MadDog49er Best 50 Board | Page 15

MadDog49er · 2017-03-30T13:18:32-07:00

With a month to go before the draft, and only a couple handful of Pro Days left on the schedule, it is time for me to show my cards in this draft. Although I will continue to adjust my best board, this is what I have for late March 2017. This is not a mock draft, but how I feel the player projects to the NFL. There will surely be some surprises (Fournette, Brown, Mahomes, Hunt), and some that are universally accepted (Garrett, Thomas, etc.). Some explanations: Dalvin Cook is not on my board. Although never convicted of crimes, he has had a long list of problems staying out of trouble in the past few years. While explosive on tape, his combine numbers were shockingly bad. You mix in a high rate of fumbles, and put everything into a blender, and I see too many issues to post a high grade on him. Reuben Foster is probably the most talented ILB in this draft. But, he is way down my board. The blowup at the hospital in Alabama may seem like no big deal, but middle linebackers are usually the leader of defenses. I want guys who show more maturity than what he displayed. Add some issues reading the board with coaches and scouts, once again, too many red flags for me. To me, Mahomes is clearly the best QB in this draft. He needs a ton of work. His footwork may be the worst of all the QBs in this draft. He plays in a silly, video game system, he has a funny voice. I don't care. This dude loves football, and he wants to be great. His arm may be the strongest in the last 5-10 years, and he does some magical things when under pressure (like Roethlisberger). He is going to throw some picks, for sure. But, I like the make-up. This kid is going to be really good in this league. Just needs time. I am a big believer in MAC players. Though ignored by many in the media, they simply put out stud players year after year. This year, I have Davis, Lamp, Hunt, Moton, and Blair Brown in my top 50. In fact, I know I have nearly a dozen players on this list who played ball in either the state of Ohio or Michigan. Final note: I know I am in the minority on my belief that Leonard Fournette is not a top back in this draft. I don't see an effective three down back, and don't see a player who can make the necessary cuts (lateral movement) to be a star NFL back. I want to see him stick his foot into the ground, make a hard cut, and continue down the field. I don't see it. But, as always, and in every draft, I will be wrong a LOT. That is the fun of following the draft. It is magic, witchcraft, to figure out who emerges as a star. You just hope to hit more often than others. So, my board here is surely not of arrogance. The draft humiliates all, and often. You have to have thick skin...and watch a lot of football. Cheers, 2017 NFL Draft Best 50 Board Pick Player School Position 1 Myles Garrett Texas A&M DE/OLB 2 Solomon Thomas Stanford DE 3 Malik Hooker Ohio State S 4 Marshawn Lattimore Ohio State CB 5 Patrick Mahomes Texas Tech QB 6 Haason Reddick Temple LB 7 Corey Davis Western Michigan WR 8 Derek Barnett Tennessee DE/OLB 9 Jonathan Allen Alabama DE/DT 10 Forrest Lamp Western Kentucky G 11 OJ Howard Alabama TE 12 Christian McCaffrey Stanford RB 13 Evan Engram Mississippi TE 14 Jarrad Davis Florida LB 15 Gareon Conley Ohio State CB 16 Mike Williams Clemson WR 17 Fabian Moreau UCLA CB 18 Zay Jones East Carolina WR 19 John Ross Washington WR 20 Kevin King Washington CB 21 Charles Harris Missouri DE/OLB 22 Mitchell Trubisky North Carolina QB 23 Marlon Humphrey Alabama CB 24 Carl Lawson Auburn OLB 25 Cooper Kupp Eastern Washington WR 26 Budda Baker Washington S 27 Kareem Hunt Toledo RB 28 Jamal Adams LSU S 29 Ryan Ramczyk Wisconsin OT 30 Quincy Wilson Florida CB 31 Jordan Willis Kansas St DE 32 Takkarist McKinley UCLA LB 33 Curtis Samuel Ohio State RB/WR 34 TJ Watt Wisconsin DE/LB 35 Taco Charlton Michigan DE/OLB 36 Jabrill Peppers Michigan OLB/S 37 Tarell Basham Ohio DE 38 Dion Dawkins Temple G 39 Tyus Bowser Houston DE/OLB 40 Blair Brown Ohio LB 41 Alvin Kamara Tennessee RB 42 Joe Mixon Oklahoma RB 43 Garrett Bolles Utah OT 44 Cam Robinson Alabama OT/G 45 Leonard Fournette LSU RB 46 David Njoku Miami TE 47 Marcus Maye Florida S 48 Taylor Moton Western Michigan OT 49 Reuben Foster Alabama LB 50 TreDavious White LSU CB

Apr 8, 2017 at 6:02 AM

#211

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Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
Ha! Mine was the other way around actually, I was watching Hooker and McMillan kept making plays! I didn't like the missed tackle of Gallman against Clemson, but otherwise think he's a good player, solid 3rd Rounder. Not sure he's for us though, would be a great TED in a 3-4, think he'd project as SAM for us, but I'd like one with more pass rush

McMillan played better as the year went along, that is for sure. Although he doesn't have great pass rushing skills, his hit in the Michigan game that caused a pick 6 with Hooker saved the season for OSU.

Apr 8, 2017 at 6:08 AM

#212

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Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Malik Hooker distracting me from watching McMillan tape. The kid is crazy good.

What are some things (spefically, in general...) that pop out to you?

Apr 8, 2017 at 7:37 PM

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He covers so much ground, closes faster than anyone in the draft, and makes plays, big plays, especially when the team needs it.

Apr 9, 2017 at 2:56 AM

#214

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Originally posted by MadDog49er:
He covers so much ground, closes faster than anyone in the draft, and makes plays, big plays, especially when the team needs it.

So true, did you see the pick 6 he would have had vs Clemson were it not for a great leaping bat down by the edge rusher?

Amazing read and jump on the ball (it's also one of the main reasons I don't want Watson)

Apr 9, 2017 at 5:27 AM

#215

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It is always important to not have prejudices when examining players. Stamped a mediocre grade on Zach Cunningham last year, and didn't really treat him fair going into this eval. What I see today is a really improved backer who has shored up many of his weaknesses. This is a really tremendous player that will be way up in my next Best 50 board. Being overlooked by many in this process. Really showed what he can do against a Pro Style offense when matched up against Georgia this year.

Apr 9, 2017 at 4:56 PM

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Fabian Moreau: I really like the kid, but 17 overall is rich! I think he would fit great for the new cover 3 defense the 9ers are moving to, but doesn't fit every defense.

He is still learning the position, and seems to be aloof at times. He measurables are outstanding, but it's more projecton than production at this poit. Why so high? I was seeing him more as a late 2nd round pick at best.

Apr 9, 2017 at 5:07 PM

#217

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^ he might in fact be a second round pick. This board isn't "who gets drafted where". This board is "who is going to have the best NFL career."

Apr 9, 2017 at 6:27 PM

#218

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Originally posted by Lobo49er:
^ he might in fact be a second round pick. This board isn't "who gets drafted where". This board is "who is going to have the best NFL career."

That nobody will know for yearssssssss for all y'all to love to jump the gun with no patience lol.

Apr 9, 2017 at 6:41 PM

#219

JBrack
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Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
That nobody will know for yearssssssss for all y'all to love to jump the gun with no patience lol.

Yeah I personally hate that. I think its a bit of a cop out. To many variables to even try to predict how players careers will turn out.

Just make a mock draft like normal people. Then we have something to compare it to immediately.

What good is a list that takes 4 years to come to fruition? In 4 years I certainly won't remember any list.

[ Edited by JBrack on Apr 9, 2017 at 6:42 PM ]

Apr 9, 2017 at 6:45 PM

#220

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Originally posted by JBrack:
Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
That nobody will know for yearssssssss for all y'all to love to jump the gun with no patience lol.

Yeah I personally hate that. I think its a bit of a cop out. To many variables to even try to predict how players careers will turn out.

Just make a mock draft like normal people. Then we have something to compare it to immediately.

What good is a list that takes 4 years to come to fruition? In 4 years I certainly won't remember any list.

Not sure if serious?

http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/nfl-draft/188447-maddog49er-2017-big-150-board/

Apr 9, 2017 at 6:50 PM

#221

JBrack
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Originally posted by Lobo49er:
Not sure if serious?

http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/nfl-draft/188447-maddog49er-2017-big-150-board/

Samething, not a mock...

Im not knocking him I actually know for a fact he knows his s**t. I just don't like the list format of who is better than who. Its all subjective.

Apr 9, 2017 at 7:18 PM

#222

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Originally posted by JBrack:
Originally posted by Lobo49er:
Not sure if serious?

http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/nfl-draft/188447-maddog49er-2017-big-150-board/

Samething, not a mock...

Im not knocking him I actually know for a fact he knows his s**t. I just don't like the list format of who is better than who. Its all subjective.

Mocks are kind of pointless because of trades. Big Boards are great. They give you a sense of where a guy is going to be picked. I see it as a "value" board. This board is a best Board. I see it as a "talent board".

As for how good a talent board is, it certainly is subjective. It's MDs opinion. That's it and I really enjoy it.

Apr 9, 2017 at 7:39 PM

#223

JBrack
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Originally posted by Lobo49er:
Mocks are kind of pointless because of trades. Big Boards are great. They give you a sense of where a guy is going to be picked. I see it as a "value" board. This board is a best Board. I see it as a "talent board".

As for how good a talent board is, it certainly is subjective. It's MDs opinion. That's it and I really enjoy it.

I like mocks because it shows a broad spectrum of NFL and team needs knowledge. If you don't know about the NFL then how do you know how good they will be in the NFL? Kinda an oxymoron.

MadDog no offense, I think you are great.

Apr 9, 2017 at 8:34 PM

#224

KezarLivin
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Originally posted by MadDog49er:
It is always important to not have prejudices when examining players. Stamped a mediocre grade on Zach Cunningham last year, and didn't really treat him fair going into this eval. What I see today is a really improved backer who has shored up many of his weaknesses. This is a really tremendous player that will be way up in my next Best 50 board. Being overlooked by many in this process. Really showed what he can do against a Pro Style offense when matched up against Georgia this year.

I liked how you had Jarrad Davis as your top ranked ILB on this board, how close do you see Cunningham now after review. Massive Davis fan BTW!

Apr 9, 2017 at 9:17 PM

#225

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Originally posted by Lobo49er:
Mocks are kind of pointless because of trades. Big Boards are great. They give you a sense of where a guy is going to be picked. I see it as a "value" board. This board is a best Board. I see it as a "talent board".

As for how good a talent board is, it certainly is subjective. It's MDs opinion. That's it and I really enjoy it.

This