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- gold49er2183
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- eastcoast49ersfan
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Originally posted by gold49er2183:
From what I've watched I agree with most of what this guy says. I do think Trubisky is the better prospect. For those who would rather hear a breakdown
I thought Mahomes was closer to 6'2 than 6'4. This guy seems to think he's 6'3.5 or 6'4 which is one of the reasons he has Mahomes ranked as the #1 QB ahead of Kizer.
The fact (if it is a fact) that some teams have Mahomes as the #1 QB says a lot about the top QBs in the class. None of them are worth the #2 pick. Mahomes is way too raw to go #2 overall, Trubisky may only be 6'1, Watson doesn't have an elite arm, and Kizer is inconsistent. I would love to get one of these guys to develop in the late first/with our 2nd round pick. Hopefully someone likes Jonathan Allen/Solomon Thomas so we can trade back from #2...
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Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:I thought Mahomes was closer to 6'2 than 6'4. This guy seems to think he's 6'3.5 or 6'4 which is one of the reasons he has Mahomes ranked as the #1 QB ahead of Kizer.
The fact (if it is a fact) that some teams have Mahomes as the #1 QB says a lot about the top QBs in the class. None of them are worth the #2 pick. Mahomes is way too raw to go #2 overall, Trubisky may only be 6'1, Watson doesn't have an elite arm, and Kizer is inconsistent. I would love to get one of these guys to develop in the late first/with our 2nd round pick. Hopefully someone likes Jonathan Allen/Solomon Thomas so we can trade back from #2...
I think Trubisky is the better prospect but I'd rather not draft either at 2.
- KPaul
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Originally posted by Mertonschickendance:Originally posted by ninerAxe:Seems like another guy whose stock will rise like Wentz. VERY intriguing especially imagining him in Chip's offense.
Someone please tell me how he's better than Kap? Look really similar
Kaep seems like a pretty fair comparison coming out of college. The ball just seems to jump out of his hands effortlessly.. Kaep looks like he's throwing knuckle balls on touch throws.
- eforbes12
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I know people don't like those Air Raid QBs, but this guy really has a knack for seeing the whole field. And obviously the arm strength is fantastic. But what he as to me that puts him ahead of Trubisky is his guts. He seems to have no fear. And he throws timing routes surprisingly well, so I don't think this will be a problem at all.
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TCU frustrated mahomes...lot of 3 man pressure forcing him to be patient.left a perfectly good pocket several times..eyes down and wants out pic.twitter.com/gLLccRtTL8
— Mike Mayock (@MikeMayock) February 13, 2017
Where have we heard that before
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by KPaul:
Originally posted by Mertonschickendance:
Originally posted by ninerAxe:
Seems like another guy whose stock will rise like Wentz. VERY intriguing especially imagining him in Chip's offense.
Someone please tell me how he's better than Kap? Look really similar
Kaep seems like a pretty fair comparison coming out of college. The ball just seems to jump out of his hands effortlessly.. Kaep looks like he's throwing knuckle balls on touch throws.
That's not true at all...both have cannon arms but IMO reading defense isn't either's thing. I've watch Mahomes miss on easy plays far too much and running around scrambling when there's no need.
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
TCU frustrated mahomes...lot of 3 man pressure forcing him to be patient.left a perfectly good pocket several times..eyes down and wants out pic.twitter.com/gLLccRtTL8
— Mike Mayock (@MikeMayock) February 13, 2017
Where have we heard that before
Enough of these damn spread/aid raid QB's.
We're running the WCO now people! Let these other teams fail on their Kaepernick II/RGIV's. We're now looking for the polar opposite type of QB.
After the debacle that Kyle personally witnessed/experienced with RGIII and Manziel, why would anyone assume he'd be looking for a similar-mold QB now that HE finally has control over the QB-pick?
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
TCU frustrated mahomes...lot of 3 man pressure forcing him to be patient.left a perfectly good pocket several times..eyes down and wants out pic.twitter.com/gLLccRtTL8
— Mike Mayock (@MikeMayock) February 13, 2017
Where have we heard that before
This Patrick Mahomes is a treat to watch ..2 angles- smacked in face vs Cov 0- somehow gets ball in right vicinity..gunslinger with gut feel pic.twitter.com/myJh8n6TVP
— Mike Mayock (@MikeMayock) February 13, 2017
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
TCU frustrated mahomes...lot of 3 man pressure forcing him to be patient.left a perfectly good pocket several times..eyes down and wants out pic.twitter.com/gLLccRtTL8
— Mike Mayock (@MikeMayock) February 13, 2017
Where have we heard that before
Enough of these damn spread/aid raid QB's.
We're running the WCO now people! Let these other teams fail on their Kaepernick II/RGIV's. We're now looking for the polar opposite type of QB.
After the debacle that Kyle personally witnessed/experienced with RGIII and Manziel, why would anyone assume he'd be looking for a similar-mold QB now that HE finally has control over the QB-pick?
I'm with you NC I couldn't agree more!!!
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Enough of these damn spread/aid raid QB's.
We're running the WCO now people! Let these other teams fail on their Kaepernick II/RGIV's. We're now looking for the polar opposite type of QB.
After the debacle that Kyle personally witnessed/experienced with RGIII and Manziel, why would anyone assume he'd be looking for a similar-mold QB now that HE finally has control over the QB-pick?
Who knows
If we can't make a realistic trade for JG then just draft Peterman in the 3rd (if Kyle doesn't like the top guys). Grab some bridge type QB this yr and go all in on Kirk in 2018 or someone like Rosen.
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Enough of these damn spread/aid raid QB's.
We're running the WCO now people! Let these other teams fail on their Kaepernick II/RGIV's. We're now looking for the polar opposite type of QB.
After the debacle that Kyle personally witnessed/experienced with RGIII and Manziel, why would anyone assume he'd be looking for a similar-mold QB now that HE finally has control over the QB-pick?
Who knowsIf we can't make a realistic trade for JG then just draft Peterman in the 3rd (if Kyle doesn't like the top guys). Grab some bridge type QB this yr and go all in on Kirk in 2018 or someone like Rosen.
Right? Who knows; that's an understatement and you even brought up 2018 which Kyle/Lynch will be thinking about as well. So much to digest. For now, I'm focused on "best fits for the WCO," reviewing his criteria for QB's overall (check the boxes) and focused on his past experiences (with athletic QB's vs. more prototypical-types in his offense); I think when you say, "WWKD?" it becomes a bit more clear. Then again, this is the first time he'll have full control so he could end up blowing all our minds. LOL
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Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
TCU frustrated mahomes...lot of 3 man pressure forcing him to be patient.left a perfectly good pocket several times..eyes down and wants out pic.twitter.com/gLLccRtTL8
— Mike Mayock (@MikeMayock) February 13, 2017
Where have we heard that before
This Patrick Mahomes is a treat to watch ..2 angles- smacked in face vs Cov 0- somehow gets ball in right vicinity..gunslinger with gut feel pic.twitter.com/myJh8n6TVP
— Mike Mayock (@MikeMayock) February 13, 2017
TBH he probably should've taken a sack.