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Originally posted by davewaymer49:
Maybe Charles Harris drops to us.

I'd put Harris at LEO, no question.
Good discussion fellas!

This is what I have right now:

SAM: Eli Harold; Gerald Hodges & Carl Bradford
MIKE: Navarro Bowman; Shayne Skov & Nick Bellore
WILL: Ray-Ray Armstrong; Wynton McManis

Speed and Athleticism and Diverse Skill-sets:
SAM: Michael Morgan (4.46) vs. Eli Harold (4.58; low of 4.48 @ 247); Gerald Hodges (4.70)
MLB: Bobby Wagner (4.45) vs. Navarro Bowman (4.62)
WLB: KJ Wright (4.71) vs. Ray-Ray Armstrong (4.69); Wynton McManis (4.68)

I agree with Hero that Bruce Irvin is the ideal SAM...came out at 6'3" 245 and packed on 10-15 insta-pounds from Pete's steroid-and-PED-flush diet. But he also ran a 4.50 with that speed (one of the fastest LB's in Seattle's defense over the years who happens to play the SAM).

This is why I think Harold will be asked to go back to his normal weight, around 250 and challenge for the SAM. He's not a dynamic edge rusher and therefore, won't be ideal for the LEO. But he is athletic and can add a bit of pass rush on the strong side, has played in space, has had to cover TE's and a huge part of his role as a WILL in our old 3-4, was sifting through traffic and setting the edge, all roles he'd play as a SAM.
Haasan Reddick is an interesting prospect for the SAM. He's an the smaller side, but a quick, do-it-all LB. I imagine he'll weigh in around 245.
Anyone catch Tyus b. Combine performance? Heard he killed it, looking for some opinions from those who watched.
Harris would match up perfectly as our LEO in the mold of Cliff Avril.
Originally posted by adrianlesnar:

Anyone catch Tyus b. Combine performance? Heard he killed it, looking for some opinions from those who watched.

Yup, Tyus had a really good combine.

6'3" 244 lbs w/ 33" arms
4.65 40
21 reps on bench
37.5 vert
127inch broad jump

As advertised: Long, strong and athletic. Guy is built for the SAM position.
[ Edited by Heroism on Mar 5, 2017 at 6:57 PM ]
Originally posted by strickac:
Harris would match up perfectly as our LEO in the mold of Cliff Avril.

Yessir!

Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by adrianlesnar:

Anyone catch Tyus b. Combine performance? Heard he killed it, looking for some opinions from those who watched.

Yup, Tyus had a really good combine.

6'3" 244 lbs w/ 33" arms
4.65 40
21 reps on bench
37.5 vert
127inch broad jump

As advertised: Long, strong and athletic. Guy is built for the SAM position.

Yeah Hero you nailed it with Tyus. I also like Anzalone,Cunningham,McMillan,Anderson,Watt. Might be forgetting a couple others.
Originally posted by Heroism:
Tyus Bowser. He was made to play SAM in this scheme. Long, explosive athlete that has excellent coverage skills, can set a hard edge, and is a real pass-rushing threat. I've been watching his tape, and he's very impressive in space. He covered everything from running backs to even the slot at times. Houston utilized him exactly how we would in this defense.

I think he's so athletic that he might be able to play WILL, too.
Houston's Tyus Bowser tested in the 95th percentile for edge rushers at the NFL Combine.

Bowser was used as a drop linebacker at Houston, so his pass rushing exposures are fewer and far between compared to other edge players in this class. However, his true versatility will intrigue a number of teams. He projects somewhere in any scheme, and this level of athleticism will feed into an "upside" label. At worst his evaluation has a second round feel to it.

Source: 3 Sigma Athlete

Moving on up, 2nd round now?
Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Originally posted by strickac:
Harris would match up perfectly as our LEO in the mold of Cliff Avril.

Yessir!

Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by adrianlesnar:

Anyone catch Tyus b. Combine performance? Heard he killed it, looking for some opinions from those who watched.

Yup, Tyus had a really good combine.

6'3" 244 lbs w/ 33" arms
4.65 40
21 reps on bench
37.5 vert
127inch broad jump

As advertised: Long, strong and athletic. Guy is built for the SAM position.

Yeah Hero you nailed it with Tyus. I also like Anzalone,Cunningham,McMillan,Anderson,Watt. Might be forgetting a couple others.

Would like to get anyone on this list except for Cunningham as the SAM. Cunningham is more of a WILL LB IMO. Run and chase with not a lot of strength. Right now, I would put Watt and Bowser at the top of my wishlist for the SAM on the Niners.
Originally posted by ChaunceyGardner:
Houston's Tyus Bowser tested in the 95th percentile for edge rushers at the NFL Combine.

Bowser was used as a drop linebacker at Houston, so his pass rushing exposures are fewer and far between compared to other edge players in this class. However, his true versatility will intrigue a number of teams. He projects somewhere in any scheme, and this level of athleticism will feed into an "upside" label. At worst his evaluation has a second round feel to it.

Source: 3 Sigma Athlete

Moving on up, 2nd round now?



Yup, looks like it.
Love seeing all that blue text above the combine results.

Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by adrianlesnar:

Anyone catch Tyus b. Combine performance? Heard he killed it, looking for some opinions from those who watched.

Yup, Tyus had a really good combine.

6'3" 244 lbs w/ 33" arms
4.65 40
21 reps on bench
37.5 vert
127inch broad jump

As advertised: Long, strong and athletic. Guy is built for the SAM position.

Would take him in a heartbeat in the 2nd round. Perfect fit for what the Niners need.

Backup choice: TJ Watt
Originally posted by Heroism:
Love seeing all that blue text above the combine results.


Yup. Top tier athleticism, and it shows when you watch him play. He can rush the passer a bit and drop back in space. Has closing speed to make a tackle in the open field. Would make a really good SAM prospect.
Two guys that stood out to me during the combine were Tyus Bowser outta Houston and Blair Brown outta Ohio. They both had good speed to them and preformed well in the drills I saw. Bowser looks like he is gonna be a 3rd maybe 2nd now and Brown looks like a 5th or 6th round sleeper.
[ Edited by Dman11 on Mar 11, 2017 at 8:18 PM ]
Ryan Anderson

Thick through shoulders and chest with good upper-body power. Exhibits professional approach on the field. Disciplined and married to his assignments. Stays clean. Comes into the league with NFL-caliber hand work. Ready hands at point of attack with a willingness to stick and move to avoid being swallowed by size. Sets a sturdy edge and makes a point to physically challenge tight ends early in the game. Will "dead arm" inside shoulder to alter blocker's balance and sneak around the outside hand. Relentless charge as a pass rusher and gets home thanks to his effort. Leverages runners to the sideline and rarely gives up a cut-back lane. Tackle finisher who is always hustling. Plays teammate ball over hero ball. Has experience at outside linebacker in both 3-4 and 4-3. Forced five fumbles over last two seasons.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/ryan-anderson?id=2557853


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