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FL9er · 2017-04-07T16:09:16-07:00

I try to do this every year but haven't had any time. Here's Albert Breer confirming that the 49ers like Foster and Fournette; cue the vomiting emoticon from Heroism and a spamming of Fournette vids from Rascal. • WHO'S FALLING? From a talent standpoint, Alabama pass rusher Tim Williams is a Top 10 pick. I've heard him called a more explosive Bruce Irvin, and Irvin went 15th overall in 2013. But there's the drug issue (Williams admitted at the combine to failing tests in college), and the gun charge, and a real question as to whether or not he'll be able to grow past his problems. "He's up there with the top pure pass rushers," said one area scout assigned to the Tide. "The real question is his personality, and the trust factor with teams. The problems aren't rare, it's more whether the team can trust the person. Can he work through the problems? Is he smart enough to work through the problems?" Worth noting: Past personality issues with pass-rushers (Randy Gregory, Aldon Smith, Greg Hardy, Dion Jordan) aren't helping Williams. I'd be surprised if he goes in the first round. And he may fall further than that. • WHAT'S SAN FRANCISCO DOING? It's the most asked question I'm hearing from teams, and Stanford pass-rusher Solomon Thomas has long appeared to be the leader in the clubhouse to go No. 2 after Cleveland takes Texas A&M freak Myles Garrett off the board. But I'd be surprised if GM John Lynch doesn't make an effort to try and deal down and accumulate more draft capital. I've heard from a number of people that the Niners like Alabama LB Reuben Foster and LSU RB Leonard Fournette. • WILL THE BEARS TAKE A SAFETY? Word is the Bears like both LSU's Jamal Adams and Ohio State's Malik Hooker, who are widely considered two of the best safety prospects to come out of the college ranks in years. The problem? It's the idea of drafting a safety that high, and whether the impact will meet the price of the third pick in the draft. That would naturally make the Bears another candidate to at least explore trading down. • IS ANYONE LOOKING TO TRADE UP? As of right now, the ranks are thin, and for a couple reasons. First, the quarterbacks haven't built the momentum that Jared Goff and Carson Wentz did in 2016, and that position is usually a driver in major moves at the top of the first round. Second, as strong as this draft is, where it's strong it's also deep (receiver, tight end, corner, safety, edge rusher), so plenty of teams are thinking that the difference between, say, 5 and 15 or 10 and 20 isn't huge. • HOW WILL THE BACKS SHAKE OUT? I know a couple teams that like Dalvin Cook over Leonard Fournette, because of the 21st-century style of back Cook is. (It's similar to why the Colts took Edgerrin James over Ricky Williams a generation ago.) And there are teams that like Joe Mixon, as a player, more than Cook. Jaguars coach Doug Marrone said to me last week he wants a team that can run it when the opponent knows what's coming. So would Fournette be in play at 4? I'm hearing Mixon is likely to go in round two or three. Whenever he goes, it's a big and complex story. Add in Christian McCaffrey and Alvin Kamara, and this historic class of backs will be pretty compelling to watch when we get to Philly. • AND THE QUARTERBACKS? Remember, everyone believed the Jaguars were not taking a quarterback with the third pick in 2014. And then they did. So take that into account when I say that there's very little buzz for the quarterbacks inside the top few picks, with Buffalo at 10 (yes, even with Tyrod Taylor under contract) being the earliest selecting team being connected to the group. This one, of course, will evolve in the coming weeks. * * * ttp://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/04/06/richard-sherman-trade-talk-seattle-seahawks-nflpicks More to come. Others are free to add to the thread.

Apr 26, 2017 at 11:54 AM

#2326

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Originally posted by ChaunceyGardner:
Everyone getting laid off at ESPN today, Ed Werder & Trent Dilfer gone

Trent Dilfer can go visit Baalke at his remote North Dakota cabin now.

Apr 26, 2017 at 11:55 AM

#2327

saniner
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So if I'm reading all the information right, the 49ers aren't leaking anything, yet are linked to just about every prospect and trade scenario...im gonna go ahead and say nobody has any scoop on them at this point. I just hope they move down from either 2 or 34 to get more early picks.

Apr 26, 2017 at 11:56 AM

#2328

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James Conner is a warrior, I tip my hat off to you young man and rooting for ya!

Apr 26, 2017 at 11:57 AM

#2329

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Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
James Conner is a warrior, I tip my hat off to you young man and rooting for ya!

This.

Apr 26, 2017 at 11:58 AM

#2330

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Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:

Originally posted by GhostOfBaalke:
What are they saying over in the browns forums and blogs ??

Myles No Matter What.

Apr 26, 2017 at 11:58 AM

#2331

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Originally posted by saniner:
So if I'm reading all the information right, the 49ers aren't leaking anything, yet are linked to just about every prospect and trade scenario...im gonna go ahead and say nobody has any scoop on them at this point. I just hope they move down from either 2 or 34 to get more early picks.

Especially since the main guy to be "leaking" stuff lately is some former bears scout trying to get his name out there as a reporter. It's a slimeball trick to get more followers on twitter.

Apr 26, 2017 at 11:59 AM

#2332

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Originally posted by genus49:
I'm watching Draft Day to get myself hyped up.

Hopefully Cleveland is watching too and thinking Garrett is Bo Callahan.

Pretty sure nobody came to Myles' 21st bday party.

I made this joke awhile back, none of these members are as comedic as us I guess

Apr 26, 2017 at 12:01 PM

#2333

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Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
Myles No Matter What.

It's funny how fans of teams always envision their drafts going so amazing. Solomon Thomas at 12? Yea right lmao

Apr 26, 2017 at 12:01 PM

#2334

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Last draft both Philly and St.Louis moved up in the draft on like a Monday/Tuesday. I don't think any team is going to trade up with us. Which sucks as we're probably just going to concede the BPA and miss out on a franchise QB that Chicago and the rest of the crap teams like us will get before the 34th.

Apr 26, 2017 at 12:02 PM

#2335

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Niner draft notes on NFL Live in couple minutes

Apr 26, 2017 at 12:03 PM

#2336

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Originally posted by awp8912:
Last draft both Philly and St.Louis moved up in the draft on like a Monday/Tuesday. I don't think any team is going to trade up with us. Which sucks as we're probably just going to concede the BPA and miss out on a franchise QB that Chicago and the rest of the crap teams like us will get before the 34th.

There won't be any trade until browns make the 1st pick unless they're trading up from 12.

I'm sure niners are gonna need to see if Myles is still there at 2 before trading it away. And if a team is moving up for Mitch, they're obviously gonna need to wait and see if browns take him at 1 before trading everything away for him.

Apr 26, 2017 at 12:08 PM

#2337

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Originally posted by GhostOfBaalke:
It's funny how fans of teams always envision their drafts going so amazing. Solomon Thomas at 12? Yea right lmao

Yea they are smoking good stuff if they think Soloman gets past Chicago but yea they are not buying the Trubisky smoke.

Apr 26, 2017 at 12:09 PM

#2338

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Originally posted by awp8912:
Last draft both Philly and St.Louis moved up in the draft on like a Monday/Tuesday. I don't think any team is going to trade up with us. Which sucks as we're probably just going to concede the BPA and miss out on a franchise QB that Chicago and the rest of the crap teams like us will get before the 34th.

If there was a sure fire FQB he would go 1 overall to the browns....SF might not want to trade the 2nd pick because they could very well like Mitch or the browns could go Mitch over Myles

Apr 26, 2017 at 12:09 PM

#2339

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I think the Browns take MG @1.
I don't think the Browns front office will offer enough to get our pick but in the end I think they trade with the Titans @5 and get MT.

Apr 26, 2017 at 12:10 PM

#2340

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Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
Originally posted by GhostOfBaalke:
It's funny how fans of teams always envision their drafts going so amazing. Solomon Thomas at 12? Yea right lmao

Yea they are smoking good stuff if they think Soloman gets past Chicago but yea they are not buying the Trubisky smoke.

I mean how many times has the browns fan base been let down lol...if they do pass on Mitch and he turns in a wentz type season peace out FO and Hue lol