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Yay Area's 2017 Mock Offseason (Version 1)

After watching the team lose yet again, looking at mock drafts and mock offseasons is about the only thing that provides some solace haha. Ideally, the Yorks would sell the team to a new ownership group that could provide solid leadership and vision like Lacob and Guber. I would love for the 49ers to be light years ahead. But I don't think the chances of that are very likely. So here we go.

General Manager/Team President - Nick Caserio (Currently the Director of Player Personnel for the Patriots)
Assistant GM - Tom Gamble
Head Coach - Chip Kelly (He remains for the time being)

1. Round 1 – While we certainly do need a franchise QB, I'm not convinced any of the options that will be available this year in the Top 5 or Top 10, have the repetitive accuracy and decision making to warrant the decision. I would rather wait it out, and shoot for Jake Browning next year. So, we trade our Top 5 pick to Tennessee for their two picks in the teens, currently slated at 16 and 17. This works according to the trade chart, as long as our pick is in the top 2 or 3. (http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/10/2017_nfl_draft_order_after_wee_1.html)

2. Round 1 (16) - Mike Williams, WR, Clemson. Our current depth chart at WR is so bad. We need a #1, we need depth, we need more playmakers. Mike Williams is arguably the best WR coming out this year.

3. Round 1 (17) - Reuben Foster, ILB, Alabama. It is very apparent that since losing Willis, then Borland, and then Bowman to injury, we need a another huge talent infusion at LB. And like Williams, Foster is arguably the best coming out this year at his position.

4. Round 2 (own pick) - Ethan Pocic, OG/OC, LSU. I believe drafting lineman, offensive and defensive, every year. Successful teams are built from the inside out. Yes we have Kilgore at Center, and we just signed and drafted Beadles and Garnett. But Pocic is worth it. Let them compete and see what happens. Either way, we develop depth.

5. Round 3 (own pick) - Ryan Anderson, OLB/DE, Alabama. He is developing into one of Alabama's best pass rushers, which is certainly something we could use.

6. Round 4 (own pick) - John Ross, WR, Washington. He slips due to past knee injuries. But his play this year shows that he is back and just as explosive as ever.

7. Round 5 (own pick) - Avery Gennesy, OT, Texas A&M. Just like with Pocic. We have Staley and Brown, and just drafted Theus and Cooper last year, but lets throw Gennesy in and let me compete.

8. Round 5 (Washington pick acquired in trade for TE Derek Carrier) - Brandon Facyson, CB, Virginia Tech. Solid corner from a program that is known for producing good defensive backs.

9. Round 6 (own pick) - Stacy Coley, WR, Miami. Speedy WR that adds another playmaker to the offense.

10. Round 6 (Denver pick acquired in trade for TE Vernon Davis) - Jamal Williams, RB, BYU. Another playmaker for the offense. His success against BYU's schedule this year has been impressive. He is one of the most underrated backs in the country.

11. Round 7 (Cleveland's pick acquired in 2015 trade for Andy Lee) - Kai Nacua, S, BYU. Hard hitting ballhawk that is leading the country in interceptions.

Quarterback: Blaine Gabbert, Colin Kaepernick, Christian Ponder

Running back: Carlos Hyde, Jamal Williams, Shaun Draughn, Mike Davis, Kelvin Taylor

Wide receiver: Mike Williams, Torrey Smith, John Ross, Stacy Coley, Quinton Patton, Jeremy Kerley, Rod Streater, Aaron Burbridge, Keyshawn Martin, DeAndre Smelter, Bruce Ellington, Eric Rogers, Dres Anderson

Tight end: Vance McDonald, Garrett Celek, Blake Bell, Bruce Miller, Je'Ron Hamm

Offensive line Joe Staley, Zane Beadles, Daniel Kilgore, Trent Brown, Joshua Garnett, Ethan Pocic, Andrew Tiller, Marcus Martin, John Theus, Avery Gennesy, Fahn Cooper, Alex Balducci, Norman Price

Defensive line: Quinton Dial, Glenn Dorsey, DeForest Buckner, Arik Armstead, Tony Jerod-Eddie, Mike Purcell, Ronald Blair, Mike Purcell

Outside linebacker Ahmad Brooks, Eli Harold, Tank Carradine, Ryan Anderson, Marcus Rush

Inside linebacker: Reuben Foster, NaVorro Bowman, Ray-Ray Armstrong, Gerald Hodges, Michael Wilhoite, Nick Bellore, Shayne Skov

Cornerback: Tramaine Brock, Jimmie Ward, Chris Davis, Keith Reaser, Dontae Johnson, Rashard Robinson, Will Redmond, Brandon Facyson, Prince Charles Iworah

Safety: Eric Reid, Antoine Bethea, Jaquiski Tartt, Marcus Cromartie, Kai Nacua

Specialists: K Phil Dawson, P Bradley Pinion, LS Kyle Nelson


The draft fills needs and provides playmakers. I believe it is a solid talent infusion. Now, it is early in the process, some of the picks might be wishful thinking, but I think it is pretty fair from my research. Like I said earlier, we are still missing a QB. But after this draft, I believe many of our needs will have been met. So lets let these new guys develop and then go all in for Browning in 2018. Let me know what you guys think.
[ Edited by YayArea on Oct 23, 2016 at 7:49 PM ]
There is absolutely no way we are going into next year with the same qbs
What happens if we don't pick in the top 5 or 10 again next year? We'll have to pick a QB at some point and we may not pick in the top 5 (or 10) again in the near future. This also seems like a decent QB class so far with a number of first or second round prospects at QB.

I do like the trade from the 49ers' perspective if Garrett is gone because a QB may not be worth the #2 or #3 pick, we don't really need another RB or safety, and there are several players we could use who could be available at 16 or 17. I can't imagine the Titans making that trade, because they don't need a QB or RB either and two mid-first round picks is a lot to give up for a safety (one of the less valuable positions even though Peppers is a beast).

It would be sweet if we pulled off that trade with the Titans and ended up with Watson, Kizer, or Trubisky (may require a trade up from 16) and Williams in the first round and then an ILB like McMillan in the 2nd round or a pass rusher like Carl Lawson/Charles Harris/Dawuane Smoot.
There is no way they aren't taking a QB early. This whole "let's wait on this guy" rhetoric when its not clear they might even be a better prospect than what is available doesn't make any sense to me. Just like last year. "This is a terrible QB draft, wait for 2017." Meanwhile Carson Wentz and Dak Prescott are doing just fine for themselves from that "terrible QB draft."


Josh Rosen who everyone was locking in for the #1 pick in 2018 hasn't looked that great and while Browning is a high caliber prospect, he's not an Andrew Luck or some sort of generational QB prospect. It could very well turn out that a guy that comes out in this draft ends up as a much better NFL QB.
Originally posted by Tman:
There is absolutely no way we are going into next year with the same qbs

THIS. FUUUUUCK THAT!!!
Not drafting a quarterback and coming into next season with the same group of QBs would be a horrible mistake and our defense likely won't be this bad next year so when would we finally get the quarterback we need so desperately?
Originally posted by 49ersGiantspride:
Not drafting a quarterback and coming into next season with the same group of QBs would be a horrible mistake and our defense likely won't be this bad next year so when would we finally get the quarterback we need so desperately?


"Hey 49ers fans, so we're bringing back Gabbert and Kaepernick for one more season in the hopes of drafting this one guy after the season, that we might not be in any position to draft and who ultimately may turn out to not be a worth damn anyways, let's do this!"


Nobody is trying to hear that.
[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on Oct 23, 2016 at 8:12 PM ]
Message received. I completely understand the need to add a QB to the roster. My approach was risky and unpopular. So what about this? Do the same trade with Tennessee. Draft Mike Williams at 16 and then Mitch Trubisky, the North Carolina QB at 17. Then cross the fingers that Reuben Foster slips out of the first round and we grab him with our second round pick instead of Pocic. Keep everything else the same.
Originally posted by Tman:
There is absolutely no way we are going into next year with the same qbs

Agreed
[ Edited by njninersfan420 on Oct 23, 2016 at 8:48 PM ]
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
There is no way they aren't taking a QB early. This whole "let's wait on this guy" rhetoric when its not clear they might even be a better prospect than what is available doesn't make any sense to me. Just like last year. "This is a terrible QB draft, wait for 2017." Meanwhile Carson Wentz and Dak Prescott are doing just fine for themselves from that "terrible QB draft."


Josh Rosen who everyone was locking in for the #1 pick in 2018 hasn't looked that great and while Browning is a high caliber prospect, he's not an Andrew Luck or some sort of generational QB prospect. It could very well turn out that a guy that comes out in this draft ends up as a much better NFL QB.

Like your posts, and agree here. This team needs a reboot and you can't do that with a QB prospect that fits the system and offers potential for the team and the fans. We need hope.

I think SF should still look at anbest player available model, such as what they've been doing in Oakland, because this team needs playmakers. If Fournette or a WR is that good and no QB is seen to have top 5 value then wait until the second round.

After this season, its glaringly obvious that the 49ers should have traded up for Lynch instead of Garnett. There is no good reason why he should be riding the pine right now other than if he really sucks. And if that's the case then he'll be yet another Baalke miss.
[ Edited by bzborow1 on Oct 23, 2016 at 8:51 PM ]
Originally posted by bzborow1:
Like your posts, and agree here. This team needs a reboot and you can't do that with a QB prospect that fits the system and offers potential for the team and the fans. We need hope.

I think SF should still look at anbest player available model, such as what they've been doing in Oakland, because this team needs playmakers. If Fournette or a WR is that good and no QB is seen to have top 5 value then wait until the second round.

After this season, its glaringly obvious that the 49ers should have traded up for Lynch instead of Garnett. There is no good reason why he should be riding the pine right now other than if he really sucks. And if that's the case then he'll be yet another Baalke miss.


I don't agree there.. Lynch has a lot of the same issues as Kaepernick. Long, extended delivery, questionable short area accuracy, footwork is a mess. He's going to need time to develop. Has a lot of upside but a whole lot of stuff to work through.
Regardless, they are going to have to roll the dice on a QB at some point and hope you end up more like the Raiders with Carr or Philly with Wentz as opposed to the Rams with Goff.
Originally posted by bzborow1:
Regardless, they are going to have to roll the dice on a QB at some point and hope you end up more like the Raiders with Carr or Philly with Wentz as opposed to the Rams with Goff.

To be fair we don't know what kind of QB Goff will be. Most people thought he would need to take some time to develop, he could turn out to be the best of that group or a complete bust but only time will tell.

In this upcoming draft there's a variety of QB prospects, whoever is in charge will have to do their best to evaluate them and then hopefully have a bit of luck because I do think luck plays a part in it too.
As much as I love Mike Williams and Reuben Foster there is no way they don't take a QB, Watson or Kizer are going to be starting QB for the 49ers next year..i have no doubt in my mind about that..now if the niners could somehow trade back into the 1st round for 1 of the 2 you have them taking after taking a QB then id love that lol
Originally posted by Tman:
There is absolutely no way we are going into next year with the same qbs

This. This scenario means we re-signed Gabbert and Ponder and Kap opted in which is just not happening. We might win 4 more games with this roster and the same QBs.

We will have a top 3 pick and a ton of cash, we need have a better offseason than this
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