Mitch "Mr Biscuit" Trubisky-QB-North Carolina

Originally posted by amosmac28:

Your right. They have all STUNK! Cassel, Bledsoe, all of them.

Belichick has a great system. Those QB's fit his system. Outside of that system, they stunk.

Not to mention, does anybody think Garropollo actual fits Chip's scheme if he stays? Mitch Trubisky fits Chip's scheme. I say start fresh.

Ummm Bledsoe was a pro bowler after he left NE and was far from awful in Dal the yr before he got hurt.

How can you compare Matt Cassel who was a backup in college and a 7th rd pick to Jimmy G who was a 2nd rd pick and broke Romo's college records? Just because they played at the same place DOES NOT make them the same player.


Do you know what Chip Kelly's system needs to be successful?? Above everything else Chip needs a QB that has a quick release, is smart, and is accurate.

This is from Jimmy G's draft profile

"Has a very quick trigger and good wrist snap that translates to a smooth throwing motion and clean, compact delivery (no windup). Lightning release quickness. Urgent decision maker. Sells play-action. Athletic enough to slide in the pocket and buy time with his feet while keeping his eyes downfield. Good anticipation -- throws his receivers open. Can change ball speeds and drop it in a bucket. Does not take unnecessary sacks and will dump the ball. Will deliver the ball looking down the barrel of a gun. Tough-minded and poised in the pocket -- can withstand a hit and pop back up. Highly competitive. Smart, respected, vocal team leader. Very durable, experienced, four-year starter. Good football intelligence."


The idea that we need some athletic freak to run Chip's offense is so far off base...Jimmy G would be the perfect QB to run this offense in the NFL. That said if we can't get him, I do think Turbisky would be able to run it just fine.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by tatdwolf49:

Uummm question here so how are them pat's back up QB's after they leave tha almighty Belichick camp???

So you're gonna compare Matt Cassel who was a backup at USC and a 7th rd draft pick to Jimmy G who was a 2nd rd pick and broke all of Tony Romo's college records

Just because they played on the Pats doesn't mean they are even close to the same player.

Here's his draft profile in 2014

"Has a very quick trigger and good wrist snap that translates to a smooth throwing motion and clean, compact delivery (no windup). Lightning release quickness. Urgent decision maker. Sells play-action. Athletic enough to slide in the pocket and buy time with his feet while keeping his eyes downfield. Good anticipation -- throws his receivers open. Can change ball speeds and drop it in a bucket. Does not take unnecessary sacks and will dump the ball. Will deliver the ball looking down the barrel of a gun. Tough-minded and poised in the pocket -- can withstand a hit and pop back up. Highly competitive. Smart, respected, vocal team leader. Very durable, experienced, four-year starter. Good football intelligence."

Wasn't tony romo undrafted?

Originally posted by Alfienator:
Wasn't tony romo undrafted?

He was, what does that matter? They went to the same school and it looks like everyone and their mom got it wrong with Romo lol. Scouts overlooked Romo because he played at Eastern Illinois.

Jimmy G was looked at as a 1st - 2nd rd prospect and was drafted at 62. He's a damn good QB and it annoys me that people feel the need to say he's the same thing as Matt Cassel because they're too lazy to actually watch him play ( or at the very least look up both their backgrounds ).

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Alfienator:

Wasn't tony romo undrafted?

He was, what does that matter? They went to the same school and it looks like everyone and their mom got it wrong with Romo lol. Scouts overlooked Romo because he played at Eastern Illinois.

Jimmy G was looked at as a 1st - 2nd rd prospect and was drafted at 62. He's a damn good QB and it annoys me that people feel the need to say he's the same thing as Matt Cassel because they're too lazy to actually watch him play ( or at the very least look up both their backgrounds ).

Well you through out rounds on who got picked where but I'm on the same page with you for Jimmy G

so this is the chump that's gonna save this team?? LOL

Originally posted by shmuck:

Originally posted by Rascal:
Gentlemen, just like the example I had previously cited about the Texans in going after 3 x 1st round DEs and therefore neglected on the most important QB position, well Brock Osweiler has just been benched in the 2nd quarter by Bill O'Brien after throwing 2 interceptions. This is how fxxked up the Texans are thanks to the perpetually unresolved QB position. Should serve as a good lesson of not what to do.

Or you can be the Browns and draft a QB every couple of years and still go 0-16. It works both ways.

This is a possibility too.

But in all honestly, I don't see the bust factor being that high in Trubisky. I don't see it in Watson either. If both end up in the right situation (good HC, good OC), I think they will have bright careers ahead of them. Even in the context of Chip Kelly's offense, I see they could do pretty well because of their accuracy. We've seen yards, first downs, and points left all over the field this year. It won't do much to help the defense other than keeping them off the field (which is a defensive strategy lol), but offensively, even with our lack of playmakers, could put us in the low to mid 20s in terms of a per game average in points next season. If they can somehow sign a player like Terrell Pryor and a change of pace back, all the better for our QB next year.

Originally posted by tatdwolf49:
Uummm question here so how are them pat's back up QB's after they leave tha almighty Belichick camp???

Exactly who are all these QB's that have left New England? Kevin O'Connell?

Mallett sucked while with New England, Cassel had one good season throwing to Randy Moss and Wes Welker, went to KC and had a pretty good year and then fell off the map.


Garoppolo is a better talent than any of them by far.

Originally posted by JeromeBettis36:

so this is the chump that's gonna save this team?? LOL

What don't you like about him?

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by amosmac28:
Your right. They have all STUNK! Cassel, Bledsoe, all of them.

Belichick has a great system. Those QB's fit his system. Outside of that system, they stunk.

Not to mention, does anybody think Garropollo actual fits Chip's scheme if he stays? Mitch Trubisky fits Chip's scheme. I say start fresh.

Ummm Bledsoe was a pro bowler after he left NE and was a far from awful in Dal the yr before he got hurt.

How can you compare Matt Cassel who was a backup in college and a 7th rd pick to Jimmy G who was a 2nd rd pick and broke Romo's college records? Just because they played at the same place DOES NOT make them the same player.


Do you know what Chip Kelly's system needs to be successful?? Above everything else Chip needs a QB that has a quick release, is smart, and is accurate.

This is from Jimmy G's draft profile

"Has a very quick trigger and good wrist snap that translates to a smooth throwing motion and clean, compact delivery (no windup). Lightning release quickness. Urgent decision maker. Sells play-action. Athletic enough to slide in the pocket and buy time with his feet while keeping his eyes downfield. Good anticipation -- throws his receivers open. Can change ball speeds and drop it in a bucket. Does not take unnecessary sacks and will dump the ball. Will deliver the ball looking down the barrel of a gun. Tough-minded and poised in the pocket -- can withstand a hit and pop back up. Highly competitive. Smart, respected, vocal team leader. Very durable, experienced, four-year starter. Good football intelligence."


The idea that we need some athletic freak to run Chip's offense is so far off base...Jimmy G would be the perfect QB to run this offense in the NFL. That said if we can't get him, I do think Turbisky would be able to run it just fine.

I think the bigger issue with Jimmy G is that if we make that trade for him, he has to be the guy with only one year left on his contract. Not much time to evaluate him. If there were 2 or 3 years left on his deal without having to make a major financial commitment to him, I'd be more sold on this trade.

Originally posted by JeromeBettis36:
so this is the chump that's gonna save this team?? LOL

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by JeromeBettis36:

so this is the chump that's gonna save this team?? LOL

What don't you like about him?

I think his phone autocorrected. He really meant to say *champ

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
I think the bigger issue with Jimmy G is that if we make that trade for him, he has to be the guy with only one year left on his contract. Not much time to evaluate him. If there were 2 or 3 years left on his deal without having to make a major financial commitment to him, I'd be more sold on this trade.

The beauty of it on the flip side is he has to earn his paycheck for 2018 and if he sucks you let him go. You can always tag him if he blows it up....

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
I think the bigger issue with Jimmy G is that if we make that trade for him, he has to be the guy with only one year left on his contract. Not much time to evaluate him. If there were 2 or 3 years left on his deal without having to make a major financial commitment to him, I'd be more sold on this trade.

The beauty of it on the flip side is he has to earn his paycheck for 2018 and if he sucks you let him go. You can always tag him if he blows it up....

That is always an option. Just an expensive one. The good news for 49ers fans is that provided with have the right GM making the call (I know this is a big if), we are in a favorable position. Unless we do something incredibly stupid like draft Leonard Fournette (great player, but come on..this isn't 1979) AND skip out on a QB, we will either have Myles Garrett + Watson/Trubisky/Jimmy G or Watson/Trubisky + a top offensive or defensive playmaker in the draft. The latter isn't bad at all and the former is great.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
I think the bigger issue with Jimmy G is that if we make that trade for him, he has to be the guy with only one year left on his contract. Not much time to evaluate him. If there were 2 or 3 years left on his deal without having to make a major financial commitment to him, I'd be more sold on this trade.

The beauty of it on the flip side is he has to earn his paycheck for 2018 and if he sucks you let him go. You can always tag him if he blows it up....

You can tag him twice in a row, actually. And with our cap situation that would be very easy to digest.

You'd get him for his rookie deal in 2017, the franchise QB number in 2018 and the franchise QB number (plus 25%) in 2019. Those numbers may be around $24M and $29M respectfully.

Not that that is ideal. But it certainly buys you time before you have to lock a guy into a 6 year deal.

I'd have no problem taking Trubisky at #2, if Garrett is gone.