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FL9er · 2017-04-07T16:09:16-07:00

I try to do this every year but haven't had any time. Here's Albert Breer confirming that the 49ers like Foster and Fournette; cue the vomiting emoticon from Heroism and a spamming of Fournette vids from Rascal. • WHO'S FALLING? From a talent standpoint, Alabama pass rusher Tim Williams is a Top 10 pick. I've heard him called a more explosive Bruce Irvin, and Irvin went 15th overall in 2013. But there's the drug issue (Williams admitted at the combine to failing tests in college), and the gun charge, and a real question as to whether or not he'll be able to grow past his problems. "He's up there with the top pure pass rushers," said one area scout assigned to the Tide. "The real question is his personality, and the trust factor with teams. The problems aren't rare, it's more whether the team can trust the person. Can he work through the problems? Is he smart enough to work through the problems?" Worth noting: Past personality issues with pass-rushers (Randy Gregory, Aldon Smith, Greg Hardy, Dion Jordan) aren't helping Williams. I'd be surprised if he goes in the first round. And he may fall further than that. • WHAT'S SAN FRANCISCO DOING? It's the most asked question I'm hearing from teams, and Stanford pass-rusher Solomon Thomas has long appeared to be the leader in the clubhouse to go No. 2 after Cleveland takes Texas A&M freak Myles Garrett off the board. But I'd be surprised if GM John Lynch doesn't make an effort to try and deal down and accumulate more draft capital. I've heard from a number of people that the Niners like Alabama LB Reuben Foster and LSU RB Leonard Fournette. • WILL THE BEARS TAKE A SAFETY? Word is the Bears like both LSU's Jamal Adams and Ohio State's Malik Hooker, who are widely considered two of the best safety prospects to come out of the college ranks in years. The problem? It's the idea of drafting a safety that high, and whether the impact will meet the price of the third pick in the draft. That would naturally make the Bears another candidate to at least explore trading down. • IS ANYONE LOOKING TO TRADE UP? As of right now, the ranks are thin, and for a couple reasons. First, the quarterbacks haven't built the momentum that Jared Goff and Carson Wentz did in 2016, and that position is usually a driver in major moves at the top of the first round. Second, as strong as this draft is, where it's strong it's also deep (receiver, tight end, corner, safety, edge rusher), so plenty of teams are thinking that the difference between, say, 5 and 15 or 10 and 20 isn't huge. • HOW WILL THE BACKS SHAKE OUT? I know a couple teams that like Dalvin Cook over Leonard Fournette, because of the 21st-century style of back Cook is. (It's similar to why the Colts took Edgerrin James over Ricky Williams a generation ago.) And there are teams that like Joe Mixon, as a player, more than Cook. Jaguars coach Doug Marrone said to me last week he wants a team that can run it when the opponent knows what's coming. So would Fournette be in play at 4? I'm hearing Mixon is likely to go in round two or three. Whenever he goes, it's a big and complex story. Add in Christian McCaffrey and Alvin Kamara, and this historic class of backs will be pretty compelling to watch when we get to Philly. • AND THE QUARTERBACKS? Remember, everyone believed the Jaguars were not taking a quarterback with the third pick in 2014. And then they did. So take that into account when I say that there's very little buzz for the quarterbacks inside the top few picks, with Buffalo at 10 (yes, even with Tyrod Taylor under contract) being the earliest selecting team being connected to the group. This one, of course, will evolve in the coming weeks. * * * ttp://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/04/06/richard-sherman-trade-talk-seattle-seahawks-nflpicks More to come. Others are free to add to the thread.

Apr 28, 2017 at 2:46 PM

#4081

pete98146
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Originally posted by pahlerbj:
I'm thinking we are going to trade into the 2nd round with all the picks we have.

Round 3: Pick 2 (No. 66 overall)
Round 3: Pick 3 (No. 67 overall)
Round 4: Pick 2 (No. 109 overall)
Round 4: Pick 37 (No. 143 overall)
Round 5: Pick 2 (No. 146 overall)
Round 5: Pick 17 (No. 161 overall)
Round 6: Pick 2 (No. 186 overall)
Round 6: Pick 18 (No. 202 overall)
Round 7: Pick 1 (No. 219 overall)

I'd rather walk away with 3 or 4 studs then 8 or 9 mediocre players (ala Trent Baalke). I say trade up and grab some super stars! God knows this team needs them :) We are off to a good start. Let's continue.

Apr 28, 2017 at 2:46 PM

#4082

Wu-5Rings
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Originally posted by saniner:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by slowriot:
Michael Lombardi‏Verified account @mlombardiNFL 10m10 minutes agoMore

Niners TE Vance McDonald is available for trade, even though he just signed an extension last Dec. New coach, changes happen.

These guys aren't messing around!

Am I lying to you guys???

He wants his tight end..

Apr 28, 2017 at 2:47 PM

#4083

Wu-5Rings
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Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
You guys are forgetting!!!

Kyle likes his tight ends... Austin Hooper Helloooooo

Apr 28, 2017 at 2:48 PM

#4084

Andra
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I'm going to a faithfulista draft party at Levi's with my wife. Buba Paris is supposed to be there. I hope it's fun, I'm going to be pissed if I can't follow the action.

Apr 28, 2017 at 2:49 PM

#4085

Shifty
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Originally posted by slowriot:

Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:

Originally posted by slowriot:
Michael Lombardi‏Verified account @mlombardiNFL 10m10 minutes agoMore

Niners TE Vance McDonald is available for trade, even though he just signed an extension last Dec. New coach, changes happen.

Good move , dude is made out of glass like Hyde

It'll be hard to find a trade partner given his contract and the depth at TE this year

I'm thinking we would have to eat a nice chunk of that contract.

Apr 28, 2017 at 2:51 PM

#4086

49oz2superbowl
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Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by slowriot:
Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter 4m4 minutes agoMore

Chargers, Jets and Buccaneers amongst the teams calling Packers, interesting in trading up for top pick in second round, per source.

Kizer?

Bucs seems like an obvious Dalvin Cook trade... Jets/Chargers likely QB

Apr 28, 2017 at 2:52 PM

#4087

Kolohe
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Originally posted by slowriot:
Eric Galko‏Verified account @OptimumScouting 21s22 seconds agoMore

I said during Senior Bowl that Nathan Peterman could go before Deshone Kizer Don't think he will, but it wouldn't shock. Some like him more

I don't think Peterman goes before Kizer. But as it looks, I don't think Lynch and Shanahan are in a rush to get the QB situation figured out. I like it that they're taking their time with selecting and choosing their QB. I'm so glad they didn't buy into the Mahomes, Trubisky and Watson hype. They are taking the direction to build the 49ers the way I had hoped they would, sign a veteran, install Shanahan's offense for a season while rebuilding the defense.

Apr 28, 2017 at 2:53 PM

#4088

fropwns
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Originally posted by ChaunceyGardner:

Originally posted by fropwns:

Gotta have Sprinkles with your Froster

This dudes gets it.

Apr 28, 2017 at 2:57 PM

#4089

Niners418
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Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
Originally posted by saniner:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by slowriot:
Michael Lombardi‏Verified account @mlombardiNFL 10m10 minutes agoMore

Niners TE Vance McDonald is available for trade, even though he just signed an extension last Dec. New coach, changes happen.

These guys aren't messing around!

Am I lying to you guys???

He wants his tight end..

Wonder if that has anything to do with barnidge? Would love to sign him and add an athletic TE in the draft

Apr 28, 2017 at 2:58 PM

#4090

fropwns
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by slowriot:
Michael Lombardi‏Verified account @mlombardiNFL 10m10 minutes agoMore

Niners TE Vance McDonald is available for trade, even though he just signed an extension last Dec. New coach, changes happen.

And it is because he sucks and we should have drafted Hunter Henry last year. So, now, we got to go get some Sprinkles.

Apr 28, 2017 at 2:59 PM

#4091

Andra
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Originally posted by Niners418:
Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
Originally posted by saniner:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by slowriot:
Michael Lombardi‏Verified account @mlombardiNFL 10m10 minutes agoMore

Niners TE Vance McDonald is available for trade, even though he just signed an extension last Dec. New coach, changes happen.

These guys aren't messing around!

Am I lying to you guys???

He wants his tight end..

Wonder if that has anything to do with barnidge? Would love to sign him and add an athletic TE in the draft

I'm hoping that they are wanting to draft Bucky Hodges.

Apr 28, 2017 at 3:00 PM

#4092

Wu-5Rings
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Originally posted by Niners418:
Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
Originally posted by saniner:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by slowriot:
Michael Lombardi‏Verified account @mlombardiNFL 10m10 minutes agoMore

Niners TE Vance McDonald is available for trade, even though he just signed an extension last Dec. New coach, changes happen.

These guys aren't messing around!

Am I lying to you guys???

He wants his tight end..

Wonder if that has anything to do with barnidge? Would love to sign him and add an athletic TE in the draft

I bet Shanny will take him and have Lynch draft one if they going offense?

Remember Shanny uses multiple tight ends and different formations when we get the pieces?

We cant get everything in this draft. Alot of options its going to be interesting but it looks like Lynch is starting to get Shanny's foundation, which is his tight ends.

Remember Jacob Tamme and Austin Hooper was part of Julio Jones, Gabriel, freeman and the other running back's offense.. He loves his multiple tight end sets.

Thats when the falcons became a serious threat on offense..

[ Edited by Wu-5Rings on Apr 28, 2017 at 3:07 PM ]

Apr 28, 2017 at 3:02 PM

#4093

NYniner85
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Originally posted by slowriot:
Michael Lombardi‏Verified account @mlombardiNFL 10m10 minutes agoMore

Niners TE Vance McDonald is available for trade, even though he just signed an extension last Dec. New coach, changes happen.

Bummer...not sure we'd get much I think he's upside is worth more than a 6th

Apr 28, 2017 at 3:07 PM

#4094

Fanaticofnfl
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by slowriot:
Michael Lombardi‏Verified account @mlombardiNFL 10m10 minutes agoMore

Niners TE Vance McDonald is available for trade, even though he just signed an extension last Dec. New coach, changes happen.

Well...

Looks like we're drafting a TE...

Apr 28, 2017 at 3:08 PM

#4095

Butter
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What are the chances the Niners trade up for Peterman? Im torn. The Niners have a LOT of needs. If there is a chance the Niners are able to get Cousins next year, maybe they're better off waiting.

If Petermen falls to their 3rd, pull the trigger. If not, bank on Cousins, or possible trade up in next years draft. Worst case scenario, roll the dice on Kaaya in the 4th. He could be a low cost developmental QB.