Nathan Peterman-QB-Pitt

Originally posted by WRATHman44:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Mmmmmmkay, good throw, but how the blue, tap-dancing hell did he miss his #3 running all alone down the middle of the field?

Touchdowns are overrated

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by WRATHman44:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Mmmmmmkay, good throw, but how the blue, tap-dancing hell did he miss his #3 running all alone down the middle of the field?

Touchdowns are overrated

Easy to say that after the fact.

It's a great presnap read. Defense stacked the box and put no one behind that corner. Even if that defense were to disguise a coverage, the help defender is too far away to get there. Safety/nickel showed blitz late so pre snap read is Cover 0, man on all 5 eligible. Peterman goes to the double move in 1 on 1 coverage instead of going through a progression to read man/zone on the trips side.

He's not tap dancing, it's a sluggo.

Originally posted by TheNef77:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by WRATHman44:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Mmmmmmkay, good throw, but how the blue, tap-dancing hell did he miss his #3 running all alone down the middle of the field?

Touchdowns are overrated

Easy to say that after the fact.

It's a great presnap read. Defense stacked the box and put no one behind that corner. Even if that defense were to disguise a coverage, the help defender is too far away to get there. Safety/nickel showed blitz late so pre snap read is Cover 0, man on all 5 eligible. Peterman goes to the double move in 1 on 1 coverage instead of going through a progression to read man/zone on the trips side.

He's not tap dancing, it's a sluggo.

There's 2 covering 3 on the concept side, with the safety miles away. That's also obvious in his presnap read. Someone's gonna be uncovered. They aren't showing that late. The Nickel clearly comes off of 3 long enough before the snap to make the break in coverage clear.

I like Peterman, but he goofed and got lucky there. No reason to throw a 50/50 ball when there's a wide open receiver at the same depth.

Originally posted by WRATHman44:
Mmmmmmkay, good throw, but how the blue, tap-dancing hell did he miss his #3 running all alone down the middle of the field?

Yeah he missed on that play, still a nice throw but he stuck with his presnap read too long, although I think that is an issue for most college QB's and something that they will have to avoid in the NFL.

Originally posted by WRATHman44:
There's 2 covering 3 on the concept side, with the safety miles away. That's also obvious in his presnap read. Someone's gonna be uncovered. They aren't showing that late. The Nickel clearly comes off of 3 long enough before the snap to make the break in coverage clear.

I like Peterman, but he goofed and got lucky there. No reason to throw a 50/50 ball when there's a wide open receiver at the same depth.

Watch again, safety doesn't show blitz until QB's eyes go for the snap. This isn't Madden where catching the snap is automatic. There's 3 on 3 before he looks down for the snap. You don't know if there's combo coverage or whatever. You do know that you have a corner on an island against a double move. You also assume that if there is a blitz from what they're showing, you will have to rush a throw.

Originally posted by TheNef77:

Originally posted by WRATHman44:

There's 2 covering 3 on the concept side, with the safety miles away. That's also obvious in his presnap read. Someone's gonna be uncovered. They aren't showing that late. The Nickel clearly comes off of 3 long enough before the snap to make the break in coverage clear.

I like Peterman, but he goofed and got lucky there. No reason to throw a 50/50 ball when there's a wide open receiver at the same depth.

Watch again, safety doesn't show blitz until QB's eyes go for the snap. This isn't Madden where catching the snap is automatic. There's 3 on 3 before he looks down for the snap. You don't know if there's combo coverage or whatever. You do know that you have a corner on an island against a double move. You also assume that if there is a blitz from what they're showing, you will have to rush a throw.

I disagree completely. We have peripheral vision for a reason. If we can expect a QB to sense and avoid pressure in the pocket, we can certainly expect him to detect a large white blob moving closer at about 75 degrees off of his line of sight. I wouldn't defend our starting HS QB if he failed to see that coming.

Originally posted by WRATHman44:

Originally posted by TheNef77:

Originally posted by WRATHman44:
There's 2 covering 3 on the concept side, with the safety miles away. That's also obvious in his presnap read. Someone's gonna be uncovered. They aren't showing that late. The Nickel clearly comes off of 3 long enough before the snap to make the break in coverage clear.

I like Peterman, but he goofed and got lucky there. No reason to throw a 50/50 ball when there's a wide open receiver at the same depth.

Watch again, safety doesn't show blitz until QB's eyes go for the snap. This isn't Madden where catching the snap is automatic. There's 3 on 3 before he looks down for the snap. You don't know if there's combo coverage or whatever. You do know that you have a corner on an island against a double move. You also assume that if there is a blitz from what they're showing, you will have to rush a throw.

I disagree completely. We have peripheral vision for a reason. If we can expect a QB to sense and avoid pressure in the pocket, we can certainly expect him to detect a large white blob moving closer at about 75 degrees off of his line of sight. I wouldn't defend our starting HS QB if he failed to see that coming.

Meh, agree to disagree on this one. Peterman knew he had his guy beat from the pre snap and he did. That's more than majority of the QB's in this draft can do. Anyone from that front could've dropped back into coverage, why bother the possibility when you know you have a guy beat all by himself? On to the next.

Originally posted by WRATHman44:

There's 2 covering 3 on the concept side, with the safety miles away. That's also obvious in his presnap read. Someone's gonna be uncovered. They aren't showing that late. The Nickel clearly comes off of 3 long enough before the snap to make the break in coverage clear.

I like Peterman, but he goofed and got lucky there. No reason to throw a 50/50 ball when there's a wide open receiver at the same depth.

And maybe that's why he's not a top 10 pick? That's something that can be coached and something he can learn with more film I like this kid though

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by WRATHman44:
There's 2 covering 3 on the concept side, with the safety miles away. That's also obvious in his presnap read. Someone's gonna be uncovered. They aren't showing that late. The Nickel clearly comes off of 3 long enough before the snap to make the break in coverage clear.

I like Peterman, but he goofed and got lucky there. No reason to throw a 50/50 ball when there's a wide open receiver at the same depth.

And maybe that's why he's not a top 10 pick? That's something that can be coached and something he can learn with more film I like this kid though

I like him too; I just try to call it like it is. I agree that he likely decided to throw left based on the initial alignment, but it can never be that big of a surprise when defenses shift before the snap. They do that in high school. New input = new plan. The moment the box safety blitzed and the high safety rotated down, that #3 was a no-brainer throw, and both happened right at the snap (blitz showed earlier, of course). That's a bad play that turned out okay because the CB couldn't quite reach the slight underthrow.

FWIW, I don't think his decision-making mas anything to do with his draft slot. I think there are concerns about his arm strength and ceiling that will keep him from rising out of the 2nd day, but I don't think any of his limitations would keep him from becoming a good starter. I like his cool demeanor and competitive attitude.

This kid is this year's Derek Carr/Jimmy G

Originally posted by WRATHman44:

I like him too; I just try to call it like it is. I agree that he likely decided to throw left based on the initial alignment, but it can never be that big of a surprise when defenses shift before the snap. They do that in high school. New input = new plan. The moment the box safety blitzed and the high safety rotated down, that #3 was a no-brainer throw, and both happened right at the snap (blitz showed earlier, of course). That's a bad play that turned out okay because the CB couldn't quite reach the slight underthrow.

FWIW, I don't think his decision-making mas anything to do with his draft slot. I think there are concerns about his arm strength and ceiling that will keep him from rising out of the 2nd day, but I don't think any of his limitations would keep him from becoming a good starter. I like his cool demeanor and competitive attitude.

Agreed

So garret. Top receiver in 2 and then this guy

Originally posted by bors:

So garret. Top receiver in 2 and then this guy

I have a feeling that a few teams pick late in 2nd round may take him so if we want him we need to trade up with our 3rd pick maybe around 49-51...

Pitt HC Pat Narduzzi compares QB Nathan Peterman to Washington Redskins QB Kirk Cousins as a prospect, according to NFL Network's Mike Mayock.

Narduzzi's opinion on the matter holds weight, as he was on the staff that coached Cousins at Michigan State. A Tennessee transfer, Peterman migrated to Pennsylvania and was a two-year starter for Narduzzi. Peterman threw for 2,855 yards and a 27/7 TD/INT ratio for the Panthers in 2016. Like Cousins, he'll be available on Day 3.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Pitt HC Pat Narduzzi compares QB Nathan Peterman to Washington Redskins QB Kirk Cousins as a prospect, according to NFL Network's Mike Mayock.

Narduzzi's opinion on the matter holds weight, as he was on the staff that coached Cousins at Michigan State. A Tennessee transfer, Peterman migrated to Pennsylvania and was a two-year starter for Narduzzi. Peterman threw for 2,855 yards and a 27/7 TD/INT ratio for the Panthers in 2016. Like Cousins, he'll be available on Day 3.

5. Nathan Peterman, QB, Pittsburgh

It was not a great week for the quarterbacks, but Peterman was the one name mentioned by evaluators from start to finish. He capped a solid week of practice with a good showing in the game, as he completed 16-of-23 passes with three of his incompletions coming on throwaways or drops. While the other quarterbacks struggled to complete passes, Peterman scanned the field, found the open man, and moved the chains while showing just enough arm strength and accuracy to complete passes outside the numbers. It's not always easy for quarterbacks to stand out in an all-star week, as they have to consume a new playbook while throwing to unfamiliar receivers, but Peterman did more than enough to keep his stock moving in the right direction.

He had a good week at the Senior Bowl, I can easily see the 49ers bringing him in for a workout.