Ronald Jones, RB, USC

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:

Originally posted by T-9ers:
This guy or the SDSU back.

Jones definitely 1A.

No.

~ Ronald Jones. 5'11" 200 lbs. 4.65 40. 2017 production he had 1,550 yards and 19 TD's.

~ Rashaad Penny 5'11" 220 lbs. 4.46 40. 2017 production was 2,248 yards and 23 TD's. He led the FBS. 7 return TD's which is tied for an FBS record. Which is more impressive when you realize they were scared to even kick off to him. He would have broken the record if they actually kicked off to him.

Penny is far more productive, much faster and more explosive, has super high special teams value and is 20 pounds bigger and stronger and more powerful. There is no comparison at all.

1) Barkley
2) Penny

Of the RB's.

3).....The rest of the RB's after that.....

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:

Originally posted by T-9ers:
This guy or the SDSU back.

Jones definitely 1A.

No. LOL.

~ Ronald Jones. 5'11" 200 lbs. 4.65 40. 2017 production he had 1,550 yards and 19 TD's.

~ Rashaad Penny 5'11" 220 lbs. 4.46 40. 2017 production was 2,248 yards and 23 TD's. He led the FBS. 7 return TD's which is tied for an FBS record. Which is more impressive when you realize they were scared to even kick off to him. He would have broken the record if they actually kicked off to him.

Penny is far more productive, much faster and more explosive, has super high special teams value and is 20 pounds bigger and stronger and more powerful. There is no comparison at all.

1) Barkley
2) Penny

Of the RB's.

3).....The rest of the RB's after that.....

I think it's debatable at this point between Chubb and Penny for #2.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:

Originally posted by T-9ers:
This guy or the SDSU back.

Jones definitely 1A.

No. LOL.

~ Ronald Jones. 5'11" 200 lbs. 4.65 40. 2017 production he had 1,550 yards and 19 TD's.

~ Rashaad Penny 5'11" 220 lbs. 4.46 40. 2017 production was 2,248 yards and 23 TD's. He led the FBS. 7 return TD's which is tied for an FBS record. Which is more impressive when you realize they were scared to even kick off to him. He would have broken the record if they actually kicked off to him.

Penny is far more productive, much faster and more explosive, has super high special teams value and is 20 pounds bigger and stronger and more powerful. There is no comparison at all.

1) Barkley
2) Penny

Of the RB's.

3).....The rest of the RB's after that.....

I think it's debatable at this point between Chubb and Penny for #2.

~ Chubb 4.52 40. 2017 production is 1,345 yards and 15 TD's.

5'11" 228 lbs.

~ Penny 4.46 40. 2017 production is 2,248 yards and 23 TD's. He led FBS. He also has 7 return TD's which is tied for an FBS record. Even more impressive when you understand they were afraid to kick off to him. He would have more easily if they would kick to him.

5'11" 220 lbs.

They are pretty similar on height and weight. Almost the same in fact. #2 is Penny. Only Barkley goes ahead of him at RB. Even Mel Kiper said he can go #2 of the RB's. Mayock calls Penny very underrated. I believe strongly Penny goes #2 of the RB's. Plus he is worth that easily IMO. Not that Chubb is a bad player. I think he is good. I would just take the more speed at the NFL level.

Barkely is a freak at 233 lbs. and running a 4.40. But lost in all that is Penny at 220 lbs. running a 4.46 and having the huge production that he has is actually very impressive. He is no slouch. He is the real deal and an excellent athlete in his own right.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:

Originally posted by T-9ers:
This guy or the SDSU back.

Jones definitely 1A.

No. LOL.

~ Ronald Jones. 5'11" 200 lbs. 4.65 40. 2017 production he had 1,550 yards and 19 TD's.

~ Rashaad Penny 5'11" 220 lbs. 4.46 40. 2017 production was 2,248 yards and 23 TD's. He led the FBS. 7 return TD's which is tied for an FBS record. Which is more impressive when you realize they were scared to even kick off to him. He would have broken the record if they actually kicked off to him.

Penny is far more productive, much faster and more explosive, has super high special teams value and is 20 pounds bigger and stronger and more powerful. There is no comparison at all.

1) Barkley
2) Penny

Of the RB's.

3).....The rest of the RB's after that.....

I think it's debatable at this point between Chubb and Penny for #2.

~ Chubb 4.52 40. 2017 production is 1,345 yards and 15 TD's.

5'11" 228 lbs.

~ Penny 4.46 40. 2017 production is 2,248 yards and 23 TD's. He led FBS. He also has 7 return TD's which is tied for an FBS record. Even more impressive when you understand they were afraid to kick off to him. He would have more easily if they would kick to him.

5'11" 220 lbs.

They are pretty similar on height and weight. Almost the same in fact. #2 is Penny. Only Barkley goes ahead of him at RB. Even Mel Kiper said he can go #2 of the RB's. Mayock calls Penny very underrated. I believe strongly Penny goes #2 of the RB's. Plus he is worth that easily IMO. Not that Chubb is a bad player. I think he is good. I would just take the more speed at the NFL level.

Barkely is a freak at 233 lbs. and running a 4.40. But lost in all that is Penny at 220 lbs. running a 4.46 and having the huge production that he has is actually very impressive. He is no slouch. He is the real deal and an excellent athlete in his own right.

You're ignoring the fact that outside of 40 time (very min difference between 4.52 and 4.46) except at 8 pounds heavier Chubb was better at every other measurable at the combine including vertical, bench, broad jump while showing more length and he had to split time with another top prospect in Sony to explain his production.

I really like Penny too but Chubb showed amazing physical ability.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:

Originally posted by T-9ers:
This guy or the SDSU back.

Jones definitely 1A.

No. LOL.

~ Ronald Jones. 5'11" 200 lbs. 4.65 40. 2017 production he had 1,550 yards and 19 TD's.

~ Rashaad Penny 5'11" 220 lbs. 4.46 40. 2017 production was 2,248 yards and 23 TD's. He led the FBS. 7 return TD's which is tied for an FBS record. Which is more impressive when you realize they were scared to even kick off to him. He would have broken the record if they actually kicked off to him.

Penny is far more productive, much faster and more explosive, has super high special teams value and is 20 pounds bigger and stronger and more powerful. There is no comparison at all.

1) Barkley
2) Penny

Of the RB's.

3).....The rest of the RB's after that.....

I think it's debatable at this point between Chubb and Penny for #2.

~ Chubb 4.52 40. 2017 production is 1,345 yards and 15 TD's.

5'11" 228 lbs.

~ Penny 4.46 40. 2017 production is 2,248 yards and 23 TD's. He led FBS. He also has 7 return TD's which is tied for an FBS record. Even more impressive when you understand they were afraid to kick off to him. He would have more easily if they would kick to him.

5'11" 220 lbs.

They are pretty similar on height and weight. Almost the same in fact. #2 is Penny. Only Barkley goes ahead of him at RB. Even Mel Kiper said he can go #2 of the RB's. Mayock calls Penny very underrated. I believe strongly Penny goes #2 of the RB's. Plus he is worth that easily IMO. Not that Chubb is a bad player. I think he is good. I would just take the more speed at the NFL level.

Barkely is a freak at 233 lbs. and running a 4.40. But lost in all that is Penny at 220 lbs. running a 4.46 and having the huge production that he has is actually very impressive. He is no slouch. He is the real deal and an excellent athlete in his own right.

You're ignoring the fact that outside of 40 time (very min difference between 4.52 and 4.46) except at 8 pounds heavier Chubb was better at every other measurable at the combine including vertical, bench, broad jump while showing more length and he had to split time with another top prospect in Sony to explain his production.

I really like Penny too but Chubb showed amazing physical ability.

I like Chubb but his production is nowhere near what Penny's production is. Plus I like the faster long speed guy for the NFL. I believe he will have more long breakaway runs in the NFL. Maybe Chubb can be #3 of the RB's. But we can agree to disagree on this one respectfully. I think all 3 can be pretty good NFL backs. Barkley, Penny and Chubb. I won't feel bad if we are able to somehow land Penny. He would surprise people IMO and really help this team with his explosive plays. We could use some explosion in or running game. He would add a lot more speed for us there. There is no more explosive RB in this draft with also having very high level production too than Penny with the exception of Barkley. Everybody openly admits Barkley is special and he will be long gone when we pick. The next most explosive guy with big production to back it up is Penny IMO.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:

Originally posted by T-9ers:
This guy or the SDSU back.

Jones definitely 1A.

No. LOL.

~ Ronald Jones. 5'11" 200 lbs. 4.65 40. 2017 production he had 1,550 yards and 19 TD's.

~ Rashaad Penny 5'11" 220 lbs. 4.46 40. 2017 production was 2,248 yards and 23 TD's. He led the FBS. 7 return TD's which is tied for an FBS record. Which is more impressive when you realize they were scared to even kick off to him. He would have broken the record if they actually kicked off to him.

Penny is far more productive, much faster and more explosive, has super high special teams value and is 20 pounds bigger and stronger and more powerful. There is no comparison at all.

1) Barkley
2) Penny

Of the RB's.

3).....The rest of the RB's after that.....

I think it's debatable at this point between Chubb and Penny for #2.

~ Chubb 4.52 40. 2017 production is 1,345 yards and 15 TD's.

5'11" 228 lbs.

~ Penny 4.46 40. 2017 production is 2,248 yards and 23 TD's. He led FBS. He also has 7 return TD's which is tied for an FBS record. Even more impressive when you understand they were afraid to kick off to him. He would have more easily if they would kick to him.

5'11" 220 lbs.

They are pretty similar on height and weight. Almost the same in fact. #2 is Penny. Only Barkley goes ahead of him at RB. Even Mel Kiper said he can go #2 of the RB's. Mayock calls Penny very underrated. I believe strongly Penny goes #2 of the RB's. Plus he is worth that easily IMO. Not that Chubb is a bad player. I think he is good. I would just take the more speed at the NFL level.

Barkely is a freak at 233 lbs. and running a 4.40. But lost in all that is Penny at 220 lbs. running a 4.46 and having the huge production that he has is actually very impressive. He is no slouch. He is the real deal and an excellent athlete in his own right.

You're ignoring the fact that outside of 40 time (very min difference between 4.52 and 4.46) except at 8 pounds heavier Chubb was better at every other measurable at the combine including vertical, bench, broad jump while showing more length and he had to split time with another top prospect in Sony to explain his production.

I really like Penny too but Chubb showed amazing physical ability.

I like Chubb but his production is nowhere near what Penny's production is. Plus I like the faster long speed guy for the NFL. I believe he will have more long breakaway runs in the NFL. Maybe Chubb can be #3 of the RB's. But we can agree to disagree on this one respectfully. I think all 3 can be pretty good NFL backs. Barkley, Penny and Chubb. I won't feel bad if we are able to somehow land Penny. He would surprise people IMO and really help this team with his explosive plays. We could use some explosion in or running game. He would add a lot more speed for us there. There is no more explosive RB in this draft with also having very high level production too than Penny with the exception of Barkley. Everybody openly admits Barkley is special and he will be long gone when we pick. The next most explosive guy with big production to back it up is Penny IMO.

Penny didn't have an elite Sony Michael like talent to compete with him for snaps at San Diego St. like Chubb did.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:

Originally posted by T-9ers:
This guy or the SDSU back.

Jones definitely 1A.

No. LOL.

~ Ronald Jones. 5'11" 200 lbs. 4.65 40. 2017 production he had 1,550 yards and 19 TD's.

~ Rashaad Penny 5'11" 220 lbs. 4.46 40. 2017 production was 2,248 yards and 23 TD's. He led the FBS. 7 return TD's which is tied for an FBS record. Which is more impressive when you realize they were scared to even kick off to him. He would have broken the record if they actually kicked off to him.

Penny is far more productive, much faster and more explosive, has super high special teams value and is 20 pounds bigger and stronger and more powerful. There is no comparison at all.

1) Barkley
2) Penny

Of the RB's.

3).....The rest of the RB's after that.....

I think it's debatable at this point between Chubb and Penny for #2.

~ Chubb 4.52 40. 2017 production is 1,345 yards and 15 TD's.

5'11" 228 lbs.

~ Penny 4.46 40. 2017 production is 2,248 yards and 23 TD's. He led FBS. He also has 7 return TD's which is tied for an FBS record. Even more impressive when you understand they were afraid to kick off to him. He would have more easily if they would kick to him.

5'11" 220 lbs.

They are pretty similar on height and weight. Almost the same in fact. #2 is Penny. Only Barkley goes ahead of him at RB. Even Mel Kiper said he can go #2 of the RB's. Mayock calls Penny very underrated. I believe strongly Penny goes #2 of the RB's. Plus he is worth that easily IMO. Not that Chubb is a bad player. I think he is good. I would just take the more speed at the NFL level.

Barkely is a freak at 233 lbs. and running a 4.40. But lost in all that is Penny at 220 lbs. running a 4.46 and having the huge production that he has is actually very impressive. He is no slouch. He is the real deal and an excellent athlete in his own right.

You're ignoring the fact that outside of 40 time (very min difference between 4.52 and 4.46) except at 8 pounds heavier Chubb was better at every other measurable at the combine including vertical, bench, broad jump while showing more length and he had to split time with another top prospect in Sony to explain his production.

I really like Penny too but Chubb showed amazing physical ability.

I like Chubb but his production is nowhere near what Penny's production is. Plus I like the faster long speed guy for the NFL. I believe he will have more long breakaway runs in the NFL. Maybe Chubb can be #3 of the RB's. But we can agree to disagree on this one respectfully. I think all 3 can be pretty good NFL backs. Barkley, Penny and Chubb. I won't feel bad if we are able to somehow land Penny. He would surprise people IMO and really help this team with his explosive plays. We could use some explosion in or running game. He would add a lot more speed for us there. There is no more explosive RB in this draft with also having very high level production too than Penny with the exception of Barkley. Everybody openly admits Barkley is special and he will be long gone when we pick. The next most explosive guy with big production to back it up is Penny IMO.

Penny didn't have an elite Sony Michael like talent to compete with him for snaps at San Diego St. like Chubb did.

That's not really his fault that they could not find anybody as good as him to play with him though right? LOL. I can't blame Penny for that. He did his thing.... That's all you can ask for and all you can do. Still the production is massively different and the long speed is better for Penny.

I mean you at least admit you can see the argument for Penny at #2 for RB right?

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

No.

~ Ronald Jones. 5'11" 200 lbs. 4.65 40. 2017 production he had 1,550 yards and 19 TD's.

~ Rashaad Penny 5'11" 220 lbs. 4.46 40. 2017 production was 2,248 yards and 23 TD's. He led the FBS. 7 return TD's which is tied for an FBS record. Which is more impressive when you realize they were scared to even kick off to him. He would have broken the record if they actually kicked off to him.

Penny is far more productive, much faster and more explosive, has super high special teams value and is 20 pounds bigger and stronger and more powerful. There is no comparison at all.

1) Barkley
2) Penny

Of the RB's.

3).....The rest of the RB's after that.....

Jones pulled a hammy so obvious if you watched it. That 40 time is inaccurate.

The replies in this thread are making me lose brain cells

Originally posted by Mertonschickendance:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
No.

~ Ronald Jones. 5'11" 200 lbs. 4.65 40. 2017 production he had 1,550 yards and 19 TD's.

~ Rashaad Penny 5'11" 220 lbs. 4.46 40. 2017 production was 2,248 yards and 23 TD's. He led the FBS. 7 return TD's which is tied for an FBS record. Which is more impressive when you realize they were scared to even kick off to him. He would have broken the record if they actually kicked off to him.

Penny is far more productive, much faster and more explosive, has super high special teams value and is 20 pounds bigger and stronger and more powerful. There is no comparison at all.

1) Barkley
2) Penny

Of the RB's.

3).....The rest of the RB's after that.....

Jones pulled a hammy so obvious if you watched it. That 40 time is inaccurate.

If he is not in shape enough or flexible enough to run a 40 at the combine whose fault is that? That's what he ran. That's the time. It is what it is.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Mertonschickendance:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

No.

~ Ronald Jones. 5'11" 200 lbs. 4.65 40. 2017 production he had 1,550 yards and 19 TD's.

~ Rashaad Penny 5'11" 220 lbs. 4.46 40. 2017 production was 2,248 yards and 23 TD's. He led the FBS. 7 return TD's which is tied for an FBS record. Which is more impressive when you realize they were scared to even kick off to him. He would have broken the record if they actually kicked off to him.

Penny is far more productive, much faster and more explosive, has super high special teams value and is 20 pounds bigger and stronger and more powerful. There is no comparison at all.

1) Barkley
2) Penny

Of the RB's.

3).....The rest of the RB's after that.....

Jones pulled a hammy so obvious if you watched it. That 40 time is inaccurate.

If he is not in shape enough or flexible enough to run a 40 at the combine whose fault is that? That's what he ran. That's the time. It is what it is.

That's stupid logic.

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Mertonschickendance:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
No.

~ Ronald Jones. 5'11" 200 lbs. 4.65 40. 2017 production he had 1,550 yards and 19 TD's.

~ Rashaad Penny 5'11" 220 lbs. 4.46 40. 2017 production was 2,248 yards and 23 TD's. He led the FBS. 7 return TD's which is tied for an FBS record. Which is more impressive when you realize they were scared to even kick off to him. He would have broken the record if they actually kicked off to him.

Penny is far more productive, much faster and more explosive, has super high special teams value and is 20 pounds bigger and stronger and more powerful. There is no comparison at all.

1) Barkley
2) Penny

Of the RB's.

3).....The rest of the RB's after that.....

Jones pulled a hammy so obvious if you watched it. That 40 time is inaccurate.

If he is not in shape enough or flexible enough to run a 40 at the combine whose fault is that? That's what he ran. That's the time. It is what it is.

That's stupid logic.

So we want to give him credit for being fast when.....

1) He did not run fast.
2) He could not finish is 40 completely healthy.

So we are going to make up a # off the top of our heads and say he can run it when he didn't run it and you have no idea what he can run? This is the logic you are using here? I'm not sure how that makes sense?

Idk bout that 40 time but he looks faster than 4.65 here and that's what matters to me.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Ronald Jones 20-touchdown extravaganza in 2017. pic.twitter.com/XczRd7xPJW

— James Simpson (@JS_Football) February 22, 2018

Needs to be a niner

Lol....1:13. What is his own OG doing?

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Mertonschickendance:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
No.

~ Ronald Jones. 5'11" 200 lbs. 4.65 40. 2017 production he had 1,550 yards and 19 TD's.

~ Rashaad Penny 5'11" 220 lbs. 4.46 40. 2017 production was 2,248 yards and 23 TD's. He led the FBS. 7 return TD's which is tied for an FBS record. Which is more impressive when you realize they were scared to even kick off to him. He would have broken the record if they actually kicked off to him.

Penny is far more productive, much faster and more explosive, has super high special teams value and is 20 pounds bigger and stronger and more powerful. There is no comparison at all.

1) Barkley
2) Penny

Of the RB's.

3).....The rest of the RB's after that.....

Jones pulled a hammy so obvious if you watched it. That 40 time is inaccurate.

If he is not in shape enough or flexible enough to run a 40 at the combine whose fault is that? That's what he ran. That's the time. It is what it is.

That's stupid logic.

So we want to give him credit for being fast when.....

1) He did not run fast.
2) He could not finish is 40 completely healthy.

So we are going to make up a # off the top of our heads and say he can run it when he didn't run it and you have no idea what he can run? This is the logic you are using here? I'm not sure how that makes sense?

quenton nelson didn't run his 40 either because he tweaked something....does that make him not in shape or flexible enough?