DeShone Kizer QB, Notre Dame

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Zachary13White:

throwing to wr that couldn't get any seperation and playing under siege from a dirty pocket on most plays and if u took out the hurricane weather game he would be ababove 60%..

You could take out Mitch's hurricane game as well and his accuracy would be even higher.

that is true...I'm curious to see what Trubiskys YPA was it literally felt like every other pass was a screen or a quick hitter. his recievers were constantly getting seperation and making his job easier..if u made Mitch Trubisky the quarterback of the Irish I don't think he would have had a year better then Kizer did. thats complete speculation but i think it true. If Kizer was part of the UNC offense I feel they would be a better team. again speculation.. you can't just look at completion % because of the vastly different offenses ran and personnel... I'm not a Mitch Trubisky hater or anything I actually do like him as a prospect. but for my money I'd go Kizer before I'd go MT.. Kizer has sky high potential

Originally posted by Zachary13White:
that is true...I'm curious to see what Trubiskys YPA was it literally felt like every other pass was a screen or a quick hitter. his recievers were constantly getting seperation and making his job easier..if u made Mitch Trubisky the quarterback of the Irish I don't think he would have had a year better then Kizer did. thats complete speculation but i think it true. If Kizer was part of the UNC offense I feel they would be a better team. again speculation.. you can't just look at completion % because of the vastly different offenses ran and personnel... I'm not a Mitch Trubisky hater or anything I actually do like him as a prospect. but for my money I'd go Kizer before I'd go MT.. Kizer has sky high potential

He avg 8.5 YPA which is good (More than Watson and Kizer). I don't think you can say Mitch had all pro talent at WR either lol.

Kizer YPA last yr when he had Fuller was the same as Turbisky this yr...there's not one single WR on the UNC that will be even close to a 1st rd pick...Switzer might be a 4th rd pick.

They both ran some from of a spread offense

Turbisky has a better floor and IMO his potential is just as high....they are both prototypical size for a QB, both have strong arms, both can scramble and are athletic...Mitch just doesn't make those WTF throws that I saw from Kizer and he's more accurate.

Get him in a WCO and we're gonna be looking good.

Either him late in the 1st (after we trade back in the 1st) if Trubisky isn't available at #2.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

He avg 8.5 YPA which is good (More than Watson and Kizer). I don't think you can say Mitch had all pro talent at WR either lol.

Kizer YPA last yr when he had Fuller was the same as Turbisky this yr...there's not one single WR on the UNC that will be even close to a 1st rd pick...Switzer might be a 4th rd pick.

They both ran some from of a spread offense

Turbisky has a better floor and IMO his potential is just as high....they are both prototypical size for a QB, both have strong arms, both can scramble and are athletic...Mitch just doesn't make those WTF throws that I saw from Kizer and he's more accurate.

Get him in a WCO and we're gonna be looking good.

He actually threw a pretty terrible int to seal a loss in one of his last games of the season. Underthrown directly to a defender.....everybody has had a few, Watson included

Originally posted by Tman:

He actually threw a pretty terrible int to seal a loss in one of his last games of the season. Underthrown directly to a defender.....everybody has had a few, Watson included

Some more than others

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Tman:

He actually threw a pretty terrible int to seal a loss in one of his last games of the season. Underthrown directly to a defender.....everybody has had a few, Watson included

Some more than others

Indeed

Originally posted by NYniner85:
He avg 8.5 YPA which is good (More than Watson and Kizer). I don't think you can say Mitch had all pro talent at WR either lol.

Kizer YPA last yr when he had Fuller was the same as Turbisky this yr...there's not one single WR on the UNC that will be even close to a 1st rd pick...Switzer might be a 4th rd pick.

They both ran some from of a spread offense

Turbisky has a better floor and IMO his potential is just as high....they are both prototypical size for a QB, both have strong arms, both can scramble and are athletic...Mitch just doesn't make those WTF throws that I saw from Kizer and he's more accurate.

Get him in a WCO and we're gonna be looking good.

Trubisky lost Mack Hollins in the year and his main target was a smaller slot receiver so he wasn't just throwing it up and letting Switzer go up and get those passes. I thought he did a good job throwing in some tight windows when he needed to.

Originally posted by Tman:
He actually threw a pretty terrible int to seal a loss in one of his last games of the season. Underthrown directly to a defender.....everybody has had a few, Watson included

One of my concerns about Watson is that as lot of his INT's were the result of him staring a receiver down and simply not noticing a defender in the area. He seems to really struggle with his vision going across the middle of the field and that is pretty disconcerting.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Trubisky lost Mack Hollins in the year and his main target was a smaller slot receiver so he wasn't just throwing it up and letting Switzer go up and get those passes. I thought he did a good job throwing in some tight windows when he needed to.

Agreed he made his WR/TEs better not the other way around

If kizer is having issues with WRs getting separation now, The NFL is not going to get easier

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
If kizer is having issues with WRs getting separation now, The NFL is not going to get easier

His WRs in the NFL will get more separation in the NFL unless he comes to the 49ers.

We have no idea how Watson or Trubisky will perform with WRs that get as little separation as ours do (or even as little separation as ND's receivers get).

Watson's receivers may actually be worse next year than they are this year (I'd take Clemson's WRs and TEs over ours). Mike Williams will be far better than Torrey Smith as a rookie (in our last game, the announcer said the 49ers don't even have a #2 WR on the roster). Artavis Scott is a projected 3rd round pick. Jordan Leggett should be a 2nd round pick. Deon Cain is not draft eligible, but nfldraftscout has him as the 3rd WR in his class which could make him a future 1st round pick. This guy is surrounded by NFL talent and still put up less efficient numbers (lower passer rating) than Kizer this year if you take out that NC State hurricane game.

If Cleveland passes on him we need to pick him and move back into the 1st and pick T. Williams and go on from there

Sporting news has us taking him at 2, first qb off the board

Originally posted by Tman:
Sporting news has us taking him at 2, first qb off the board

Originally posted by Sims19849ers:

If he would turn out to be a stud QB nobody will care when he was drafted.

It may seem like a reach now but at the end of the day it's how these guys perform that determines when they should've been drafted.