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Originally posted by kronik:
nice post, well said.
Also want to mention that the niners infused alot of speed during this draft. Something we sorely need imo. Guys like Ward, Ellington, Dontae Johnson, Millard and particularly CB Reaser, cousin of the late Sean Taylor.
Originally posted by matt49er:
Writing is on the wall for Iupati with the Martin and Thomas picks, he's as good as gone. Getting Stevie Johnson and drafting Ellington protects us if Crabs does walk but I still think we try hard to keep him. Boldin is only going to be around 2 more years, I like both Johnson and Ellington but I don't think either are #1 WRs, we will try hard to keep Crabs and I think ultimately, we end up extending him and Kaep this off season and Aldon either after this season or next.
Originally posted by VANiner:
Good post. People forget (or never consider) the points you made. I know the general consensus for most fans was for the team to get a highly touted WR or CB or both. The Niners simply didn't see the value in taking one of those guys high and didn't think they were going to A) supplant a current starter on the team or B) or be worth their draft position for what they would actually bring to the team.
Based on this draft, including the Johnson trade, and taking into account your points above, here are the areas on this team that are better to significantly better than they were on Tuesday:
-Secondary (based on Ward alone and what he brings in range)
-O Line (significantly better)
-WRs (Johnson and Ellington make this a much better unit)
-RBs (Hyde will rotate now and be a major contributor with Lattimore in the future)
-Special Teams (most of these guys will help immensely in this area)
-ILBs (Borland was a top rated ILB and helps with depth and ST)
All in all, with the future in mind, this team is better both short and long term after this draft.
Originally posted by Garlicboy:
Honestly I hope Crabtree leaves. I think Richard Sherman psyched him out with all the trash talk. '
Boldin is "the man" at WR at this. Seahawk DB's mess with Crabtree, but know better than to mess with Anquan Boldin cause he'll -itch slap you.
I feel as though the 49ers can try and move up next year and get that big speed outside receiver. Only speedster's worthy of being drafted in the 1st were Sammy Watkins and Beckham and they went early.
I think next year's class may have some speedsters that the 49ers can pick up in the late first. We'll see what happens.
Originally posted by eonblue:
The only part of the offense that would be "psyched" out is Kaepernick. He's literally thrown like 8-10 INTs over the last 2 seasons against that secondary and he looks like a ghost every time he plays them.
Originally posted by Garlicboy:
That secondary is pretty frickin. I don't think he's psyched out, but hard to trust Crabtree after you give him a shot 2x's in the cluth.
I'm ready to take my chances w/Stevie Johnson. I like his swagger and he has the game to back it up.
3- 1,000 yard receiving seasons w/JP Losman and Ryan Fitzpatrick throwing to you, says a lot about this guys game.
Originally posted by eonblue:
I think you have to consider 1 the cap is going to go up every year for the next couple of years and 2 we're going to be offloading some big contracts/not extending some big contracts over the next two years. I love the way we essentially drafted starters but I don't think as many core/rotation players are going to slip through the cracks if we resign Crab, Kaep, and Aldon.
Originally posted by eonblue:
Sorry we don't agree. Kaep was ghost white after he threw that last int in the NGCCG. Don't know what game you were watching but Crab had nothing to do with Kaep blowing HIS moment in the clutch. Will just have to wait and see. If Crab has a big season he deserves to get paid.
Originally posted by Garlicboy:
Finances, Free Agency and the Future are the main reasons the 49ers drafted the way they did with Best Player Available, regardless of position. The 49ers had a GREAT draft because it addressed Future free agency and addressed these needs. The following analysis is for all the whiners who forget that there is a salary cap. The salary cap is a limiting factor, but the 49ers have had the foresight to address this issue before it becomes a problem and incredibly have set themselves up for continued success by shrewd draft day moves and understanding of the impact of signing and losing free agents beyond the playing field i.e. compensatory picks. Their ability to keep their finances low, and draft replacements right before they are needed (i.e. player free agency) has set them up for continued success in the future.
Financially, the 49ers are going to have a HUGE contract to address, Colin Kaepernick's. Anywhere from $15-$20 million/year. That being said, the other high priced free agents will more than likely have to be let go next year are Michael Crabtree and Mike Iupati. Thus the draft moves this year addressed those two major positions. I am including the trade of WR Stevie Johnson as part of that draft day moves. While a draft pick is a question mark in regards to actual NFL production Stevie Johnson is a known and proven commodity and will make less on average the next three years than what Michael Crabtree is making right now, $5.3 million and who knows how much MORE he's going to ask as a free agent, guessing near the $9 million/year mark. 3rd round pick OG Brandon Thomas is also a strong candidate to replace Mike Iupati next year however he will not occupy a roster spot this year yet will be afforded the opportunity to learn the playbook and style of play of his fellow teammates and more importantly, fellow linemen.