Bradley Chubb DE North Carolina State

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by jcs:
OP said Landry was considerably faster...numbers disprove that.

Chubbs 3-cone was 7.37 and Landry's was 6.88...it's more about quickness rather than straight line speed.

Chubb is a more complete pass rusher than Landry but i wouldn't say he's quicker

he;s not even a more complete pass rusher. Landry is the better pass rusher by far. Chubb is just a better all around edge

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by GhostOfBaalke:

I haven't seen as much of him as I've seen other edge prospects. Only a handful of games. Since I don't see him dropping to us , so not even wasting my time. But I find it interesting that some think he might not be the perfect fit for us off the edge. I completely see why. This was my first post in the thread.

Originally posted by GhostOfBaalke:

He's a total beast but doesn't seem like he has the speed we desperately need

I Agree. I don't see him dropping to us either. Too many in the media and even our own draft experts here say he's going to go in the first top 5 picks. For the record, I'm a Landry fan, but if Chubb is available at #9 *and* Landry is also available at #9, who do you pick? For me, I'd strongly lean on Chubb because - maybe he doesn't have Landry's speed, but he's maybe a better all around player? I need help from our resident draft experts on this.

They might have similar speed in drills but just watch any game and the play style and speed difference is obvious. Landry is the faster edge rusher. But as mentioned, Chubb is more complete.

Idk who id take. Haven't seen enough of Chubb to make that decision. Watched some games on YouTube but that's it . I'm pretty sure I'd take Chubb but would have to see more tape.

Originally posted by Dillesq:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by jcs:
OP said Landry was considerably faster...numbers disprove that.

Chubbs 3-cone was 7.37 and Landry's was 6.88...it's more about quickness rather than straight line speed.

Chubb is a more complete pass rusher than Landry but i wouldn't say he's quicker

he;s not even a more complete pass rusher. Landry is the better pass rusher by far. Chubb is just a better all around edge

I disagree, and Chubb is more consistent too.

The nice thing is he won't be on the board so this is one we don't have to worry about. He'll be the 1st dl taken.

I'd take Landry over him though. Scheme fit. With Chubb you run the risk of him being better at strongside end than leo. Landry is the type of end we're looking for. Chubb would be alot better pick if we didn't take Soloman last year.

Originally posted by tjd808185:
The nice thing is he won't be on the board so this is one we don't have to worry about. He'll be the 1st dl taken.

I'd take Landry over him though. Scheme fit. With Chubb you run the risk of him being better at strongside end than leo. Landry is the type of end we're looking for. Chubb would be alot better pick if we didn't take Soloman last year.

Good point about Solomon and Chubb being very similar. I agree, the way Chubb looks - he'd fit in Saleh's scheme as a strongside DE and possibly DT in the nickel, and we already have Solomon for the nickel DT, and 49ers could probably get a good run stopping strongside DE later in the draft and we already have Armstead and Blair for that role. I like Landry too, because he fits perfectly the LEO position in the Saleh defense. So yeah, between Chubb and Landry - if - both are available, I'd probably pick Landry too.

Originally posted by Dillesq:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by jcs:

OP said Landry was considerably faster...numbers disprove that.

Chubbs 3-cone was 7.37 and Landry's was 6.88...it's more about quickness rather than straight line speed.

Chubb is a more complete pass rusher than Landry but i wouldn't say he's quicker

he;s not even a more complete pass rusher. Landry is the better pass rusher by far. Chubb is just a better all around edge

There's absolutely no way you could make that statement if you've actually watched both prospects, Landry's ability to bend around the edge and keep his balance is elite, Von Miller elite.

That said Chubb wins with speed, but also with savvy, power, moves, tenacity and a ridiculous motor, he generates more pressures than Landry, just does it in a less flashy way.

Chubb is elite, Landry is pretty good.

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

There's absolutely no way you could make that statement if you've actually watched both prospects, Landry's ability to bend around the edge and keep his balance is elite, Von Miller elite.

That said Chubb wins with speed, but also with savvy, power, moves, tenacity and a ridiculous motor, he generates more pressures than Landry, just does it in a less flashy way.

Chubb is elite, Landry is pretty good.

I've watched both. Landry is the best pass rusher in the draft. Go debate someone who doesn't watch film.

Originally posted by Dillesq:

I've watched both. Landry is the best pass rusher in the draft. Go debate someone who doesn't watch film.

Fair enough if you've watched them, but I still disagree. The amount of times I saw a Tackle almost fall over himself to get back for Landry's speed and was begging for a counter that didn't come left me frustrated.

Chubb and OO have a much better plan, so for me are better pass rushers.

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by Dillesq:
I've watched both. Landry is the best pass rusher in the draft. Go debate someone who doesn't watch film.

Fair enough if you've watched them, but I still disagree. The amount of times I saw a Tackle almost fall over himself to get back for Landry's speed and was begging for a counter that didn't come left me frustrated.

Chubb and OO have a much better plan, so for me are better pass rushers.

It's all in how you view it. IMO Harold is still perfecting his craft. He's able to generate pass rush with what he's doing so there's not a ton of incentive to change things up. However he shows enough that I don't have concerns about him doing it. To me he's not just a guy who tries to jump off the snap and get around with his speed and it either works or not. There's enough going on with his moves to show me he does have a plan.

NFL coaches will be very happy to work with him and dictate how he can best attack the guys he'll be facing on game day.

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by Dillesq:
I've watched both. Landry is the best pass rusher in the draft. Go debate someone who doesn't watch film.

Fair enough if you've watched them, but I still disagree. The amount of times I saw a Tackle almost fall over himself to get back for Landry's speed and was begging for a counter that didn't come left me frustrated.

Chubb and OO have a much better plan, so for me are better pass rushers.

I like Chubb a lot, I just think Landry fits more the mold of what we are building. Chubb has benefited from having a line full of studs to play with and being able to purely out-athlete guys. I don't see an elite pass rusher...but he is an elite edge setter. He doesn't have the elite flexibilty and hip flip that landry does to bend and flatten to the QB.

Landry's ability to dip and rip is Von Miller-like i agree with you there which is why I love his potential as a volume sack guy in this scheme.

Originally posted by Dillesq:

I like Chubb a lot, I just think Landry fits more the mold of what we are building. Chubb has benefited from having a line full of studs to play with and being able to purely out-athlete guys. I don't see an elite pass rusher...but he is an elite edge setter. He doesn't have the elite flexibilty and hip flip that landry does to bend and flatten to the QB.

Landry's ability to dip and rip is Von Miller-like i agree with you there which is why I love his potential as a volume sack guy in this scheme.

Problem is that Landry would be completely nullified, as it stands mind you, by either an athletic tackle, or by a chipping back or TE.

Chubb would be a nightmare alongside Buck & Solly.

He did have a monster line, but we can give him that here.

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Problem is that Landry would be completely nullified, as it stands mind you, by either an athletic tackle, or by a chipping back or TE.

Chubb would be a nightmare alongside Buck & Solly.

He did have a monster line, but we can give him that here.

I don't really see Landry being nullified. His combine numbers are similar to Von Miller, Demarcus Lawrence etc. he's a strong kid...he just needs to add some nuance to his pass rush. 1v1 with a tackle, i think he'll be able to held his own. And it's not just about sacks...it's anout getting the QB off his spot and in uncomfortable situations. He has the speed to apply pressure.

I wouldn't mind Chubb, i think he's awesome. I just think Landry has more potential as a volume sack guy and fits more of what Saleh is building scheme wise.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Hue Jackson dreams of pairing Chubb with Garrett https://t.co/1E4L7cNGLb

— ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) March 30, 2018

Hue should dream about winning a game first. I'm still shocked they didn't fire his ass.

Originally posted by Dillesq:

I don't really see Landry being nullified. His combine numbers are similar to Von Miller, Demarcus Lawrence etc. he's a strong kid...he just needs to add some nuance to his pass rush. 1v1 with a tackle, i think he'll be able to held his own. And it's not just about sacks...it's anout getting the QB off his spot and in uncomfortable situations. He has the speed to apply pressure.

I wouldn't mind Chubb, i think he's awesome. I just think Landry has more potential as a volume sack guy and fits more of what Saleh is building scheme wise.

Oh, I completely get the reason to like Landry, I just think there's a lot of rose-tinted glasses being worn.

For me there is no scheme or scenario that could make me pick Landry over Chubb.

Chubb is closer to Garrett than he is to Landry.