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Dec 21, 2015 at 4:22 PM
- okdkid
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If we can sneak in a win here at the end we'll likely be picking 8-12.
Dec 21, 2015 at 5:33 PM
- genz22
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Hard to sneak a win in when you have the worst oline in football and no running back.
PS.... And worst coach.
PS.... And worst coach.
[ Edited by genz22 on Dec 21, 2015 at 5:34 PM ]
Dec 21, 2015 at 5:59 PM
- okdkid
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Originally posted by genz22:
Hard to sneak a win in when you have the worst oline in football and no running back.
PS.... And worst coach.
We have a real shot!
Dec 21, 2015 at 6:39 PM
- 49oz2superbowl
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From the scenarios I looked at today the worst case scenarios (assuming all other teams we're competing for draft position lose out would be...
We win these next two games- Worst Case Pick @ 17
We win one more game- Worst Case Pick @11
We lose out- Worst Case Pick @ 6 (assuming Lions win tonight which looks like a lock)
I can't imagine any true fan wanting to win these last 2 meaningless games, especially given the talent drop off after the blue chip prospects in the Top 10 (Goff, Tunsil, Bosa, Stanley, Hargreaves, Jaylon Smith). Also consider the fact that any wins will help Jed justify keeping this staff which to me is even worse than our draft position. I want us to lose and lose badly because this is not a reload situation, it's a rebuild and we need to blow this s**thole of a team up.
We win these next two games- Worst Case Pick @ 17
We win one more game- Worst Case Pick @11
We lose out- Worst Case Pick @ 6 (assuming Lions win tonight which looks like a lock)
I can't imagine any true fan wanting to win these last 2 meaningless games, especially given the talent drop off after the blue chip prospects in the Top 10 (Goff, Tunsil, Bosa, Stanley, Hargreaves, Jaylon Smith). Also consider the fact that any wins will help Jed justify keeping this staff which to me is even worse than our draft position. I want us to lose and lose badly because this is not a reload situation, it's a rebuild and we need to blow this s**thole of a team up.
Dec 21, 2015 at 6:57 PM
- NinerSickness
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Originally posted by GrumpyDad:
Gould is the Antichrist.
I'm still pissed at Steve Smith for dropping 2 TDs as well.
Dec 21, 2015 at 7:40 PM
- FL9er
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Originally posted by NinerSickness:
I'm still pissed at Steve Smith for dropping 2 TDs as well.
If Justin Tucker doesn't slip on the sod, they only need a FG on the final drive.
Dec 21, 2015 at 8:43 PM
- GrumpyDad
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nice job Lions. thanks
Dec 21, 2015 at 8:46 PM
- mayo49
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[ Edited by mayo49 on Dec 22, 2015 at 1:45 AM ]
Dec 22, 2015 at 1:46 AM
- mayo49
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Updated order: 5/22
1 Tennessee Titans 3-11 .490
2 Cleveland Browns 3-11 .520
3 Baltimore Ravens 4-10 .490
4 San Diego Chargers 4-10 .510
5 Dallas Cowboys 4-10 .551
6 San Francisco 49ers 4-10 .571
7 Miami Dolphins 5-9 .449
8 Jacksonville Jaguars 5-9 .469
9 New Orleans Saints 5-9 .526
10 Chicago Bears 5-9 .561
11 Detroit Lions 5-9 .561
12 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 6-8 .449
13 New York Giants 6-8 .490
14 Oakland Raiders 6-8 .515
15 Philadelphia Eagles 6-8 .520
16 Buffalo Bills 6-8 .526
17 Indianapolis Colts 6-8 .536
18 St. Louis Rams 6-8 .541
19 Atlanta Falcons 7-7 .449
20 New York Jets 9-5 .413
21 Minnesota Vikings 9-5 –
22 Pittsburgh Steelers 9-5 –
23 Seattle Seahawks 9-5 –
24 Kansas City Chiefs 9-5 –
25 Washington Redskins 7-7 –
26 Houston Texans 7-7 –
27 Green Bay Packers 10-4 –
28 Denver Broncos 10-4 –
29 Cincinnati Bengals 11-3 –
30 Arizona Cardinals 12-2 –
31 New England Patriots* 12-2 –
32 Carolina Panthers 14-0 –
http://www.49erswebzone.com/news/90013-mnf-49ers-stay-put-sixth-2016-draft-order/#sthash.XR3CrS7u.dpuf
1 Tennessee Titans 3-11 .490
2 Cleveland Browns 3-11 .520
3 Baltimore Ravens 4-10 .490
4 San Diego Chargers 4-10 .510
5 Dallas Cowboys 4-10 .551
6 San Francisco 49ers 4-10 .571
7 Miami Dolphins 5-9 .449
8 Jacksonville Jaguars 5-9 .469
9 New Orleans Saints 5-9 .526
10 Chicago Bears 5-9 .561
11 Detroit Lions 5-9 .561
12 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 6-8 .449
13 New York Giants 6-8 .490
14 Oakland Raiders 6-8 .515
15 Philadelphia Eagles 6-8 .520
16 Buffalo Bills 6-8 .526
17 Indianapolis Colts 6-8 .536
18 St. Louis Rams 6-8 .541
19 Atlanta Falcons 7-7 .449
20 New York Jets 9-5 .413
21 Minnesota Vikings 9-5 –
22 Pittsburgh Steelers 9-5 –
23 Seattle Seahawks 9-5 –
24 Kansas City Chiefs 9-5 –
25 Washington Redskins 7-7 –
26 Houston Texans 7-7 –
27 Green Bay Packers 10-4 –
28 Denver Broncos 10-4 –
29 Cincinnati Bengals 11-3 –
30 Arizona Cardinals 12-2 –
31 New England Patriots* 12-2 –
32 Carolina Panthers 14-0 –
http://www.49erswebzone.com/news/90013-mnf-49ers-stay-put-sixth-2016-draft-order/#sthash.XR3CrS7u.dpuf
[ Edited by mayo49 on Dec 22, 2015 at 2:38 AM ]
Dec 22, 2015 at 5:52 AM
- AlmighT49er
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i could see the Chargers beating the Raiders next week which would give us #5 if we lose out. would not be surprised if we beat the Rams at home to close out the season 
Dec 22, 2015 at 6:10 AM
- WRATHman44
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Chargers, Cowboys, and Titans all have winnable games, imo. At least one of the should pull out a win. Ravens could surprise at home... but they won't. 
Dec 22, 2015 at 7:50 AM
- socal9er42
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Tennessee Titans remaining schedule:
vs . Houston
at Indianapolis
Cleveland Browns remaining schedule:
at KC
vs Pitt
Baltimore Ravens remaining schedule:
vs Pitt
at Cinc
San Diego:
at Oak
at Den
Dallas Schedule:
at BUF
vs Wash
Gazing into my Crystal Ball....
I don't see Tennessee, Cleveland, or Baltimore winning either of their remaining game as they are playing tough teams at home or are on the road against relatively equal teams. San Diego and Dallas might have a shot, but don't think it's very likely.
Leaves us at 6th if we lose out. Might sneak up to 4th, but that's about it.
If we win a game we will slide quite a ways down.
vs . Houston
at Indianapolis
Cleveland Browns remaining schedule:
at KC
vs Pitt
Baltimore Ravens remaining schedule:
vs Pitt
at Cinc
San Diego:
at Oak
at Den
Dallas Schedule:
at BUF
vs Wash
Gazing into my Crystal Ball....
I don't see Tennessee, Cleveland, or Baltimore winning either of their remaining game as they are playing tough teams at home or are on the road against relatively equal teams. San Diego and Dallas might have a shot, but don't think it's very likely.
Leaves us at 6th if we lose out. Might sneak up to 4th, but that's about it.
If we win a game we will slide quite a ways down.
Dec 22, 2015 at 7:58 AM
- genus49
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The idea of going 4-12 and picking outside the top 5 is fuking ridiculous.
IMO the strength of schedule thing is backwards. The idea of the draft is to reward teams who are really screwed. Bad & without a chance to improve much on their own.
It's easier for a team playing an easy schedule to improve than one playing in a tougher division.
IMO the strength of schedule thing is backwards. The idea of the draft is to reward teams who are really screwed. Bad & without a chance to improve much on their own.
It's easier for a team playing an easy schedule to improve than one playing in a tougher division.
Dec 22, 2015 at 8:09 AM
- Phoenix49ers
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Originally posted by genus49:The idea of going 4-12 and picking outside the top 5 is fuking ridiculous.
Its an especially bad year to suck.
Now imagine going 5-11 and picking like 10 or 11.
Dec 22, 2015 at 8:12 AM
- Hysterikal
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:Its an especially bad year to suck.
Now imagine going 5-11 and picking like 10 or 11.
Well the jinx is in...
