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FL9er · 2017-04-07T16:09:16-07:00

I try to do this every year but haven't had any time. Here's Albert Breer confirming that the 49ers like Foster and Fournette; cue the vomiting emoticon from Heroism and a spamming of Fournette vids from Rascal. • WHO'S FALLING? From a talent standpoint, Alabama pass rusher Tim Williams is a Top 10 pick. I've heard him called a more explosive Bruce Irvin, and Irvin went 15th overall in 2013. But there's the drug issue (Williams admitted at the combine to failing tests in college), and the gun charge, and a real question as to whether or not he'll be able to grow past his problems. "He's up there with the top pure pass rushers," said one area scout assigned to the Tide. "The real question is his personality, and the trust factor with teams. The problems aren't rare, it's more whether the team can trust the person. Can he work through the problems? Is he smart enough to work through the problems?" Worth noting: Past personality issues with pass-rushers (Randy Gregory, Aldon Smith, Greg Hardy, Dion Jordan) aren't helping Williams. I'd be surprised if he goes in the first round. And he may fall further than that. • WHAT'S SAN FRANCISCO DOING? It's the most asked question I'm hearing from teams, and Stanford pass-rusher Solomon Thomas has long appeared to be the leader in the clubhouse to go No. 2 after Cleveland takes Texas A&M freak Myles Garrett off the board. But I'd be surprised if GM John Lynch doesn't make an effort to try and deal down and accumulate more draft capital. I've heard from a number of people that the Niners like Alabama LB Reuben Foster and LSU RB Leonard Fournette. • WILL THE BEARS TAKE A SAFETY? Word is the Bears like both LSU's Jamal Adams and Ohio State's Malik Hooker, who are widely considered two of the best safety prospects to come out of the college ranks in years. The problem? It's the idea of drafting a safety that high, and whether the impact will meet the price of the third pick in the draft. That would naturally make the Bears another candidate to at least explore trading down. • IS ANYONE LOOKING TO TRADE UP? As of right now, the ranks are thin, and for a couple reasons. First, the quarterbacks haven't built the momentum that Jared Goff and Carson Wentz did in 2016, and that position is usually a driver in major moves at the top of the first round. Second, as strong as this draft is, where it's strong it's also deep (receiver, tight end, corner, safety, edge rusher), so plenty of teams are thinking that the difference between, say, 5 and 15 or 10 and 20 isn't huge. • HOW WILL THE BACKS SHAKE OUT? I know a couple teams that like Dalvin Cook over Leonard Fournette, because of the 21st-century style of back Cook is. (It's similar to why the Colts took Edgerrin James over Ricky Williams a generation ago.) And there are teams that like Joe Mixon, as a player, more than Cook. Jaguars coach Doug Marrone said to me last week he wants a team that can run it when the opponent knows what's coming. So would Fournette be in play at 4? I'm hearing Mixon is likely to go in round two or three. Whenever he goes, it's a big and complex story. Add in Christian McCaffrey and Alvin Kamara, and this historic class of backs will be pretty compelling to watch when we get to Philly. • AND THE QUARTERBACKS? Remember, everyone believed the Jaguars were not taking a quarterback with the third pick in 2014. And then they did. So take that into account when I say that there's very little buzz for the quarterbacks inside the top few picks, with Buffalo at 10 (yes, even with Tyrod Taylor under contract) being the earliest selecting team being connected to the group. This one, of course, will evolve in the coming weeks. * * * ttp://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/04/06/richard-sherman-trade-talk-seattle-seahawks-nflpicks More to come. Others are free to add to the thread.

Apr 13, 2017 at 3:53 PM

#166

Willisfn4life
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Originally posted by MadDog49er:
I see three in the top 12 picks: Trubisky at 6, Mahomes at 7, Watson at 12.

Trubisky at 6 I definitely agree with. If he's sitting there still, I picture the Chargers going with Hooker. With Gus Bradley there, he'll want a guy at free with some range to him.

[ Edited by Willisfn4life on Apr 13, 2017 at 3:56 PM ]

Apr 13, 2017 at 4:04 PM

#167

LifelongNiner
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
Replying to @Rotoworld_Draft
Told Hue Jackson wants Myles Garrett but the front office wants a QB

http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2017/4/12/15269844/schefter-browns-not-decided-at-no-1-between-myles-garrett-and-mitch-trubisky

LOL. Like I've said all along, whomever the Browns draft guarantees our pick will be the far better player.

If this is true, so much for Hue being comfortable (recalling his press conference when he was hired) with the F.O.

Apr 13, 2017 at 4:06 PM

#168

NinerBuff
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Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
Replying to @Rotoworld_Draft
Told Hue Jackson wants Myles Garrett but the front office wants a QB

http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2017/4/12/15269844/schefter-browns-not-decided-at-no-1-between-myles-garrett-and-mitch-trubisky

LOL. Like I've said all along, whomever the Browns draft guarantees our pick will be the far better player.

If this is true, so much for Hue being comfortable (recalling his press conference when he was hired) with the F.O.

The FO forcing the issue and drafting a QB has never gone badly

(except every single time)

Apr 13, 2017 at 4:15 PM

#169

Willisfn4life
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Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
Replying to @Rotoworld_Draft
Told Hue Jackson wants Myles Garrett but the front office wants a QB

http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2017/4/12/15269844/schefter-browns-not-decided-at-no-1-between-myles-garrett-and-mitch-trubisky

LOL. Like I've said all along, whomever the Browns draft guarantees our pick will be the far better player.

If this is true, so much for Hue being comfortable (recalling his press conference when he was hired) with the F.O.

The FO forcing the issue and drafting a QB has never gone badly (except every single time)

https://youtu.be/wsEwK69LXjQ

Apr 13, 2017 at 4:19 PM

#170

NYniner85
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Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
Replying to @Rotoworld_Draft
Told Hue Jackson wants Myles Garrett but the front office wants a QB

http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2017/4/12/15269844/schefter-browns-not-decided-at-no-1-between-myles-garrett-and-mitch-trubisky

LOL. Like I've said all along, whomever the Browns draft guarantees our pick will be the far better player.

If this is true, so much for Hue being comfortable (recalling his press conference when he was hired) with the F.O.

The FO forcing the issue and drafting a QB has never gone badly (except every single time)

Lol right...I will say what happens if they pass on Mitch and he throws out a Carson wentz type of rookie yr? That's two QBs they passed on that could have been their franchise guy. That's just as bad as drafting a bust imo. Hue throws out another 2-14 type of season he's gonna kiss any chance of being a HC goodbye.

Just draft the qb Cleveland

Apr 13, 2017 at 5:50 PM

#171

SmokeCrabtrees
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
Replying to @Rotoworld_Draft
Told Hue Jackson wants Myles Garrett but the front office wants a QB

http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2017/4/12/15269844/schefter-browns-not-decided-at-no-1-between-myles-garrett-and-mitch-trubisky

LOL. Like I've said all along, whomever the Browns draft guarantees our pick will be the far better player.

If this is true, so much for Hue being comfortable (recalling his press conference when he was hired) with the F.O.

The FO forcing the issue and drafting a QB has never gone badly (except every single time)

Lol right...I will say what happens if they pass on Mitch and he throws out a Carson wentz type of rookie yr? That's two QBs they passed on that could have been their franchise guy. That's just as bad as drafting a bust imo. Hue throws out another 2-14 type of season he's gonna kiss any chance of being a HC goodbye.

Just draft the qb Cleveland

Rock in a hard place.. don't be greedy Browns, you can have both Garrett and Trubisky. Pay up for the #2 or kiss Trubisky goodbye and watch Jets or Bears snag him up.

Apr 13, 2017 at 11:45 PM

#172

Tylerawiseguy
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matt miller of nfl draft scout that the 49ers loved leonard fournette at the combine and that they still love him and he heard the other day that the 49ers draft board is 1. myles garrett 2. Rueben foster 3. leonard fournette 4. marshon Lattimore 5. malik hooker that has to tell you something if its true . if this is true who do you guys think the 49ers would pick if they stayed at the 2nd pick ?

Apr 13, 2017 at 11:47 PM

#173

adrianlesnar
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If it's true, then Imma go out on a limb and say that at #2 they take #2 on their big board and go foster, assuming number 1 on their big board is gone of course

Apr 13, 2017 at 11:51 PM

#174

SmokeCrabtrees
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Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
If it's true, then Imma go out on a limb and say that at #2 they take #2 on their big board and go foster, assuming number 1 on their big board is gone of course

Imagine trading down and taking McAff. That'd be one hell of s curve ball lol.

Apr 13, 2017 at 11:52 PM

#175

JaggedJ
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Don't buy that at all.

We may be interested in them all, we might like them all, but to say with absolute certainty that they are 1-5. Yeah not buying it.

Apr 14, 2017 at 12:05 AM

#176

Quest4six
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lol this is bs and I can tell from having Foster above everyone but Garrett

Apr 14, 2017 at 12:25 AM

#177

mayo49
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Fixed.

1. myles garrett
2. leonard fournette
3. malik hooker
4. Rueben foster
5. marshon Lattimore

Apr 14, 2017 at 12:25 AM

#178

tatdwolf49
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OMG not you again with this BS

Apr 14, 2017 at 12:32 AM

#179

Phoenix49ers
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I like Matt Miller but this is BS. At this point in time pretty much no one has their draft boards set and teams are still conducting player workouts and visits.

Apr 14, 2017 at 1:28 AM

#180

martysofresh
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I can't imagine Jamaal Adams not being in there top 5. He's a top 5 player if talking BPA. I'm a Foster fan but he dropped on my board after the combine. A lot of these guys arnt worth #2 for us. It's gotta be a guy that's gonna be around and compete from day 1.