Bradley Chubb DE North Carolina State

Originally posted by footballxpaul:

no way chi let's fuller get away

Why not? They didn't give him the 5th yr option and they might have a new GM/HC.

Edit: someone already brought this up

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

I doubt he's there when we pick.

If he is what he's hyped to be -- the Niners have more than enough draft capital to get him. Pass rusher is this team's #1 need, by far.

Well a true Leo (which the is question if he is for our scheme) would greatly help the defense, but I just can't see us trading up when we have tons of needs.

Can someone please explain to me specifically what makes him an elite prospect? Everything I read and see says good all-around end, but nothing about being an elite pass rusher or elite run stopper. Things like "good" burst and "not too stiff", and shows "some bend" are repeatedly used to describe his game. Doesn't this team need a guy with "great" burst" that shows no "stiffness" and has a "great" bend? I see him playing at Tank's position in our scheme and performing similarly.

Harold Landry should be our guy after we beat the Rams. Should be where we pick and hits a big need.

Originally posted by NinerLegionnaire:

Can someone please explain to me specifically what makes him an elite prospect? Everything I read and see says good all-around end, but nothing about being an elite pass rusher or elite run stopper. Things like "good" burst and "not too stiff", and shows "some bend" are repeatedly used to describe his game. Doesn't this team need a guy with "great" burst" that shows no "stiffness" and has a "great" bend? I see him playing at Tank's position in our scheme and performing similarly.

He's the best edge rusher in the class because he's solid against the run and the pass and has good athleticism for his size. He's not an elite prospect like a Myles Garrett or Clowney, Von Miller, or Khalil Mack. Chubb will likely be a top 5 pick because the only elite prospects at their position are Barkley (RB) and Nelson (OG) which are less valuable positions.

Good size, pretty good athleticism (not ideal for LEO though), good motor, good production, some pass rush moves, good in run defense. He's solid all around which makes him a good prospect. He would have been somewhere between Garrett and Barnett last year given he's much better than Barnett against the run and doesn't have Barnett's physical limitations.

I'll laugh if we go D-Line in the 1st round for the fourth year in a row.

Originally posted by TheXFactor:
I'll laugh if we go D-Line in the 1st round for the fourth year in a row.

Would have zero issue going after somebody who specializes in pass rush. Don't care about who we've drafted before. Pass rush is this team's #1 issue to address.

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:
I'll laugh if we go D-Line in the 1st round for the fourth year in a row.

Would have zero issue going after somebody who specializes in pass rush. Don't care about who we've drafted before. Pass rush is this team's #1 issue to address.

It's not even top 3.

Originally posted by TheXFactor:

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:
I'll laugh if we go D-Line in the 1st round for the fourth year in a row.

Would have zero issue going after somebody who specializes in pass rush. Don't care about who we've drafted before. Pass rush is this team's #1 issue to address.

It's not even top 3.

John Lynch disagrees with you. When asked that question, his one and only talking point was pass rush.

Originally posted by TheXFactor:

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:

I'll laugh if we go D-Line in the 1st round for the fourth year in a row.

Would have zero issue going after somebody who specializes in pass rush. Don't care about who we've drafted before. Pass rush is this team's #1 issue to address.

It's not even top 3.

Not #1 issue but definitely in the top 3. C and G definitely, will help our run game and protect Jimmy. Pass rusher will help our defense a lot and make our secondary look good. Better oline helps the running game so no need for RB, pass rusher will help the secondary. WR is a need but not of a big need because Jimmy makes average receivers look great.

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:
I'll laugh if we go D-Line in the 1st round for the fourth year in a row.

Would have zero issue going after somebody who specializes in pass rush. Don't care about who we've drafted before. Pass rush is this team's #1 issue to address.

It's not even top 3.

John Lynch disagrees with you. When asked that question, his one and only talking point was pass rush.

Yup. He couldn't have been more clear.

He may address it somehow in FA. But if he doesn't -- I wouldn't rule out a trade up for Bradley Chubb. That's especially true if our other most glaring need, CB, is addressed in FA.

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:

I'll laugh if we go D-Line in the 1st round for the fourth year in a row.

Would have zero issue going after somebody who specializes in pass rush. Don't care about who we've drafted before. Pass rush is this team's #1 issue to address.

It's not even top 3.

John Lynch disagrees with you. When asked that question, his one and only talking point was pass rush.

Yup. He couldn't have been more clear.

He may address it somehow in FA. But if he doesn't -- I wouldn't rule out a trade up for Bradley Chubb. That's especially true if our other most glaring need, CB, is addressed in FA.

I don't think they would trade up for Chubb but could definitely see them pick Harold Landry if Chubb is gone.

Originally posted by Alfienator:

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:
I'll laugh if we go D-Line in the 1st round for the fourth year in a row.

Would have zero issue going after somebody who specializes in pass rush. Don't care about who we've drafted before. Pass rush is this team's #1 issue to address.

It's not even top 3.

John Lynch disagrees with you. When asked that question, his one and only talking point was pass rush.

Yup. He couldn't have been more clear.

He may address it somehow in FA. But if he doesn't -- I wouldn't rule out a trade up for Bradley Chubb. That's especially true if our other most glaring need, CB, is addressed in FA.

I don't think they would trade up for Chubb but could definitely see them pick Harold Landry if Chubb is gone.

Agree with you -- very possible. I'm just saying I don't think it's off the table if other needs have been addressed in FA.

Originally posted by TheXFactor:

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:
I'll laugh if we go D-Line in the 1st round for the fourth year in a row.

Would have zero issue going after somebody who specializes in pass rush. Don't care about who we've drafted before. Pass rush is this team's #1 issue to address.

It's not even top 3.

huh? Lack of pass rush is the only thing keeping this defense from being top 10 IMO.

I can see a similar jump to what we saw from 2010 to 2011 on our defense if we find a legit pass rusher similar to Aldon(minus the off the field chit)

Improvements in the secondary and at the linebacker level during the offseason, guys heading into their 2nd year in the system and some guys getting healthy and with that rusher we can be legit.

Good pass rush makes the rest of the defense better. It's a huge need.

I want Lynch to take him early...he looks to have exactly what Saleh needs at the LEO position. Top flight pass rushers are hard to find...I get the calls for Nelson, Barkley, etc. But, both good OL, RB's are plentiful, elite PR aren't. Beyond his sacks, he had 22.5 TFL, that's huge. Given Saleh plans to play Thomas inside more, for me, Chubb's a no-brainer.