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FL9er · 2017-04-07T16:09:16-07:00

I try to do this every year but haven't had any time. Here's Albert Breer confirming that the 49ers like Foster and Fournette; cue the vomiting emoticon from Heroism and a spamming of Fournette vids from Rascal. • WHO'S FALLING? From a talent standpoint, Alabama pass rusher Tim Williams is a Top 10 pick. I've heard him called a more explosive Bruce Irvin, and Irvin went 15th overall in 2013. But there's the drug issue (Williams admitted at the combine to failing tests in college), and the gun charge, and a real question as to whether or not he'll be able to grow past his problems. "He's up there with the top pure pass rushers," said one area scout assigned to the Tide. "The real question is his personality, and the trust factor with teams. The problems aren't rare, it's more whether the team can trust the person. Can he work through the problems? Is he smart enough to work through the problems?" Worth noting: Past personality issues with pass-rushers (Randy Gregory, Aldon Smith, Greg Hardy, Dion Jordan) aren't helping Williams. I'd be surprised if he goes in the first round. And he may fall further than that. • WHAT'S SAN FRANCISCO DOING? It's the most asked question I'm hearing from teams, and Stanford pass-rusher Solomon Thomas has long appeared to be the leader in the clubhouse to go No. 2 after Cleveland takes Texas A&M freak Myles Garrett off the board. But I'd be surprised if GM John Lynch doesn't make an effort to try and deal down and accumulate more draft capital. I've heard from a number of people that the Niners like Alabama LB Reuben Foster and LSU RB Leonard Fournette. • WILL THE BEARS TAKE A SAFETY? Word is the Bears like both LSU's Jamal Adams and Ohio State's Malik Hooker, who are widely considered two of the best safety prospects to come out of the college ranks in years. The problem? It's the idea of drafting a safety that high, and whether the impact will meet the price of the third pick in the draft. That would naturally make the Bears another candidate to at least explore trading down. • IS ANYONE LOOKING TO TRADE UP? As of right now, the ranks are thin, and for a couple reasons. First, the quarterbacks haven't built the momentum that Jared Goff and Carson Wentz did in 2016, and that position is usually a driver in major moves at the top of the first round. Second, as strong as this draft is, where it's strong it's also deep (receiver, tight end, corner, safety, edge rusher), so plenty of teams are thinking that the difference between, say, 5 and 15 or 10 and 20 isn't huge. • HOW WILL THE BACKS SHAKE OUT? I know a couple teams that like Dalvin Cook over Leonard Fournette, because of the 21st-century style of back Cook is. (It's similar to why the Colts took Edgerrin James over Ricky Williams a generation ago.) And there are teams that like Joe Mixon, as a player, more than Cook. Jaguars coach Doug Marrone said to me last week he wants a team that can run it when the opponent knows what's coming. So would Fournette be in play at 4? I'm hearing Mixon is likely to go in round two or three. Whenever he goes, it's a big and complex story. Add in Christian McCaffrey and Alvin Kamara, and this historic class of backs will be pretty compelling to watch when we get to Philly. • AND THE QUARTERBACKS? Remember, everyone believed the Jaguars were not taking a quarterback with the third pick in 2014. And then they did. So take that into account when I say that there's very little buzz for the quarterbacks inside the top few picks, with Buffalo at 10 (yes, even with Tyrod Taylor under contract) being the earliest selecting team being connected to the group. This one, of course, will evolve in the coming weeks. * * * ttp://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/04/06/richard-sherman-trade-talk-seattle-seahawks-nflpicks More to come. Others are free to add to the thread.

Apr 27, 2017 at 1:44 PM

#3451

Heroism
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
She is Cleveland Maiocco.

Like I said earlier this morning. 1. Garrett, 2. Adams, 3. Thomas......saving y'all some time.

This is exactly how I see it, too.

Apr 27, 2017 at 1:45 PM

#3452

ComeOnDeberg
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Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by Predator85:
My guess is Jets trade with us to grab Trubisky/Watson. They get their FQB, reshirt him for a couple years, when he's ready, Brady and maybe Bellichick is on the outs.

What do the Jets have to offer?

Hackenberg

Apr 27, 2017 at 1:45 PM

#3453

FredFlintstone
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Trade back get reddick, Davis, hooker or mcaffrey

Apr 27, 2017 at 1:45 PM

#3454

mayo49
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Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
She is Cleveland Maiocco.

Like I said earlier this morning. 1. Garrett, 2. Adams, 3. Thomas......saving y'all some time.

Cut it out, Phoenix, it's not funny.

He is probably right you know....

Yeah, I know.

Apr 27, 2017 at 1:45 PM

#3455

GoldenJoe
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Garrett will get out of there a few years from now, only Joe Thomas was gullible enough to stay there.

Apr 27, 2017 at 1:45 PM

#3456

Phoenix49ers
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Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
What do the Jets have to offer?

Hookers.

Apr 27, 2017 at 1:46 PM

#3457

NYniner85
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Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by Predator85:
My guess is Jets trade with us to grab Trubisky/Watson. They get their FQB, reshirt him for a couple years, when he's ready, Brady and maybe Bellichick is on the outs.

What do the Jets have to offer?

They have 1st, 2nd, two 3rds, 5th, 6th, 7th.

I'd take their 1st, 2nd, and late 3rd and something next yr

Apr 27, 2017 at 1:46 PM

#3458

ComeOnDeberg
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Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
She is Cleveland Maiocco.

Like I said earlier this morning. 1. Garrett, 2. Adams, 3. Thomas......saving y'all some time.

This is exactly how I see it, too.

4. Fournette

Apr 27, 2017 at 1:46 PM

#3459

SofaKing
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Dang is Mary Kay that reliable? She's been saying Garrett this whole time and so have I but Maiocco just tweeted he needs to redo his mock lol

She is Cleveland Maiocco.

Like I said earlier this morning. 1. Garrett, 2. Adams, 3. Thomas......saving y'all some time.

Yup, that ends the speculation for me. Mary Kay Cabot is very reliable. Oh well, always considered Garrett to be a long shot anyways. Still plenty of good, impact players available to choose from whether we stay at 2 or trade down.

Apr 27, 2017 at 1:46 PM

#3460

NYniner85
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Originally posted by GoldenJoe:
Garrett will get out of there a few years from now, only Joe Thomas was gullible enough to stay there.

He will be a cowboy at some pt

Apr 27, 2017 at 1:46 PM

#3461

Phoenix49ers
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
They have 1st, 2nd, two 3rds, 5th, 6th, 7th.

I'd take their 1st, 2nd, and late 3rd and something next yr

If it the trade down happened it would likely be for their 2nd and a future 5th or 6th, something like that.

Apr 27, 2017 at 1:47 PM

#3462

mayo49
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I wouldn't mind a trade down to the 5th pick or so and target Fournette.

Apr 27, 2017 at 1:48 PM

#3463

ComeOnDeberg
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
They have 1st, 2nd, two 3rds, 5th, 6th, 7th.

I'd take their 1st, 2nd, and late 3rd and something next yr

If it the trade down happened it would likely be for their 2nd and a future 5th or 6th, something like that.

From 2 to 6??

Apr 27, 2017 at 1:49 PM

#3464

Phoenix49ers
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Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
4. Fournette

Most likely.

Apr 27, 2017 at 1:50 PM

#3465

dj43
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Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by jreff22:
Same should be said for Thomas at 2

Huh? DL is worlds more important than a SS it's not even close. A DB has never been drafted at two a s**t ton of DL have

I don't disagree on the history, however, as this becomes even more passing oriented, DBs take on greater value. Rule changes change positional value.