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FL9er · 2017-04-07T16:09:16-07:00

I try to do this every year but haven't had any time. Here's Albert Breer confirming that the 49ers like Foster and Fournette; cue the vomiting emoticon from Heroism and a spamming of Fournette vids from Rascal. • WHO'S FALLING? From a talent standpoint, Alabama pass rusher Tim Williams is a Top 10 pick. I've heard him called a more explosive Bruce Irvin, and Irvin went 15th overall in 2013. But there's the drug issue (Williams admitted at the combine to failing tests in college), and the gun charge, and a real question as to whether or not he'll be able to grow past his problems. "He's up there with the top pure pass rushers," said one area scout assigned to the Tide. "The real question is his personality, and the trust factor with teams. The problems aren't rare, it's more whether the team can trust the person. Can he work through the problems? Is he smart enough to work through the problems?" Worth noting: Past personality issues with pass-rushers (Randy Gregory, Aldon Smith, Greg Hardy, Dion Jordan) aren't helping Williams. I'd be surprised if he goes in the first round. And he may fall further than that. • WHAT'S SAN FRANCISCO DOING? It's the most asked question I'm hearing from teams, and Stanford pass-rusher Solomon Thomas has long appeared to be the leader in the clubhouse to go No. 2 after Cleveland takes Texas A&M freak Myles Garrett off the board. But I'd be surprised if GM John Lynch doesn't make an effort to try and deal down and accumulate more draft capital. I've heard from a number of people that the Niners like Alabama LB Reuben Foster and LSU RB Leonard Fournette. • WILL THE BEARS TAKE A SAFETY? Word is the Bears like both LSU's Jamal Adams and Ohio State's Malik Hooker, who are widely considered two of the best safety prospects to come out of the college ranks in years. The problem? It's the idea of drafting a safety that high, and whether the impact will meet the price of the third pick in the draft. That would naturally make the Bears another candidate to at least explore trading down. • IS ANYONE LOOKING TO TRADE UP? As of right now, the ranks are thin, and for a couple reasons. First, the quarterbacks haven't built the momentum that Jared Goff and Carson Wentz did in 2016, and that position is usually a driver in major moves at the top of the first round. Second, as strong as this draft is, where it's strong it's also deep (receiver, tight end, corner, safety, edge rusher), so plenty of teams are thinking that the difference between, say, 5 and 15 or 10 and 20 isn't huge. • HOW WILL THE BACKS SHAKE OUT? I know a couple teams that like Dalvin Cook over Leonard Fournette, because of the 21st-century style of back Cook is. (It's similar to why the Colts took Edgerrin James over Ricky Williams a generation ago.) And there are teams that like Joe Mixon, as a player, more than Cook. Jaguars coach Doug Marrone said to me last week he wants a team that can run it when the opponent knows what's coming. So would Fournette be in play at 4? I'm hearing Mixon is likely to go in round two or three. Whenever he goes, it's a big and complex story. Add in Christian McCaffrey and Alvin Kamara, and this historic class of backs will be pretty compelling to watch when we get to Philly. • AND THE QUARTERBACKS? Remember, everyone believed the Jaguars were not taking a quarterback with the third pick in 2014. And then they did. So take that into account when I say that there's very little buzz for the quarterbacks inside the top few picks, with Buffalo at 10 (yes, even with Tyrod Taylor under contract) being the earliest selecting team being connected to the group. This one, of course, will evolve in the coming weeks. * * * ttp://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/04/06/richard-sherman-trade-talk-seattle-seahawks-nflpicks More to come. Others are free to add to the thread.

Apr 26, 2017 at 12:37 PM

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saniner
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Anyone covering the 49ers right now:

Apr 26, 2017 at 12:38 PM

#2372

gold49er2183
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Its funny every single media person is tweeting every possibility so they look like they know something once the draft starts. "And I called this pick a week ago when...." You also called five other players at that pick.

Apr 26, 2017 at 12:39 PM

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9ergang42
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Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

Rumor has it Einhorn is Finkle....Finkle is Einhorn.....Einhorn is a man!!!!!

Pass

That's personal business and I thank you for not asking

Apr 26, 2017 at 12:41 PM

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midrdan
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Originally posted by 49erInTheMidwest:
Originally posted by genus49:
I'm watching Draft Day to get myself hyped up.

Hopefully Cleveland is watching too and thinking Garrett is Bo Callahan.

Pretty sure nobody came to Myles' 21st bday party.

I made this joke awhile back, none of these members are as comedic as us I guess

Their GM has had a little note in his pocket since February that says "Myles Garrett no matter what"

Apr 26, 2017 at 12:42 PM

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midrdan
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
Originally posted by GhostOfBaalke:
It's funny how fans of teams always envision their drafts going so amazing. Solomon Thomas at 12? Yea right lmao

Yea they are smoking good stuff if they think Soloman gets past Chicago but yea they are not buying the Trubisky smoke.

I mean how many times has the browns fan base been let down lol...if they do pass on Mitch and he turns in a wentz type season peace out FO and Hue lol

Didn't even see this when I posted. Lol

Apr 26, 2017 at 12:42 PM

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dmax
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Couldn't a deal be done with CLEVELAND if we picked trubinsky and they picked garrett

Apr 26, 2017 at 12:43 PM

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jreff22
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Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

I can now update my report: The Browns have spoken with at least 5 teams with picks in the top 8 about possibility of moving up from 12
— Michael Silver (@MikeSilver) April 26, 2017

Sounds like they realize they can go Garret and maybe get Trubisky as well. They have to really ask - would we take Trubisky? and the best part - nobody knows! Shanahan may love the kid. lol

We can trade the pick to somebody else that does. That is what they dont know.

Apr 26, 2017 at 12:43 PM

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Originally posted by genus49:
Could shock everyone and go with a kicker.

Zane Gonzalez will be automatic from 65 yards out. Stop that, I dare ya!

Apr 26, 2017 at 12:43 PM

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Originally posted by saniner:
Originally posted by NorthBay49er:
Source: 49ers interested in Trubisky. Is No. 2 too rich? Maybe but they want a franchise QB. Also going through potential trade scenarios.
— Steve Wyche (@wyche89) April 26, 2017

Maybe? Maybe not. Other possibility? Looking at all scenarios.

Quick, let me cover all options!

He was at JL's presser Monday so he's not really saying anything Lynch already didn't say

Apr 26, 2017 at 12:44 PM

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Sounds like the Bears and Browns have the best shot at trading up to #2. Bears because they are only 1 spot behind and don' have to give up as much as other teams and Cleveland because they can give up more.

Apr 26, 2017 at 12:46 PM

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Hysterikal
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I'm gonna give my best guess as to what will happen. The 49ers will draft someone from college.

Apr 26, 2017 at 12:46 PM

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Wu-5Rings
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Originally posted by 9ergang42:
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

Rumor has it Einhorn is Finkle....Finkle is Einhorn.....Einhorn is a man!!!!!

Pass
That's personal business and I thank you for not asking

Laces out?

It went over your head..

[ Edited by Wu-5Rings on Apr 26, 2017 at 12:50 PM ]

Apr 26, 2017 at 12:46 PM

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slowriot
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Remember the 2000 draft when CLE took can't-miss pass rush prospect Courtney Brown? I'm not saying that Garrett will bust, just making an observation. Brown's career was largely curtailed by injury.

Courtney Brown: 6'4⅞" 271-pounds, ran a 4.52 forty, had a vertical leap of 37" and bench-pressed 225 pounds 26 times.
Myles Garrett: 6'4" 272-pounds, ran a 4.64 forty, had a vertical leap of 41" and bench-pressed 225 pounds 33 times.

A couple of other interesting parallels to the 2000 draft.

Jamal Lewis: 6'0" 240-pounds, ran a 4.58 forty
Leonard Fournette: 6'0" 240-pounds, ran a 4.51 forty

There was no surefire top QB either (although Tom Brady went in the 6th - he's been servicable) - Chad Pennington was the first one taken at pick 18.

Okay, I clearly have a bad case of pre-draftarrhea

Apr 26, 2017 at 12:47 PM

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Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
Sounds like the Bears and Browns have the best shot at trading up to #2. Bears because they are only 1 spot behind and don' have to give up as much as other teams and Cleveland because they can give up more.

Who do the Bears want? I assume they swap 1 and we get their2? I would do that in a heart beat.

Apr 26, 2017 at 12:49 PM

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tankle104
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I would love to trade Back if Garrett falls to us. We could trade back and pick up picks and still get who we want. Whoever it is that they want.

I still hope it's Watson