by T-9ers:
This guy or the SDSU back.

Jones definitely 1A.

No. LOL.

~ Ronald Jones. 5'11" 200 lbs. 4.65 40. 2017 production he had 1,550 yards and 19 TD's.

~ Rashaad Penny 5'11" 220 lbs. 4.46 40. 2017 production was 2,248 yards and 23 TD's. He led the FBS. 7 return TD's which is tied for an FBS record. Which is more impressive when you realize they were scared to even kick off to him. He would have broken the record if they actually kicked off to him.

Penny is far more productive, much faster and more explosive, has super high special teams value and is 20 pounds bigger and stronger and more powerful. There is no comparison at all.

1) Barkley
2) Penny

Of the RB's.

3).....The rest of the RB's after that.....

I think it's debatable at this point between Chubb and Penny for #2.

~ Chubb 4.52 40. 2017 production is 1,345 yards and 15 TD's.

5'11" 228 lbs.

~ Penny 4.46 40. 2017 production is 2,248 yards and 23 TD's. He led FBS. He also has 7 return TD's which is tied for an FBS record. Even more impressive when you understand they were afraid to kick off to him. He would have more easily if they would kick to him.

5'11" 220 lbs.

They are pretty similar on height and weight. Almost the same in fact. #2 is Penny. Only Barkley goes ahead of him at RB. Even Mel Kiper said he can go #2 of the RB's. Mayock calls Penny very underrated. I believe strongly Penny goes #2 of the RB's. Plus he is worth that easily IMO. Not that Chubb is a bad player. I think he is good. I would just take the more speed at the NFL level.

Barkely is a freak at 233 lbs. and running a 4.40. But lost in all that is Penny at 220 lbs. running a 4.46 and having the huge production that he has is actually very impressive. He is no slouch. He is the real deal and an excellent athlete in his own right.
You're ignoring the fact that outside of 40 time (very min difference between 4.52 and 4.46) except at 8 pounds heavier Chubb was better at every other measurable at the combine including vertical, bench, broad jump while showing more length and he had to split time with another top prospect in Sony to explain his production.

I really like Penny too but Chubb showed amazing physical ability.


That's ignoring the vastly different level of competition as well. SEC defense is far superior to Mountain West defense. That being said, I prefer Penny to Chubb, though neither would piss me off.
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
That's ignoring the vastly different level of competition as well. SEC defense is far superior to Mountain West defense. That being said, I prefer Penny to Chubb, though neither would piss me off.

Both will be gone before our 2nd pick
Got distracted from the topic. On that topic, I'd be happy to have RoJo on the squad. If you think he's not a burner, and a natural for the outside zone scheme that we run, you need to up your research game. There's some really good, easily accessible, video of him online.
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Got distracted from the topic. On that topic, I'd be happy to have RoJo on the squad. If you think he's not a burner, and a natural for the outside zone scheme that we run, you need to up your research game. There's some really good, easily accessible, video of him online.

The way he hits the hole is perfect for us. He looks like jamal charles as far as his body type and stride go.
Originally posted by Dillesq:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
That's ignoring the vastly different level of competition as well. SEC defense is far superior to Mountain West defense. That being said, I prefer Penny to Chubb, though neither would piss me off.

Both will be gone before our 2nd pick


I wouldn't be mad if we traded down and got extra picks in the second, or traded up a bit in the second. The second and third rounds appear to be full of value this year. Moreso than the first, in my opinion. I think someone, possibly even the shehawks, will pay Hyde more than we will, and we're going to need a quality back with some size.
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by Dillesq:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
That's ignoring the vastly different level of competition as well. SEC defense is far superior to Mountain West defense. That being said, I prefer Penny to Chubb, though neither would piss me off.

Both will be gone before our 2nd pick

I wouldn't be mad if we traded down and got extra picks in the second, or traded up a bit in the second. The second and third rounds appear to be full of value this year. Moreso than the first, in my opinion. I think someone, possibly even the shehawks, will pay Hyde more than we will, and we're going to need a quality back with some size.


If Nelson and Barkley are gone I'd be okay trading down and grabbing Jones or Davenport if he's there.
Dudes. Everyone knows that if you pulled a hammy, you can't perform in an outside zone based running attack.


2016 Pumphrey
2133 yards, 6.1 avg, 17 td
4.48 40 yard dash.

Let's not forgot how productive Pumphrey was last year in the same conference. Clearly, we need more than just production and 40 times. I know you've watched all of Penny's games, but watch the other back's games before making a comparison.
[ Edited by adrianlesnar on Mar 3, 2018 at 8:50 AM ]
Pumphreys a buck 70, Penny weighs 220. they ran the same 40 time. Completely different backs. Watch the catch and run, through and pass, other elite college players at the senior bowl Penny had.
Originally posted by cdub80:
Pumphreys a buck 70, Penny weighs 220. they ran the same 40 time. Completely different backs. Watch the catch and run, through and pass, other elite college players at the senior bowl Penny had.

My point went right over your head, I'm afraid.
Come on baby.. Slide and make it happen Shanny.
Really like Jones and he's an absolute perfect fit for this offense. I'd prefer we'd bring him in to partner with Hyde (if re-signed). I think he's a bit away from handling the rock 20+ times.
My friend just texted me that he met ronald jones. He said that he would like to go to dallas and hopes the browns don't draft him lol.
Originally posted by gold49digger:
My friend just texted me that he met ronald jones. He said that he would like to go to dallas and hopes the browns don't draft him lol.

Cle has a mountain of 2nd round picks. If they don't get Barkley, expect somebody with one of those high 2's.
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Originally posted by gold49digger:
My friend just texted me that he met ronald jones. He said that he would like to go to dallas and hopes the browns don't draft him lol.

?? To be a backup?

Maybe he mean't he'd like to take in a rodeo as he passes through.
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by gold49digger:
My friend just texted me that he met ronald jones. He said that he would like to go to dallas and hopes the browns don't draft him lol.

?? To be a backup?

Maybe he mean't he'd like to take in a rodeo as he passes through.

re-read it and he actually said he wishes he could go to dallas. still, typical that someone that wants to go to dallas
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