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Rascal · 2017-04-16T22:54:44-07:00

Pretty funny stuff right there.

Apr 17, 2017 at 9:51 AM

genus49
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
I would be perfectly fine with that. You move down 4 spots, still get a top elite talent to improve your defense that you might have drafted at #2 anyways and then you get another early 2nd round pick in a draft that is very deep.

#6 Hooker
#34 Charles Harris/Tyus Bowser/TJ Watt
#39 Evan Engram

Who says no?

Yeah I'd love a bounty of picks but assuming the board falls similar to what they had and we have a chance to chose between Thomas and Hooker at 6...that would be amazing considering I'd gladly take both players at 2.

Apr 17, 2017 at 10:14 AM

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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by theninermaniac:
Pretty awful if all we get is a 2nd round pick to move from 2 to 6.

I would be perfectly fine with that. You move down 4 spots, still get a top elite talent to improve your defense that you might have drafted at #2 anyways and then you get another early 2nd round pick in a draft that is very deep.

#6 Hooker
#34 Charles Harris/Tyus Bowser/TJ Watt
#39 Evan Engram

Who says no?

No!!!

We need a young WR more then a TE IMO

Apr 17, 2017 at 10:33 AM

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I like Solomon Thomas a lot. But if this were an actual offer and you're telling me my two options are .

Option 1: Solomon Thomas at 2

Option 2: Malik Hooker at 6 and a true Leo at 39

Then I take option 2 any day of the week.

Apr 17, 2017 at 10:42 AM

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Originally posted by okdkid:
People still listen to Bill Polian like he has a clue. The guy was gift wrapped one of the greatest QBs of all time and we're supposed to listen to his opinion on defensive tackles.

I mean he went to 3 SBs and won a s**t ton of games as the Bills GM and was the 1st GM for the panthers (was there for 3 seasons) and took them to a NFC championship their 2nd yr in the league.

He's been executive of the year 6 times and is a HOFer...dude knows his s**t lol.

Apr 17, 2017 at 10:44 AM

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Originally posted by tatdwolf49:
No!!! We need a young WR more then a TE IMO

You need receiving talent period. Engram is a pure move TE that could also line up at WR. He'd be a matchup problem everytime he was on the field.

Apr 17, 2017 at 10:45 AM

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Originally posted by tatdwolf49:
No!!! We need a young WR more then a TE IMO

Engram is basically a WR...235lbs, runs a 4.42, 33 1/2 inch arms

If Cory Davis falls I'm snagging him up in a second but engram is a beast though. Great chess piece.

Apr 17, 2017 at 10:46 AM

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Originally posted by NYniner85:
I mean he went to 3 SBs and won a s**t ton of games as the Bills GM and was the 1st GM for the panthers (was there for 3 seasons) and took them to a NFC championship their 2nd yr in the league.

He's been executive of the year 6 times and is a HOFer...dude knows his s**t lol.

People forget that before he joined the Colts he built those early 90s Bills juggernaut teams.

I do think that the game may have passed him up a bit. His early drafts with the Colts were generally good but his recent ones were generally terrible and the main reason why the team went into the crapper once Manning got injured.

Apr 17, 2017 at 10:46 AM

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Originally posted by GhostOfBaalke:
I like Solomon Thomas a lot. But if this were an actual offer and you're telling me my two options are .

Option 1: Solomon Thomas at 2

Option 2: Malik Hooker at 6 and a true Leo at 39

Then I take option 2 any day of the week.

What if Thomas was there at 6, which happened in this scenario

[ Edited by NYniner85 on Apr 17, 2017 at 10:47 AM ]

Apr 17, 2017 at 10:49 AM

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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
People forget that before he joined the Colts he built those early 90s Bills juggernaut teams.

I do think that the game may have passed him up a bit. His early drafts with the Colts were generally good but his recent ones were generally terrible and the main reason why the team went into the crapper once Manning got injured.

I'm not gonna throw out his evaluation of a player though....no one is right all the time that's for sure

Apr 17, 2017 at 10:49 AM

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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by GhostOfBaalke:
I like Solomon Thomas a lot. But if this were an actual offer and you're telling me my two options are .

Option 1: Solomon Thomas at 2

Option 2: Malik Hooker at 6 and a true Leo at 39

Then I take option 2 any day of the week.

What if Thomas was there at 6, which happened in this scenario

I love me some Solomon Thomas.

Thomas at 6, Leo at 34, DB or RB at 39 = boner alert

Apr 17, 2017 at 11:12 AM

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Originally posted by GhostOfBaalke:
I love me some Solomon Thomas.

Thomas at 6, Leo at 34, DB or RB at 39 = boner alert

Agreed

Apr 17, 2017 at 11:15 AM

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Hooker would be a dream at 6th with a high second.

Apr 17, 2017 at 11:53 AM

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genus49
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
You need receiving talent period. Engram is a pure move TE that could also line up at WR. He'd be a matchup problem everytime he was on the field.

This. The QB doesn't care whether a guy is a WR or TE as long as he's making plays and getting open.

Hell it'd be cheaper to re-sign a stud TE over a stud WR :)

Apr 17, 2017 at 11:56 AM

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Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
You need receiving talent period. Engram is a pure move TE that could also line up at WR. He'd be a matchup problem everytime he was on the field.

This. The QB doesn't care whether a guy is a WR or TE as long as he's making plays and getting open.

Hell it'd be cheaper to re-sign a stud TE over a stud WR :)

I'm not sure how a D covers him. The games that we could play with Juice and Engram would be fun to watch.

And did anyone order up a RZ threat?

If we have extra 2's, I'd love to have him. He's the only TE or WR that I think is a permanent walking mismatch.

Apr 17, 2017 at 1:01 PM

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Originally posted by GhostOfBaalke:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by GhostOfBaalke:
I like Solomon Thomas a lot. But if this were an actual offer and you're telling me my two options are .

Option 1: Solomon Thomas at 2

Option 2: Malik Hooker at 6 and a true Leo at 39

Then I take option 2 any day of the week.

What if Thomas was there at 6, which happened in this scenario

I love me some Solomon Thomas.

Thomas at 6, Leo at 34, DB or RB at 39 = boner alert

If you take Thomas at 6 and still have to take another, premiere (aka LEO), pass rusher at 34 then Thomas is a wasted pick.

Think about it this way, if we somehow got Garrett at #2 to play LEO, would we still be looking for an interior guy (like Thomas) at 34? No, of course not. We'd all know we're rolling into the season with Buckner, Armstead, and Mitchell on the interior.