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The Not So Baalke-like Mock (No trades)
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Apr 2, 2016 at 9:30 AM
- Andra
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Not a big fan of get a CB in the 1st round but you are right VH might very well end up being the BPA when the Niners pick at #7. Solid mock
Apr 2, 2016 at 9:56 AM
- NYniner85
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pass on CB high...I just can't see drafting a CB unless he's a true lock down guy that can take away half of the field. I don't see that in VH3
the rest of the mock is on the money though so if it did go down this way I could live with it.... rather go QB at 7 we have no long-term answer at QB (seriously we don't have anyone signed past this year I don't really count Kap's year to year deal.)
I can see Garnett a Niner Chip was all over him at his pro-day guessing he's a 2nd round pick though. Butler is my draft crush so love that. Not huge on Peake, I'd rather go Carroo who's more proven and we are working out.
the rest of the mock is on the money though so if it did go down this way I could live with it.... rather go QB at 7 we have no long-term answer at QB (seriously we don't have anyone signed past this year I don't really count Kap's year to year deal.)
I can see Garnett a Niner Chip was all over him at his pro-day guessing he's a 2nd round pick though. Butler is my draft crush so love that. Not huge on Peake, I'd rather go Carroo who's more proven and we are working out.
Apr 2, 2016 at 10:12 AM
- Ninerfan84
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Yeah, it's less than ideal but I went with a no trade mock. This would be worst case scenario for us at #7, if we decide not to go with Goff. If Jack, Bosa, and Buckner are off the board I would prefer to trade down a few spots and take our "Plan B" options such as Stanley, Hargreaves, or Dodd. I see #7 getting a lot of trade attention if Goff and Elliot are still on the board.
Apr 2, 2016 at 10:40 AM
- LasVegasWally
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Good mock and agree that Baalke doesn't take CB high in draft.
Other than #1, I really like it - especially the Butler pick.
Other than #1, I really like it - especially the Butler pick.
Apr 2, 2016 at 10:53 AM
- Ninerfan84
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Depth Chart
Offense
QB: Kap, Gabbert, Allen PS (2)
RB: Hyde, Draughn, Harris, Ervin (4)
X: Smith, White
Z: Smelter, Patton
Slot: Patton, Peake, Ellington (6)
TE: Celek, McDonald, Bell, Duarte/Anderson (4)
LT: Staley, Brown/Beavers
LG: Beadles, Tiller, Thomas
C: Kilgore, Martin
RG: Garnett, Tiller, Dahl PS
RT: Davis (if he returns), Brown (10)
RDE: Butler/Dial
NT: Williams, Butler, Purcell
LDE: Armstead, Dorsey (6)
ROLB: Lynch, Harold
ILB: Bowman, Wilhoite
ILB: Hodges, Martinez
LOLB: Brooks, Fackrell (8)
CB: Hargreaves, Brock
CB: DJ, Acker
Slot: Ward, Reaser (6)
FS: Reid, Ward
SS: Bethea, Tartt, McCray (4)
P: Pinion
K: Dawson
LS: Nelson (3)
Offense
QB: Kap, Gabbert, Allen PS (2)
RB: Hyde, Draughn, Harris, Ervin (4)
X: Smith, White
Z: Smelter, Patton
Slot: Patton, Peake, Ellington (6)
TE: Celek, McDonald, Bell, Duarte/Anderson (4)
LT: Staley, Brown/Beavers
LG: Beadles, Tiller, Thomas
C: Kilgore, Martin
RG: Garnett, Tiller, Dahl PS
RT: Davis (if he returns), Brown (10)
RDE: Butler/Dial
NT: Williams, Butler, Purcell
LDE: Armstead, Dorsey (6)
ROLB: Lynch, Harold
ILB: Bowman, Wilhoite
ILB: Hodges, Martinez
LOLB: Brooks, Fackrell (8)
CB: Hargreaves, Brock
CB: DJ, Acker
Slot: Ward, Reaser (6)
FS: Reid, Ward
SS: Bethea, Tartt, McCray (4)
P: Pinion
K: Dawson
LS: Nelson (3)
[ Edited by Ninerfan84 on Apr 2, 2016 at 10:54 AM ]
Apr 2, 2016 at 10:56 AM
- Ninerfan84
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Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
Good mock and agree that Baalke doesn't take CB high in draft.
Other than #1, I really like it - especially the Butler pick.
Thanks, yeah just doing something different other than the usual Goff or Buckner mock. If Buckner drops to us I think he's the pick.
Apr 2, 2016 at 12:09 PM
- CorvaNinerFan
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It's a very solid mock...but for me, Baalke should go after Buckner. I like Butler, too, but Buckner bookending Armstead with Dial/Williams in the middle could become an outstanding front 3. I like the way you added LB's after upgrading the DL, something I've been advocating for all along.
An alternative to Peake could be Geronimo Allison (Illinois)...he has more experience and shined at both the Shrine and Senior Bowl against top competition.
Not sure Brandon Allen falls that far...it'd be great if he did, but he could well be gone by the 4th rd.
Both Beavers and Dahl project higher in the draft...I use Walter Football and NFL Draft Profiles a lot, and both sites project these guys to go earlier. It's possible Beavers falls to the 5th rd, but I don't see any way Dahl lasts 'til the 6th.
An alternative to Peake could be Geronimo Allison (Illinois)...he has more experience and shined at both the Shrine and Senior Bowl against top competition.
Not sure Brandon Allen falls that far...it'd be great if he did, but he could well be gone by the 4th rd.
Both Beavers and Dahl project higher in the draft...I use Walter Football and NFL Draft Profiles a lot, and both sites project these guys to go earlier. It's possible Beavers falls to the 5th rd, but I don't see any way Dahl lasts 'til the 6th.
Apr 2, 2016 at 12:27 PM
- Ninerfan84
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Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:
It's a very solid mock...but for me, Baalke should go after Buckner. I like Butler, too, but Buckner bookending Armstead with Dial/Williams in the middle could become an outstanding front 3. I like the way you added LB's after upgrading the DL, something I've been advocating for all along.
An alternative to Peake could be Geronimo Allison (Illinois)...he has more experience and shined at both the Shrine and Senior Bowl against top competition.
Not sure Brandon Allen falls that far...it'd be great if he did, but he could well be gone by the 4th rd.
Both Beavers and Dahl project higher in the draft...I use Walter Football and NFL Draft Profiles a lot, and both sites project these guys to go earlier. It's possible Beavers falls to the 5th rd, but I don't see any way Dahl lasts 'til the 6th.
I think Buckner is the top target as well, but Dallas would need to surprise and take Elliot or a QB with Bosa dropping to Baltimore. That or Baltimore takes Stanley instead of Buckner, if not we would need to trade up to 5.
Noted on Beavers and Dahl, but they were both projected in those areas but DraftScout and NFL.com. Thanks for the feedback..
Apr 2, 2016 at 12:49 PM
- davidboutte
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I love this draft. Vh3, butler, peake, Ervin, beavers, Dahl have all been in some of my mocks. I'm not a huge fan of the Garnett or Fackrell picks but overall great job
Apr 2, 2016 at 12:56 PM
- Phoenix49ers
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Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:
It's a very solid mock...but for me, Baalke should go after Buckner. I like Butler, too, but Buckner bookending Armstead with Dial/Williams in the middle could become an outstanding front 3. I like the way you added LB's after upgrading the DL, something I've been advocating for all along.
An alternative to Peake could be Geronimo Allison (Illinois)...he has more experience and shined at both the Shrine and Senior Bowl against top competition.
Not sure Brandon Allen falls that far...it'd be great if he did, but he could well be gone by the 4th rd.
Both Beavers and Dahl project higher in the draft...I use Walter Football and NFL Draft Profiles a lot, and both sites project these guys to go earlier. It's possible Beavers falls to the 5th rd, but I don't see any way Dahl lasts 'til the 6th.
Beavers is such a project that its almost inevitable that he ends up overdrafted. People rave about his movement and athleticism, usually followed up by "well yeah he needs to work on his technique", "well yeah he needs to be more consistent", "well yeah he is very raw, needs to add strength but he could be good someday."
Anytime I hear the phrase "raw tools" when describing an OL, something which was often said about Marcus Martin in particular, I get worried.
Apr 2, 2016 at 1:04 PM
- LasVegasWally
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:
It's a very solid mock...but for me, Baalke should go after Buckner. I like Butler, too, but Buckner bookending Armstead with Dial/Williams in the middle could become an outstanding front 3. I like the way you added LB's after upgrading the DL, something I've been advocating for all along.
An alternative to Peake could be Geronimo Allison (Illinois)...he has more experience and shined at both the Shrine and Senior Bowl against top competition.
Not sure Brandon Allen falls that far...it'd be great if he did, but he could well be gone by the 4th rd.
Both Beavers and Dahl project higher in the draft...I use Walter Football and NFL Draft Profiles a lot, and both sites project these guys to go earlier. It's possible Beavers falls to the 5th rd, but I don't see any way Dahl lasts 'til the 6th.
Beavers is such a project that its almost inevitable that he ends up overdrafted. People rave about his movement and athleticism, usually followed up by "well yeah he needs to work on his technique", "well yeah he needs to be more consistent", "well yeah he is very raw, needs to add strength but he could be good someday."
Anytime I hear the phrase "raw tools" when describing an OL, something which was often said about Marcus Martin in particular, I get worried.
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Apr 2, 2016 at 2:09 PM
- 9ersLiferInChicago
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Not a fan of picking a QB outside of the 2nd, in particularly this season and definitely not Brandon Adams. Blake Martinez will not push Wilhoite at all (and I'm no fan of Wilhoite).
Apr 2, 2016 at 2:17 PM
- Phoenix49ers
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Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Not a fan of picking a QB outside of the 2nd, in particularly this season and definitely not Brandon Adams. Blake Martinez will not push Wilhoite at all (and I'm no fan of Wilhoite).
Drafting a QB to compete for 3rd string QB is pretty useless. If you're going to take a QB, take one early, a legit franchise QB prospect.
Apr 2, 2016 at 3:50 PM
- stonecold590
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Not a fan of CB at 7. I would be surprised if Garnett is still there in the 3rd
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