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FL9er · 2017-04-07T16:09:16-07:00

I try to do this every year but haven't had any time. Here's Albert Breer confirming that the 49ers like Foster and Fournette; cue the vomiting emoticon from Heroism and a spamming of Fournette vids from Rascal. • WHO'S FALLING? From a talent standpoint, Alabama pass rusher Tim Williams is a Top 10 pick. I've heard him called a more explosive Bruce Irvin, and Irvin went 15th overall in 2013. But there's the drug issue (Williams admitted at the combine to failing tests in college), and the gun charge, and a real question as to whether or not he'll be able to grow past his problems. "He's up there with the top pure pass rushers," said one area scout assigned to the Tide. "The real question is his personality, and the trust factor with teams. The problems aren't rare, it's more whether the team can trust the person. Can he work through the problems? Is he smart enough to work through the problems?" Worth noting: Past personality issues with pass-rushers (Randy Gregory, Aldon Smith, Greg Hardy, Dion Jordan) aren't helping Williams. I'd be surprised if he goes in the first round. And he may fall further than that. • WHAT'S SAN FRANCISCO DOING? It's the most asked question I'm hearing from teams, and Stanford pass-rusher Solomon Thomas has long appeared to be the leader in the clubhouse to go No. 2 after Cleveland takes Texas A&M freak Myles Garrett off the board. But I'd be surprised if GM John Lynch doesn't make an effort to try and deal down and accumulate more draft capital. I've heard from a number of people that the Niners like Alabama LB Reuben Foster and LSU RB Leonard Fournette. • WILL THE BEARS TAKE A SAFETY? Word is the Bears like both LSU's Jamal Adams and Ohio State's Malik Hooker, who are widely considered two of the best safety prospects to come out of the college ranks in years. The problem? It's the idea of drafting a safety that high, and whether the impact will meet the price of the third pick in the draft. That would naturally make the Bears another candidate to at least explore trading down. • IS ANYONE LOOKING TO TRADE UP? As of right now, the ranks are thin, and for a couple reasons. First, the quarterbacks haven't built the momentum that Jared Goff and Carson Wentz did in 2016, and that position is usually a driver in major moves at the top of the first round. Second, as strong as this draft is, where it's strong it's also deep (receiver, tight end, corner, safety, edge rusher), so plenty of teams are thinking that the difference between, say, 5 and 15 or 10 and 20 isn't huge. • HOW WILL THE BACKS SHAKE OUT? I know a couple teams that like Dalvin Cook over Leonard Fournette, because of the 21st-century style of back Cook is. (It's similar to why the Colts took Edgerrin James over Ricky Williams a generation ago.) And there are teams that like Joe Mixon, as a player, more than Cook. Jaguars coach Doug Marrone said to me last week he wants a team that can run it when the opponent knows what's coming. So would Fournette be in play at 4? I'm hearing Mixon is likely to go in round two or three. Whenever he goes, it's a big and complex story. Add in Christian McCaffrey and Alvin Kamara, and this historic class of backs will be pretty compelling to watch when we get to Philly. • AND THE QUARTERBACKS? Remember, everyone believed the Jaguars were not taking a quarterback with the third pick in 2014. And then they did. So take that into account when I say that there's very little buzz for the quarterbacks inside the top few picks, with Buffalo at 10 (yes, even with Tyrod Taylor under contract) being the earliest selecting team being connected to the group. This one, of course, will evolve in the coming weeks. * * * ttp://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/04/06/richard-sherman-trade-talk-seattle-seahawks-nflpicks More to come. Others are free to add to the thread.

Apr 14, 2017 at 1:30 AM

#181

JaggedJ
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
I like Matt Miller but this is BS. At this point in time pretty much no one has their draft boards set and teams are still conducting player workouts and visits.

No doubt about it, but if we draft differently he can always hide behind the "that was two weeks ago, things change" line.

Manufactured news.

Apr 14, 2017 at 1:37 AM

#182

krizay
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Originally posted by Quest4six:
lol this is bs and I can tell from having Foster above everyone but Garrett

And why is that? Because people on the board don't like foster due to his combine departure?

I said before foster is a beast at a position of need. In a draft class not deep at the position.

We want to stop the run and build an attacking defense. He would be a nice start.

Seattle can do what they do in large part because of Wagner and that line stopping the run. We need that Wagner. Our line up the middle is already ahead of SEA's on paper. Need the LB's and edge rushers tho

Apr 14, 2017 at 1:57 AM

#183

49erBigMac
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Originally posted by JaggedJ:
No doubt about it, but if we draft differently he can always hide behind the "that was two weeks ago, things change" line.

Manufactured news.

100% manufactured, the biggest way to know that is that if his "source" was ever found out he'd never work in football again, that would mean his "source" would never talk to him again. Utter nonsense

Apr 14, 2017 at 3:01 AM

#184

Rascal
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It could be a case of Fournette Vs Foster based off of the consistent reporting from 3 analysts/reporters, Kevin Jones, Tony Pauline and Albert Breer.

I can see this being true. You know why? Both players share something in common. And that being - Extreme violence & physicality!

This also happens to be the new core attributes that we are looking for with defensive players as divulged by Saleh. It seems to me this could well be a common theme across the board for all 9ers player personnel going forward.

[ Edited by Rascal on Apr 14, 2017 at 4:37 AM ]

Apr 14, 2017 at 4:36 AM

#185

Rascal
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Just compare these 2 clips:

One could argue it is the same player, only one plays on the offensive side of the ball and the other on the defensive side of the ball.

Like I said in my previous post, I could see that as being the new DNA (Extreme Violence & Physicality) of the 9ers players going forward under the Lynch/Shanahan Regime.

So, if you buy into this theory, why would anyone even be surprised if indeed Fournette and Foster were on top of the 9ers' Big Board?

Apr 14, 2017 at 4:54 AM

#186

NYniner85
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Imo this doesn't need its own thread...throw it in the draft rumor thread cause that's what it is

Apr 14, 2017 at 5:17 AM

#187

ltrain
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Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
If it's true, then Imma go out on a limb and say that at #2 they take #2 on their big board and go foster, assuming number 1 on their big board is gone of course

I have sticks in my yard bigger than that limb lol. Seriously doubt this is real, guess we will find out if we stay at 2 and foster is taken. Also would be a serious blow to the new found lack of leaks.

Apr 14, 2017 at 5:18 AM

#188

acrownlessking
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Originally posted by Rascal:
It could be a case of Fournette Vs Foster based off of the consistent reporting from 3 analysts/reporters, Kevin Jones, Tony Pauline and Albert Breer.

I can see this being true. You know why? Both players share something in common. And that being - Extreme violence & physicality!

This also happens to be the new core attributes that we are looking for with defensive players as divulged by Saleh. It seems to me this could well be a common theme across the board for all 9ers player personnel going forward.

I would love this

Apr 14, 2017 at 5:44 AM

#189

miked1978
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
I like Matt Miller but this is BS. At this point in time pretty much no one has their draft boards set and teams are still conducting player workouts and visits.

Well to give him credit he didnt say the bog board is set he just says that is what it is today.

Its not too surprising considering all the recent comments from Lynch.

Wants a physical team
Wants to trade back
Rumors of them not trusting Hyde to be healthy

Also if you go just by on field grades and production alone then those 2 should be near the top.

Apr 14, 2017 at 5:54 AM

#190

Rascal
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Originally posted by acrownlessking:
I would love this

Me too.

Apr 14, 2017 at 5:57 AM

#191

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Apr 14, 2017 at 6:01 AM

#192

gold49er2183
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If we drafted foster which linebacker spot is he taking. I didn't see us giving up on bowman or just letting Malcolm Smith be a back up with that contract.

Apr 14, 2017 at 6:08 AM

#193

NYniner85
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Originally posted by gold49er2183:
If we drafted foster which linebacker spot is he taking. I didn't see us giving up on bowman or just letting Malcolm Smith be a back up with that contract.

Neither player makes really any sense...I'm assuming and hoping we trade down.

Apr 14, 2017 at 6:28 AM

#194

NYniner85
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Florida Gators star, future NFL Draft pick Caleb Brantley involved in a fight with a female: https://t.co/R3y11JeVjS pic.twitter.com/7J38pMOKFJ
— Ryan Bass (@Ry_Bass) April 13, 2017

Welp that will drop him down the board ....

Apr 14, 2017 at 6:30 AM

#195

Phoenix49ers
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Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
Replying to @Rotoworld_Draft
Told Hue Jackson wants Myles Garrett but the front office wants a QB

http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2017/4/12/15269844/schefter-browns-not-decided-at-no-1-between-myles-garrett-and-mitch-trubisky

LOL. Like I've said all along, whomever the Browns draft guarantees our pick will be the far better player.

If this is true, so much for Hue being comfortable (recalling his press conference when he was hired) with the F.O.

Give Hue Garrett at #1, trade up with the 49ers for a QB at #2, problem solved.