A big question that the combine might help answer is how bad do his foot problems appear in both the short and long term...as the medical evaluations are one the most important,
( and often understated aspects) of that event....From my view unless your team has a good to great O-Line to pair with a "Great" RB then you do not draft him, ( as in "it worked for Dallas") , but that doesn't happen very often.
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Mar 1, 2017 at 7:39 PM
- highway49
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Mar 1, 2017 at 7:47 PM
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Originally posted by 9NERNATE:Originally posted by bzborow1:Originally posted by NYniner85:Originally posted by mutant-man49:If he's the next AP or better then there's no question you draft him at 2. You take the best player at the position and according to most big boards, he's right there. Sure, he's not a need but he has the ability to transcend the position. Pair him with Hyde for a year or two, limit his miles and when this team is ready to contend, he's an amazing weapon.
Yeah cause that worked out amazing for the Vikings...this team isn't a AP away from being good at all.
Also you need RBs that fit the ZBS imo fournette who is nasty isn't a ideal fit.
Trade down get a couple pieces and get one of the other 10 RBs that are pretty good.
I mean Gurley is really helping that LA team
You are giving bad examples. The Vikings and Rams weren't so good not because of their star RBs, but because of all the years of surrounding them with garbage. If you believe he's an Adrian Peterson type of RB and there is no QB worth it then it's a no brainer.
You cite them Vikes and Rams, I'll cite the Cowboys both Elliott and Emmitt Smith.
Smith? Yeah cause Aikman and Irvin didn't help?
Elliott? Yeah cause Dez and their incredible OL didn't help?
What about Lions Barry Sanders? Sanders is best running and without for quartback. Lions team was suck. If 49ers can do best than Viking team and Lions team? Ofc 49ers is all best history. Don't worry. Go 49ers baby!
[ Edited by BuZzB05 on Mar 1, 2017 at 7:48 PM ]
Mar 1, 2017 at 7:48 PM
- mutant-man49
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If he's AP or better you take him at 2. If you pass him up and he is as good as advertised, anyone you take at 2 unless it's a franchise QB won't come close to matching the impact and production. IF is a big question but you draft BPA at 2...ALWAYS!
Mar 1, 2017 at 7:55 PM
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Originally posted by BuZzB05:What about Lions Barry Sanders? Sanders is best running and without for quartback. Lions team was suck. If 49ers can do best than Viking team and Lions team? Ofc 49ers is all best history. Don't worry. Go 49ers baby!
Bringing up a team who still failed to WIN with a great RB isn't helping your arguement
Mar 1, 2017 at 8:03 PM
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You can diminish every single position in football by pointing out great players on losing teams. When was the last time Philip Rivers won f getting a qb. And as much as people say trade down well that takes a partner and it's no guarantee someone trades up for an average qb prospect with 4 of them available. Accept that we're going to have to have a pick ready too.
I don't want Fournette but I don't see a slam dunk pick either elsewhere for us.
I don't want Fournette but I don't see a slam dunk pick either elsewhere for us.
[ Edited by tjd808185 on Mar 1, 2017 at 8:06 PM ]
Mar 1, 2017 at 8:18 PM
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Originally posted by tjd808185:
You can diminish every single position in football by pointing out great players on losing teams. When was the last time Philip Rivers won f getting a qb. And as much as people say trade down well that takes a partner and it's no guarantee someone trades up for an average qb prospect with 4 of them available. Accept that we're going to have to have a pick ready too.
I don't want Fournette but I don't see a slam dunk pick either elsewhere for us.
Defense. There are a few really special prospects in this draft that should be available at #2 and would also fill a position of need.
Mar 1, 2017 at 8:33 PM
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Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
You can diminish every single position in football by pointing out great players on losing teams. When was the last time Philip Rivers won f getting a qb. And as much as people say trade down well that takes a partner and it's no guarantee someone trades up for an average qb prospect with 4 of them available. Accept that we're going to have to have a pick ready too.
I don't want Fournette but I don't see a slam dunk pick either elsewhere for us.
Defense. There are a few really special prospects in this draft that should be available at #2 and would also fill a position of need.
I don't trust Carlos Hyde his style won't last in the NFL as long as Fournette checks the boxes is all for it he's a special talent.
Mar 1, 2017 at 10:19 PM
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Originally posted by NYniner85:Originally posted by mutant-man49:Thus why I said you split him with Hyde for a year or two and when this team is ready, you have a lmonster.
It's always easy to say, trade down, but you need a dance partner and no one is trading up in this draft for those QBs.
Who's taking about Gurley?? The comp is AP. He's even higher rated than Zeke and he was thought to have been the best graded RB since AP to come out.
And like I said what has AP done for the Vikings? How many rings they got?
RB is bottom of the pole on needs for this team
How? Hyde can't last a season
Mar 1, 2017 at 10:22 PM
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I know RB isn't a position of immediate need but how often do you get a chance to get a potential once in a generation RB? It's tough to pass on, and I bet kyle is thinking that. I know we need defense but a special running back will do wonders.
Mar 1, 2017 at 10:23 PM
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At #2 you take BPA. After Garrett there isn't another sure fire player. I would not be mad if we took Fournette/Trubisky at #2.
[ Edited by mayo49 on Mar 1, 2017 at 10:30 PM ]
Mar 1, 2017 at 10:39 PM
- jcs
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Originally posted by mayo49:
At #2 you take BPA. After Garrett there isn't another sure fire player. I would not be mad if we took Fournette/Trubisky at #2.
I think J.Allen is. Kid is going to put up the physical numbers this week to go with his production in college.
Mar 1, 2017 at 10:46 PM
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With how ridiculously rich this draft is in talent, there's a good chance Fournette isn't even the best 'back when we reflect in a couple seasons.
Mar 1, 2017 at 10:49 PM
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Originally posted by mayo49:At #2 you take BPA. After Garrett there isn't another sure fire player. I would not be mad if we took Fournette/Trubisky at #2.
So you think trubisky is bpa at 2? Give me fournette instead.
Mar 1, 2017 at 10:52 PM
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Originally posted by Heroism:
With how ridiculously rich this draft is in talent, there's a good chance Fournette isn't even the best 'back when we reflect in a couple seasons.
I don't get this line of reasoning. Its a strong class yes, but there is no doubt that Fournette is at the top of this class. So that says even more about Fournette.
Its not like he is some surprise prospect. The kid has been the #1 ranked prospect at every level he has played. Coming out of high school he was regarded as the #1 recruit in the nation. And he has carried that rank through college. His history shows that baring extremely unfortunate circumstances that he will be dominate.
Mar 1, 2017 at 10:54 PM
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It's pretty simple reasoning: the best running backs in the NFL right now(David Johnson and Leveon Bell) didn't even go in the first round.