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FL9er · 2017-04-07T16:09:16-07:00

I try to do this every year but haven't had any time. Here's Albert Breer confirming that the 49ers like Foster and Fournette; cue the vomiting emoticon from Heroism and a spamming of Fournette vids from Rascal. • WHO'S FALLING? From a talent standpoint, Alabama pass rusher Tim Williams is a Top 10 pick. I've heard him called a more explosive Bruce Irvin, and Irvin went 15th overall in 2013. But there's the drug issue (Williams admitted at the combine to failing tests in college), and the gun charge, and a real question as to whether or not he'll be able to grow past his problems. "He's up there with the top pure pass rushers," said one area scout assigned to the Tide. "The real question is his personality, and the trust factor with teams. The problems aren't rare, it's more whether the team can trust the person. Can he work through the problems? Is he smart enough to work through the problems?" Worth noting: Past personality issues with pass-rushers (Randy Gregory, Aldon Smith, Greg Hardy, Dion Jordan) aren't helping Williams. I'd be surprised if he goes in the first round. And he may fall further than that. • WHAT'S SAN FRANCISCO DOING? It's the most asked question I'm hearing from teams, and Stanford pass-rusher Solomon Thomas has long appeared to be the leader in the clubhouse to go No. 2 after Cleveland takes Texas A&M freak Myles Garrett off the board. But I'd be surprised if GM John Lynch doesn't make an effort to try and deal down and accumulate more draft capital. I've heard from a number of people that the Niners like Alabama LB Reuben Foster and LSU RB Leonard Fournette. • WILL THE BEARS TAKE A SAFETY? Word is the Bears like both LSU's Jamal Adams and Ohio State's Malik Hooker, who are widely considered two of the best safety prospects to come out of the college ranks in years. The problem? It's the idea of drafting a safety that high, and whether the impact will meet the price of the third pick in the draft. That would naturally make the Bears another candidate to at least explore trading down. • IS ANYONE LOOKING TO TRADE UP? As of right now, the ranks are thin, and for a couple reasons. First, the quarterbacks haven't built the momentum that Jared Goff and Carson Wentz did in 2016, and that position is usually a driver in major moves at the top of the first round. Second, as strong as this draft is, where it's strong it's also deep (receiver, tight end, corner, safety, edge rusher), so plenty of teams are thinking that the difference between, say, 5 and 15 or 10 and 20 isn't huge. • HOW WILL THE BACKS SHAKE OUT? I know a couple teams that like Dalvin Cook over Leonard Fournette, because of the 21st-century style of back Cook is. (It's similar to why the Colts took Edgerrin James over Ricky Williams a generation ago.) And there are teams that like Joe Mixon, as a player, more than Cook. Jaguars coach Doug Marrone said to me last week he wants a team that can run it when the opponent knows what's coming. So would Fournette be in play at 4? I'm hearing Mixon is likely to go in round two or three. Whenever he goes, it's a big and complex story. Add in Christian McCaffrey and Alvin Kamara, and this historic class of backs will be pretty compelling to watch when we get to Philly. • AND THE QUARTERBACKS? Remember, everyone believed the Jaguars were not taking a quarterback with the third pick in 2014. And then they did. So take that into account when I say that there's very little buzz for the quarterbacks inside the top few picks, with Buffalo at 10 (yes, even with Tyrod Taylor under contract) being the earliest selecting team being connected to the group. This one, of course, will evolve in the coming weeks. * * * ttp://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/04/06/richard-sherman-trade-talk-seattle-seahawks-nflpicks More to come. Others are free to add to the thread.

Apr 28, 2017 at 3:29 PM

#4111

GMniner805
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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by GMniner805:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by slowriot:
Michael Lombardi‏Verified account @mlombardiNFL 10m10 minutes agoMore

Niners TE Vance McDonald is available for trade, even though he just signed an extension last Dec. New coach, changes happen.

Bummer...not sure we'd get much I think he's upside is worth more than a 6th

I'd rather just keep him

Not with his current contract

Yeah but they have more than enough money to absorb it. He's definitely flawed, but he showed some good stuff last year and I thought he could be a weapon in Shannahans system.....but I guess KS feels otherwise lol

Totally understand, big fast target in the passing game. You would think KS would want to see what he has there, must just be the contract.

Apr 28, 2017 at 3:33 PM

#4112

Lobo49er
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Originally posted by slowriot:
Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter 3m3 minutes agoMore

Giants tried to trade up for for QB Patrick Mahomes and were "very disappointed" they weren't able to get it done, per @AnitaMarks.

Should've called us, so sit in your disappointment and enjoy it.

Apr 28, 2017 at 3:33 PM

#4113

pete98146
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Originally posted by strickac:
If Budda Baker sits there much longer, one of those 3rds will be used to trade up for him.

That other one is for Bucky. He's my TE crush.

Alternates: Carl Lawson (trade up) or Tim Williams.

Yes!!!! Give me Budda!

Apr 28, 2017 at 3:38 PM

#4114

strickac
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Originally posted by pete98146:
Originally posted by strickac:
If Budda Baker sits there much longer, one of those 3rds will be used to trade up for him.

That other one is for Bucky. He's my TE crush.

Alternates: Carl Lawson (trade up) or Tim Williams.

Yes!!!! Give me Budda!

Great range and a beast in run support. He's the closest thing to Earl Thomas in this draft, not Hooker

Apr 28, 2017 at 3:56 PM

#4115

slowriot
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Ian Rapoport‏Verified account @RapSheet 17s17 seconds agoMore

With as many as 11 teams needing QB, expect at least these passers to go tonight: Davis Webb, DeShone Kizer, Nate Peterman, Josh Dobbs.

Apr 28, 2017 at 4:05 PM

#4116

crew
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Originally posted by strickac:
If Budda Baker sits there much longer, one of those 3rds will be used to trade up for him.

That other one is for Bucky. He's my TE crush.

Alternates: Carl Lawson (trade up) or Tim Williams.

Those 4 would be my list of possible targets as well for a trade-up. Throw in Everett as well with Hodges.

Apr 28, 2017 at 4:12 PM

#4117

Kolohe
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Originally posted by slowriot:
Ian Rapoport‏Verified account @RapSheet 17s17 seconds agoMore

With as many as 11 teams needing QB, expect at least these passers to go tonight: Davis Webb, DeShone Kizer, Nate Peterman, Josh Dobbs.

Thank you Obvious, Captain.

Apr 28, 2017 at 4:20 PM

#4118

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Am I the only one who hopes we get Dobbs? Hopefully it is tomorrow or us trading back into late 3rd round. Not sure with either of our current picks though.

Apr 28, 2017 at 4:23 PM

#4119

Lobo49er
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Don't want Dobbs. Would rather have Evans.

Apr 28, 2017 at 4:26 PM

#4120

ninerfan4life
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Seahawks gonna go qb here?

Apr 28, 2017 at 4:27 PM

#4121

ChaunceyGardner
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Originally posted by sam0ah:
McDonald a smokescreen?

A TE

Apr 28, 2017 at 4:27 PM

#4122

ChaunceyGardner
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Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Seahawks gonna go qb here?

The Seahawk forums must be melting down

Apr 28, 2017 at 6:59 PM

#4123

strickac
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Originally posted by ChaunceyGardner:
Originally posted by sam0ah:
McDonald a smokescreen?

A TE

Yep, he's our TE, not a smokescreen

Apr 28, 2017 at 7:01 PM

#4124

ComeOnDeberg
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Originally posted by Ernst82:
Am I the only one who hopes we get Dobbs? Hopefully it is tomorrow or us trading back into late 3rd round. Not sure with either of our current picks though.

Yes

Apr 28, 2017 at 7:08 PM

#4125

49AllTheTime
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so thats it