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FL9er · 2017-04-07T16:09:16-07:00

I try to do this every year but haven't had any time. Here's Albert Breer confirming that the 49ers like Foster and Fournette; cue the vomiting emoticon from Heroism and a spamming of Fournette vids from Rascal. • WHO'S FALLING? From a talent standpoint, Alabama pass rusher Tim Williams is a Top 10 pick. I've heard him called a more explosive Bruce Irvin, and Irvin went 15th overall in 2013. But there's the drug issue (Williams admitted at the combine to failing tests in college), and the gun charge, and a real question as to whether or not he'll be able to grow past his problems. "He's up there with the top pure pass rushers," said one area scout assigned to the Tide. "The real question is his personality, and the trust factor with teams. The problems aren't rare, it's more whether the team can trust the person. Can he work through the problems? Is he smart enough to work through the problems?" Worth noting: Past personality issues with pass-rushers (Randy Gregory, Aldon Smith, Greg Hardy, Dion Jordan) aren't helping Williams. I'd be surprised if he goes in the first round. And he may fall further than that. • WHAT'S SAN FRANCISCO DOING? It's the most asked question I'm hearing from teams, and Stanford pass-rusher Solomon Thomas has long appeared to be the leader in the clubhouse to go No. 2 after Cleveland takes Texas A&M freak Myles Garrett off the board. But I'd be surprised if GM John Lynch doesn't make an effort to try and deal down and accumulate more draft capital. I've heard from a number of people that the Niners like Alabama LB Reuben Foster and LSU RB Leonard Fournette. • WILL THE BEARS TAKE A SAFETY? Word is the Bears like both LSU's Jamal Adams and Ohio State's Malik Hooker, who are widely considered two of the best safety prospects to come out of the college ranks in years. The problem? It's the idea of drafting a safety that high, and whether the impact will meet the price of the third pick in the draft. That would naturally make the Bears another candidate to at least explore trading down. • IS ANYONE LOOKING TO TRADE UP? As of right now, the ranks are thin, and for a couple reasons. First, the quarterbacks haven't built the momentum that Jared Goff and Carson Wentz did in 2016, and that position is usually a driver in major moves at the top of the first round. Second, as strong as this draft is, where it's strong it's also deep (receiver, tight end, corner, safety, edge rusher), so plenty of teams are thinking that the difference between, say, 5 and 15 or 10 and 20 isn't huge. • HOW WILL THE BACKS SHAKE OUT? I know a couple teams that like Dalvin Cook over Leonard Fournette, because of the 21st-century style of back Cook is. (It's similar to why the Colts took Edgerrin James over Ricky Williams a generation ago.) And there are teams that like Joe Mixon, as a player, more than Cook. Jaguars coach Doug Marrone said to me last week he wants a team that can run it when the opponent knows what's coming. So would Fournette be in play at 4? I'm hearing Mixon is likely to go in round two or three. Whenever he goes, it's a big and complex story. Add in Christian McCaffrey and Alvin Kamara, and this historic class of backs will be pretty compelling to watch when we get to Philly. • AND THE QUARTERBACKS? Remember, everyone believed the Jaguars were not taking a quarterback with the third pick in 2014. And then they did. So take that into account when I say that there's very little buzz for the quarterbacks inside the top few picks, with Buffalo at 10 (yes, even with Tyrod Taylor under contract) being the earliest selecting team being connected to the group. This one, of course, will evolve in the coming weeks. * * * ttp://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/04/06/richard-sherman-trade-talk-seattle-seahawks-nflpicks More to come. Others are free to add to the thread.

Apr 27, 2017 at 2:16 PM

#3541

Phoenix49ers
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Originally posted by nj9er:
If I had to guess 6 teams- Jets, Bears, Houston, Buffalo, Browns, and Panthers

Bills, Jets, Panthers, Bears, Bengals, Browns.

Apr 27, 2017 at 2:16 PM

#3542

Ninerfan84
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
My concern is that we will be taken for bad trade.

Can't really be taken for a bad trade, you get the best offer you can and go with it. With Lynch, Mayhew, Peters and Shanahan I don't see anyone putting one over on the 49ers. They'll do fine. People just need to keep their expectations realistic. The 49ers won't be getting back Eagles or Rams style compensation, that only happens when there are truly elite QB prospects, none of the guys this year qualify.

Not so sure about that.. It could just be chatter but that's a lot of teams. If Cleve is really willing to part with their high picks that would be our winner.

Apr 27, 2017 at 2:16 PM

#3543

Fanaticofnfl
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No to the Bears. I want something more than a bottle of soda.

Apr 27, 2017 at 2:17 PM

#3544

saniner
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Schefter confirmed Garrett #1.

Time to look at all trade options!

Apr 27, 2017 at 2:17 PM

#3545

mayo49
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Originally posted by dmax:

Originally posted by smithgdwg:
So if we take Trubiski at #2 will people be upset?
Yes

They might get mad, but we have to seriously consider it.

Apr 27, 2017 at 2:17 PM

#3546

MeddlingKids
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Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
My concern is that we will be taken for bad trade.

As long as we don't let Vlade Divac make a guest appearance in our war room to execute a trade, we should be ok.

Apr 27, 2017 at 2:17 PM

#3547

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Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
true but people might bite on trubisky if theyre desperate enough

Don't see anyone being that desperate for Trubisky, Watson or Mahomes. Good QB prospects but not elite ones.

There are teams who are no doubt interested in moving up for a QB but they won't be giving up anything close to what Philly and LA gave up last year.

Apr 27, 2017 at 2:17 PM

#3548

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Originally posted by Ninerfan84:
Not so sure about that.. It could just be chatter but that's a lot of teams. If Cleve is really willing to part with their high picks that would be our winner.

I'm fine with letting the Browns have their cake and eating it too. It's not like they play in our conference.

As long as we get a fair offer, of course.

Apr 27, 2017 at 2:18 PM

#3549

nj9er
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Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
My concern is that we will be taken for bad trade.

Roger Goodell: "The San Francisco 49ers have traded the #2 overall pick to the New England Patriots for a box of cookies. With the second pick in the NFL draft..."

What type of cookies is the question, because if they try to pawn some crappy oatmeal raisins off on us and try to tell us they are chocolate chips I will personally kidnap Tom Brady and hold him hostage until we get some m'fn chocolate chips.

Apr 27, 2017 at 2:18 PM

#3550

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I think The Jaguars, Bears, and (of course) the Browns are all set to be dumpster fires w/a shot at the #1 overall pick next year. Any trade down that secures on of those #1 picks would give the 49ers the flexibility to wait for Cousins next year, since the pick could get them the top QB in 2018 if Cousins isn't a 49er.

Apr 27, 2017 at 2:18 PM

#3551

SofaKing
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Originally posted by dmax:

Originally posted by smithgdwg:
So if we take Trubiski at #2 will people be upset?
Yes

I would not be upset, but a little disappointed because I prefer going with another player and targeting a QB later. I don't see Trubisky as a clearly superior prospect to the other QBs.

Apr 27, 2017 at 2:18 PM

#3552

ComeOnDeberg
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Ok. so..which one happens

Trade, Fournette, Adams, Thomas

Apr 27, 2017 at 2:18 PM

#3553

RonMexico
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Originally posted by saniner:
Schefter confirmed Garrett #1.

Time to look at all trade options!

it's still the browns

nothing is set in stone

Apr 27, 2017 at 2:19 PM

#3554

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Originally posted by Ninerfan84:
Not so sure about that.. It could just be chatter but that's a lot of teams. If Cleve is really willing to part with their high picks that would be our winner.

And all those teams are looking to move up for a variety of prospects, not one particular prospect, that is why there won't be a ton of value attached to the pick. You have teams that could be looking to move up for Thomas, Fournette, Adams, Trubisky, Watson, Mahomes, McCaffrey....etc but if they can't get a fair deal from the 49ers they will just go to the next team on the list...rinse and repeat.

Apr 27, 2017 at 2:20 PM

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If the Browns are really trying to get our #2 pick, then they are probably telling any other teams wanting that spot also, what they, ( the Browns) are going to pay to move up, ( as in lying ), our FO on the other hand is probably doing more if not the same.....they ought to sell tickets to be able to sit inside a teams war room during a actual draft