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FL9er · 2017-04-07T16:09:16-07:00

I try to do this every year but haven't had any time. Here's Albert Breer confirming that the 49ers like Foster and Fournette; cue the vomiting emoticon from Heroism and a spamming of Fournette vids from Rascal. • WHO'S FALLING? From a talent standpoint, Alabama pass rusher Tim Williams is a Top 10 pick. I've heard him called a more explosive Bruce Irvin, and Irvin went 15th overall in 2013. But there's the drug issue (Williams admitted at the combine to failing tests in college), and the gun charge, and a real question as to whether or not he'll be able to grow past his problems. "He's up there with the top pure pass rushers," said one area scout assigned to the Tide. "The real question is his personality, and the trust factor with teams. The problems aren't rare, it's more whether the team can trust the person. Can he work through the problems? Is he smart enough to work through the problems?" Worth noting: Past personality issues with pass-rushers (Randy Gregory, Aldon Smith, Greg Hardy, Dion Jordan) aren't helping Williams. I'd be surprised if he goes in the first round. And he may fall further than that. • WHAT'S SAN FRANCISCO DOING? It's the most asked question I'm hearing from teams, and Stanford pass-rusher Solomon Thomas has long appeared to be the leader in the clubhouse to go No. 2 after Cleveland takes Texas A&M freak Myles Garrett off the board. But I'd be surprised if GM John Lynch doesn't make an effort to try and deal down and accumulate more draft capital. I've heard from a number of people that the Niners like Alabama LB Reuben Foster and LSU RB Leonard Fournette. • WILL THE BEARS TAKE A SAFETY? Word is the Bears like both LSU's Jamal Adams and Ohio State's Malik Hooker, who are widely considered two of the best safety prospects to come out of the college ranks in years. The problem? It's the idea of drafting a safety that high, and whether the impact will meet the price of the third pick in the draft. That would naturally make the Bears another candidate to at least explore trading down. • IS ANYONE LOOKING TO TRADE UP? As of right now, the ranks are thin, and for a couple reasons. First, the quarterbacks haven't built the momentum that Jared Goff and Carson Wentz did in 2016, and that position is usually a driver in major moves at the top of the first round. Second, as strong as this draft is, where it's strong it's also deep (receiver, tight end, corner, safety, edge rusher), so plenty of teams are thinking that the difference between, say, 5 and 15 or 10 and 20 isn't huge. • HOW WILL THE BACKS SHAKE OUT? I know a couple teams that like Dalvin Cook over Leonard Fournette, because of the 21st-century style of back Cook is. (It's similar to why the Colts took Edgerrin James over Ricky Williams a generation ago.) And there are teams that like Joe Mixon, as a player, more than Cook. Jaguars coach Doug Marrone said to me last week he wants a team that can run it when the opponent knows what's coming. So would Fournette be in play at 4? I'm hearing Mixon is likely to go in round two or three. Whenever he goes, it's a big and complex story. Add in Christian McCaffrey and Alvin Kamara, and this historic class of backs will be pretty compelling to watch when we get to Philly. • AND THE QUARTERBACKS? Remember, everyone believed the Jaguars were not taking a quarterback with the third pick in 2014. And then they did. So take that into account when I say that there's very little buzz for the quarterbacks inside the top few picks, with Buffalo at 10 (yes, even with Tyrod Taylor under contract) being the earliest selecting team being connected to the group. This one, of course, will evolve in the coming weeks. * * * ttp://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/04/06/richard-sherman-trade-talk-seattle-seahawks-nflpicks More to come. Others are free to add to the thread.

Apr 12, 2017 at 2:17 PM

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Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
I think they go defense and take a RB in the second/third. If Thomas/Allen go 2&3, I think Hooker/Adams will be the pick there to nearly complete their D. I'd go hooker first, pass rusher second and a RB in the third. Maybe trade up with their third to the second and take a bruiser like Foreman.

S is a possibility for them. I think they go Howard or Fournette though.

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Apr 12, 2017 at 2:24 PM

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Nick Wagoner‏Verified account @nwagoner 40s41 seconds agoMore
49ers GM John Lynch said "there has been some of that" when asked if he'd received some early calls about the No. 2 pick.

Apr 12, 2017 at 2:29 PM

#93

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Cam Inman‏Verified account @CamInman 49s50 seconds agoMore
#49ers John Lynch on dealing No. 2 pick: "We're open for business. We'll listen to anything. ... There's interest."

Apr 12, 2017 at 2:30 PM

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Mike Garafolo‏Verified account @MikeGarafolo 5m5 minutes agoMore
The worst kept secret in the league is no longer a secret. Niners will move out for the right price.

Apr 12, 2017 at 2:31 PM

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Originally posted by slowriot:
Mike Garafolo‏Verified account @MikeGarafolo 5m5 minutes agoMore
The worst kept secret in the league is no longer a secret. Niners will move out for the right price.

Oh my, really?

Just like how the Seahawks will trade Sherman for the right price, Browns will trade down for the right price...

You mean to say NFL teams do things for the right price? My goodness wow what breaking news!

Apr 12, 2017 at 2:33 PM

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Originally posted by slowriot:
Mike Garafolo‏Verified account @MikeGarafolo 5m5 minutes agoMore
The worst kept secret in the league is no longer a secret. Niners will move out for the right price.

No way they make a move before the draft just in case Browns don't select Myles..

Apr 12, 2017 at 2:34 PM

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Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by slowriot:
Mike Garafolo‏Verified account @MikeGarafolo 5m5 minutes agoMore
The worst kept secret in the league is no longer a secret. Niners will move out for the right price.

Oh my, really?

Just like how the Seahawks will trade Sherman for the right price, Browns will trade down for the right price...

You mean to say NFL teams do things for the right price? My goodness wow what breaking news!

Lol. Yeah but we both know Seahawks would want a retarded Hershel Walker type trade for Sherman and Browns would want a Ricky Williams type trade for the number one. Ours seems like the trade could work well for both sides without having to give up the farm.
We can go in different directions, that is not a secret. Other teams out there looking for a specific guy, is a secret.

Apr 12, 2017 at 2:36 PM

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Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by slowriot:
Mike Garafolo‏Verified account @MikeGarafolo 5m5 minutes agoMore
The worst kept secret in the league is no longer a secret. Niners will move out for the right price.

Oh my, really?

Just like how the Seahawks will trade Sherman for the right price, Browns will trade down for the right price...

You mean to say NFL teams do things for the right price? My goodness wow what breaking news!

Not sure what's worse, Garafolo bothering to tweet that, me bothering to copy and paste it into a forum, you bothering to comment, or me writing this right now

#predraftcrazies

Apr 12, 2017 at 2:38 PM

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Originally posted by slowriot:
Nick Wagoner‏Verified account @nwagoner 40s41 seconds agoMore
49ers GM John Lynch said "there has been some of that" when asked if he'd received some early calls about the No. 2 pick.

Hang up the phone if Garrett is there!!!

Apr 12, 2017 at 2:40 PM

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Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by slowriot:
Nick Wagoner‏Verified account @nwagoner 40s41 seconds agoMore
49ers GM John Lynch said "there has been some of that" when asked if he'd received some early calls about the No. 2 pick.

Hang up the phone if Garrett is there!!!

this. but that's the only way someone trades up.

Apr 12, 2017 at 2:42 PM

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Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by slowriot:
Nick Wagoner‏Verified account @nwagoner 40s41 seconds agoMore
49ers GM John Lynch said "there has been some of that" when asked if he'd received some early calls about the No. 2 pick.

Hang up the phone if Garrett is there!!!

I'm inclined to agree, but if SF is offered a package similar to what the Titans got from the Rams, you'd have to at least consider it.

Recap: Tennessee sent the top selection along with its fourth- (No. 113) and sixth-round (No. 177) picks this year to the Rams in exchange for Los Angeles' first-round pick (No. 15), two second-round selections (Nos. 43 and 45) and a third-round pick (No. 76) in 2016. The Titans also will get the Rams' first- and third-round picks in 2017.

Apr 12, 2017 at 2:47 PM

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#49ers GM John Lynch said the team has an asking price in mind to move down from the No. 2 pick. 'We're open for business.'
— Chris Biderman (@ChrisBiderman) April 12, 2017

I wonder what they are asking? And I agree you don't trade that pick until we're on the clock

Apr 12, 2017 at 2:53 PM

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Originally posted by NYniner85:
#49ers GM John Lynch said the team has an asking price in mind to move down from the No. 2 pick. 'We're open for business.'
— Chris Biderman (@ChrisBiderman) April 12, 2017

I wonder what they are asking? And I agree you don't trade that pick until we're on the clock

Could honestly see the browns move up to select Garrett and Mitch. Maybe as high as our #2 with the cache of second round picks they have over the next two years.

Apr 12, 2017 at 3:03 PM

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Originally posted by jcs:
Could honestly see the browns move up to select Garrett and Mitch. Maybe as high as our #2 with the cache of second round picks they have over the next two years.

If the Browns are willing to give up both their 2nd rounders this year I am down.

Give me Barnett, Bowser, Evan Engram and Curtis Samuel with the first 4 picks.

Apr 12, 2017 at 3:04 PM

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I feel like a team wanting to trade with us is going to want to pull the trigger before the draft.

So I doubt we get a chance to wait and see what th Browns do. The 2% chance Garrett is still available might be part of why teams are willing to offer quite a bit.