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Deshaun Watson, QB, Clemson - Legit alternative to Jared Goff in 2017?
Nov 5, 2016 at 8:10 PM
- Tman
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Watson looked fantastic today, Cam Newton came to mind a few times when I watched him
Nov 5, 2016 at 11:33 PM
- TheBlueHell
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He is supposedly going to be fine for practice Monday.
Nov 6, 2016 at 4:59 PM
- jersey49er
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After yesterdays 1st half performance I cant see how anyone can question anything about this kid, yes it was vs Syracuse but no matter what he stll has to make the throws and plays, and those passes he hit were not guardable no matter who was defending..if the niners have a chance at drafting him they should..
Nov 6, 2016 at 5:09 PM
- Phoenix49ers
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I've scouted Deshaun Watson twice in person and had two very different thoughts about him after both games. The first time I watched him live was against Oklahoma in a College Football Playoff semifinal last season, and I came away extremely impressed with his play. My belief was that if he continued to build off of the performance I witnessed that night at the Orange Bowl, he would cement himself as a franchise-caliber QB in the eyes of scouts.
This past weekend, I watched Clemson take on Florida State, and once again, Watson got the win. However, I haven't seen the growth I was hoping (and expecting) to see from Watson as a passer and now my opinion of him as a pro quarterback prospect isn't as bullish as it used to be. Here's a look at his strengths, weaknesses and comparison.
Strengths: Watson has the desired height (6-foot-3, per school measurements) and pocket posture teams look for. Watson usually throws with a solid base and balance. He keeps the ball tucked near his body when scanning the field. He has the arm strength to drive the ball into the seam with good velocity thanks to his lower body torque. He has a compact release and a good release point (ball comes out with flick of the wrist). Possesses big, strong hands to pump fake and manipulate defensive backs. Has instant juice out of the pocket to make the defense pay if rush lanes are vacated. Extremely dangerous with his feet near the end zone. Has the ability to take over games with his feet when his accuracy wanes. Has shown consistent leadership traits and finds ways to win games.
Weaknesses:Will sail some throws when cutting it loose. Far too many of his interceptions are due to bad throws, lack of vision or staring down targets. Watson was duped into interceptions twice by Florida State cornerbacks on Saturday. His deep-ball accuracy can be scatter-shot, as he'll badly overthrow targets at times. His accuracy on crossing routes and slant routes, which should be relatively easy throws, needs to improve. His field vision can be very hit or miss. Watson gets locked onto a target and fails to see the simple throw come open. Could have difficulty transitioning from his limited-read college scheme to an NFL scheme. His leanness in his lower body might create some concerns considering his success as a runner.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000732112/article/dare-to-compare-nfl-comp-for-clemson-qb-deshaun-watson
NFL comp: Marcus Mariota As college football has become more wide open over the years, the need for dual-threat quarterbacks has increased at the college level, as they are more apt at attacking all aspects of the defense.
College Football 24/7 Hot Topics: Tracking CFB's top 10 players in Week 10 NFL players react to Week 10 Updated draft order and team needs Watson draws Mariota comp
However, there have only been a handful of quarterbacks from zone-read college schemes that have become successful NFL starters. Watson has the size, leadership attributes and passing mechanics that are necessary for the position. He's not currently showing the field vision and decision-making ability to become a more consistent passer from the pocket, though.
For his comp, let's go with Tennessee Titans QB Marcus Mariota. Mariota has good size and great speed, like Watson. He was a consistent winner at the college level (at Oregon), like Watson, and they played in similar offensive schemes in college. I think Watson has better upside as a passer than Mariota, while Mariota was more careful with the football in college than Watson has been, at times.
Both players can hit explosive plays on the move. They have similar physical traits and similar ceilings as NFL quarterbacks.
Nov 6, 2016 at 5:49 PM
- FL9er
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That's actually a good, fair comparison.
Nov 6, 2016 at 8:55 PM
- Rascal
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OK, for me Kizer is definitely out, the kid is way overrated.
Watson is looking very good, but I also think Mitch Tribusky is looking really good too. Man, I just don't know how to pick between the two for now...Need to watch more football I guess.
Watson is looking very good, but I also think Mitch Tribusky is looking really good too. Man, I just don't know how to pick between the two for now...Need to watch more football I guess.
Nov 12, 2016 at 12:52 PM
- bors
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Bad int in the endzone on first drive
Nov 12, 2016 at 12:58 PM
- Tman
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Originally posted by bors:Bad int in the endzone on first drive
11 ints for him so far this year
Nov 12, 2016 at 12:59 PM
- Kolohe
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Hmmm another INT.
His fault or receivers? lol
His fault or receivers? lol
Nov 12, 2016 at 1:02 PM
- Heroism
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100% his fault. stared down his read from the second the ball was snapped.
https://vine.co/v/5Irww2FaLuv
very frustrating watching watson. i want him to separate himself from the pack so bad, but he'll take 1 step forward, then 2 steps back.
https://vine.co/v/5Irww2FaLuv
very frustrating watching watson. i want him to separate himself from the pack so bad, but he'll take 1 step forward, then 2 steps back.
[ Edited by Heroism on Nov 12, 2016 at 1:02 PM ]
Nov 12, 2016 at 1:09 PM
- Kolohe
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Nice pass to Mike Williams though, would love to have Williams but I think the need for the best pass rusher is more important.
Nov 12, 2016 at 1:51 PM
- TheBlueHell
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That was clearly a terrible INT, but he is throwing darts to Williams and others now. He had a great sequence there where he took off when things broke down and ran for what he could (5 yards), then took off when things broke down again but kept his eyes downfield and threw a middle crosser for a big gain, then threw a perfect back shoulder/fade to Mike Williams for the TD.
Nov 12, 2016 at 1:52 PM
- NorthBay49er
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If he's available when 9ers pick do they draft him
Nov 12, 2016 at 2:05 PM
- Heroism
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another int. smh
Nov 12, 2016 at 2:13 PM
- susweel
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Meh late 1st round at best.