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FL9er · 2017-04-07T16:09:16-07:00

I try to do this every year but haven't had any time. Here's Albert Breer confirming that the 49ers like Foster and Fournette; cue the vomiting emoticon from Heroism and a spamming of Fournette vids from Rascal. • WHO'S FALLING? From a talent standpoint, Alabama pass rusher Tim Williams is a Top 10 pick. I've heard him called a more explosive Bruce Irvin, and Irvin went 15th overall in 2013. But there's the drug issue (Williams admitted at the combine to failing tests in college), and the gun charge, and a real question as to whether or not he'll be able to grow past his problems. "He's up there with the top pure pass rushers," said one area scout assigned to the Tide. "The real question is his personality, and the trust factor with teams. The problems aren't rare, it's more whether the team can trust the person. Can he work through the problems? Is he smart enough to work through the problems?" Worth noting: Past personality issues with pass-rushers (Randy Gregory, Aldon Smith, Greg Hardy, Dion Jordan) aren't helping Williams. I'd be surprised if he goes in the first round. And he may fall further than that. • WHAT'S SAN FRANCISCO DOING? It's the most asked question I'm hearing from teams, and Stanford pass-rusher Solomon Thomas has long appeared to be the leader in the clubhouse to go No. 2 after Cleveland takes Texas A&M freak Myles Garrett off the board. But I'd be surprised if GM John Lynch doesn't make an effort to try and deal down and accumulate more draft capital. I've heard from a number of people that the Niners like Alabama LB Reuben Foster and LSU RB Leonard Fournette. • WILL THE BEARS TAKE A SAFETY? Word is the Bears like both LSU's Jamal Adams and Ohio State's Malik Hooker, who are widely considered two of the best safety prospects to come out of the college ranks in years. The problem? It's the idea of drafting a safety that high, and whether the impact will meet the price of the third pick in the draft. That would naturally make the Bears another candidate to at least explore trading down. • IS ANYONE LOOKING TO TRADE UP? As of right now, the ranks are thin, and for a couple reasons. First, the quarterbacks haven't built the momentum that Jared Goff and Carson Wentz did in 2016, and that position is usually a driver in major moves at the top of the first round. Second, as strong as this draft is, where it's strong it's also deep (receiver, tight end, corner, safety, edge rusher), so plenty of teams are thinking that the difference between, say, 5 and 15 or 10 and 20 isn't huge. • HOW WILL THE BACKS SHAKE OUT? I know a couple teams that like Dalvin Cook over Leonard Fournette, because of the 21st-century style of back Cook is. (It's similar to why the Colts took Edgerrin James over Ricky Williams a generation ago.) And there are teams that like Joe Mixon, as a player, more than Cook. Jaguars coach Doug Marrone said to me last week he wants a team that can run it when the opponent knows what's coming. So would Fournette be in play at 4? I'm hearing Mixon is likely to go in round two or three. Whenever he goes, it's a big and complex story. Add in Christian McCaffrey and Alvin Kamara, and this historic class of backs will be pretty compelling to watch when we get to Philly. • AND THE QUARTERBACKS? Remember, everyone believed the Jaguars were not taking a quarterback with the third pick in 2014. And then they did. So take that into account when I say that there's very little buzz for the quarterbacks inside the top few picks, with Buffalo at 10 (yes, even with Tyrod Taylor under contract) being the earliest selecting team being connected to the group. This one, of course, will evolve in the coming weeks. * * * ttp://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/04/06/richard-sherman-trade-talk-seattle-seahawks-nflpicks More to come. Others are free to add to the thread.

Apr 26, 2017 at 12:19 PM

#2356

Cisco0623
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Sounds like they realize they can go Garret and maybe get Trubisky as well. They have to really ask - would we take Trubisky? and the best part - nobody knows! Shanahan may love the kid. lol

So pay the 49ers and get it over with b***hes.

Here is the the thing. What if our board is Garret Trubisky. We may tell hem, sorry we would only accept Garret otherwise we are draft Mitch etc. I also agree, why trade - lets see what Cleveland is doing first. We could have a handshake in place, but the other team would totally understand if the Browns pass on Garrett sorry, hes our guy etc.

Apr 26, 2017 at 12:19 PM

#2357

WINiner
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Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
Greg Gabriel is now saying we might take Fournette. This guy is a yoyo.

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/sports/Fournette-Could-be-49ers-Secret-Target-at-No-2-420494643.html

So, if Myles and Fournette are there, who do you take?

That's a hands down no brainer for this team imo. I would be furious as a fan if they took Fournette over Myles.

Apr 26, 2017 at 12:20 PM

#2358

slowriot
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Jed doing his bit to help facilitate a trade with CLE:

At this moment, the draft is Jed York's oyster, but the 49ers CEO, longing to finally get it right with someone not named Harbaugh, is wary that San Francisco won't make it back to the Big Game without a pearl at the game's most important position.

"You need to get the best players, wherever they are, whatever you need to do, you need to find the best players," York told NFL Network's Steve Wyche at the 49ers facility on Wednesday. "It's proven that if you don't have a superstar quarterback, you're probably not getting to the Super Bowland you're probably not winning a Super Bowl."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000802780/article/niners-interested-in-trubisky-ceo-york-values-position

Apr 26, 2017 at 12:22 PM

#2359

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Originally posted by slowriot:
Jed doing his bit to help facilitate a trade with CLE:

At this moment, the draft is Jed York's oyster, but the 49ers CEO, longing to finally get it right with someone not named Harbaugh, is wary that San Francisco won't make it back to the Big Game without a pearl at the game's most important position.

"You need to get the best players, wherever they are, whatever you need to do, you need to find the best players," York told NFL Network's Steve Wyche at the 49ers facility on Wednesday. "It's proven that if you don't have a superstar quarterback, you're probably not getting to the Super Bowland you're probably not winning a Super Bowl."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000802780/article/niners-interested-in-trubisky-ceo-york-values-position

Soooooo that Kaepernick Fella......

[ Edited by krizay on Apr 26, 2017 at 12:23 PM ]

Apr 26, 2017 at 12:23 PM

#2360

genus49
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Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Absolute groundbreaking discovery! This changes everything!!

Could shock everyone and go with a kicker.

Apr 26, 2017 at 12:24 PM

#2361

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Originally posted by NYniner85:
I don't think Mitch will be there at 5 to take

I hope he isn't so the Browns plan backfires. I don't want to hear analysts gushing the entire draft about what a great job the Browns have done. Particularly since history has shown even solid Browns decisions don't lead to anything productive.

Apr 26, 2017 at 12:25 PM

#2362

Kolohe
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
I mean how many times has the browns fan base been let down lol...if they do pass on Mitch and he turns in a wentz type season peace out FO and Hue lol

I couldn't agree more. If I'm the Browns you go the best QB in the draft and turn it in. Last years draft was a disaster, I'm not really talking about the picks they chose but the direction they went from the get-go. Trading that #2 pick while two of the top QB's were on the board was a bad bad....bad idea. This is probably one of the best drafts to load up on defense, there will be a lot of time to build the defense....take your franchise QB before it's too late, shoot take two of them you got the picks to do it.

Apr 26, 2017 at 12:25 PM

#2363

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Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

I can now update my report: The Browns have spoken with at least 5 teams with picks in the top 8 about possibility of moving up from 12
— Michael Silver (@MikeSilver) April 26, 2017

Sounds like they realize they can go Garret and maybe get Trubisky as well. They have to really ask - would we take Trubisky? and the best part - nobody knows! Shanahan may love the kid. lol

We are in a win-win situation.

They take Trubisky? We take Garrett.
They take Garrett? We can take any player we want at 2 even Trubisky, if they like him, or if trading is top priority so be it.

So of course ESPN, we won't know what to do until Cleveland picks.

Apr 26, 2017 at 12:27 PM

#2364

Fanaticofnfl
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Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Dude I saw him say it on ESPN about an hr ago (on lunch break) he was talking to Herm Edwards and Mark Dominik...what ya think I'm lying?

I'm not making smokescreens for the webzone or whatever lol.

I don't necessarily think you're lying. I'm just saying if it were a big deal I'd see other people talking about it.

Maybe you heard it incorrectly and it's two or three reliable sources "speculating" that Trubisky COULD be the pick?

Oh? Then why the "Nice try" to end your post?

I think you're overanalyzing my post a little bit much lol.

I meant "nice try" as in nice try getting the board excited over a "story" that will very likely amount to nothing and had hardly picked up steam at the time.

I think everyone needs to realize that if the Browns by some miracle pass on Garrett, and we draft him, I will be happily happily HAPPILY eat crow. I just don't see it happening.

Apr 26, 2017 at 12:27 PM

#2365

Cisco0623
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Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

I can now update my report: The Browns have spoken with at least 5 teams with picks in the top 8 about possibility of moving up from 12
— Michael Silver (@MikeSilver) April 26, 2017

Sounds like they realize they can go Garret and maybe get Trubisky as well. They have to really ask - would we take Trubisky? and the best part - nobody knows! Shanahan may love the kid. lol

We are in a win-win situation.

They take Trubisky? We take Garrett.
They take Garrett? We can take any player we want at 2 even Trubisky, if they like him, or if trading is top priority so be it.

So of course ESPN, we won't know what to do until Cleveland picks.

exactly. I am curious if Shanahan thinks Trubisky is the real deal.

Apr 26, 2017 at 12:29 PM

#2366

genus49
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Originally posted by Cisco0623:
exactly. I am curious if Shanahan thinks Trubisky is the real deal.

The fact that Hue Jackson is in the Myles Garrett camp leads me to think Shanahan would share the same thoughts but who knows.

Just a little over 30 hours until we find out.

Apr 26, 2017 at 12:31 PM

#2367

Wu-5Rings
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Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Absolute groundbreaking discovery! This changes everything!!

Could shock everyone and go with a kicker.

Apr 26, 2017 at 12:33 PM

#2368

NorthBay49er
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Source: 49ers interested in Trubisky. Is No. 2 too rich? Maybe but they want a franchise QB. Also going through potential trade scenarios.
— Steve Wyche (@wyche89) April 26, 2017

Apr 26, 2017 at 12:35 PM

#2369

SofaKing
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Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

Rumor has it Einhorn is Finkle....Finkle is Einhorn.....Einhorn is a man!!!!!

Pass

Apr 26, 2017 at 12:35 PM

#2370

saniner
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Originally posted by NorthBay49er:
Source: 49ers interested in Trubisky. Is No. 2 too rich? Maybe but they want a franchise QB. Also going through potential trade scenarios.
— Steve Wyche (@wyche89) April 26, 2017

Maybe? Maybe not. Other possibility? Looking at all scenarios.

Quick, let me cover all options!