Phoenix49ers Post-Combine Mock Draft | Page 2

Phoenix49ers · 2014-02-25T11:06:02-08:00

Round 1-Jason Verrett-CB-TCU-5'9", 189. Verrett has had himself a very good Combine, his size will ultimately drop him down a bit but he's shown he's got the athleticism(4.38 40 and 39" vertical) to go along with his college resume and a reputation as a ball-hawk. He's a guy who plays the ball very well in the air, times his jumps well to deflect passes or intercept them. He's been highly productive during his time at TCU and has 9 INT's and over 40 passes deflected in 3 years at TCU. He's a Fairfield, California kid who went to Santa Rosa JC before coming over to TCU. I think you draft him, make him the slot corner from day one and solidify that weakness in the secondary with Brown and Culliver on the outside. Round 2-Donte Moncrief-WR-Ole Miss-6'2", 222. The closest thing in this draft to Josh Gordon. Tremendous leaper who attacks the football in the air, good downfield speed and reliable hands that has been productive against some of the best defenses in college football. He's had a very good Combine and the 49ers most likely would have to trade up a little for him but he's a guy with true #1 potential in the NFL. He's also a quality, willing run blocker which never hurts with this team. If the 49ers were truly interested in Josh Gordon earlier in the season, then I'd think they have to be watching Moncrief very closely. Round 2-Marcus Martin-C-USC-6'3", 310. I like Martin a lot, his upside is tremendous. He's relatively raw so if Kilgore can hold down the center position for a year , Martin could develop into a true upper-echelon NFL center. Particularly talented in pass protection with good athleticism for his size, Martin is someone who can turn in a very dominant player given a year to sit back, watch and learn. Round 3-Marqueston Huff-FS/CB-Wyoming-5'11", 198. Very fluid athlete who showed well at the Senior Bowl. Moves his hips very well, solid size for the position, is capable of performing at either CB or FS. Excellent depth in the secondary, an outstanding special teams performer and a potential starter at safety down the road. Round 3-Bruce Ellington-WR-South Carolina-5'9", 197. I might be a little optimistic here but I expect Ellington fall around the mid to late 3rd round range considering the amount of WR's in this draft. He's an outstanding and highly underrated prospect, a perfect slot receiver. He's been a two sport athlete at South Carolina, playing both football and basketball. He tested very well at the Combine showing tremendous athleticism(39.5" vertical) and doing well in the field drills. He's a very fluid looking receiver with good balance, a somewhat limited but talented route-runner, very good hands, snatches the ball right out of the air and possessing the speed and quickness to threaten defenses deep. Utilizes a stutter-step and doubles moves very well to get defensive backs off of him, does especially well on comeback routes. A talented, athletic receiver to develop with the ability to potentially contribute as a returner. . Small-school prospect that was not given a Combine invite. A fairly raw but highly talented player with terrific size for the position. Looked very good at the Senior Bowl, a rather freakish athlete with very good leaping ability, he drew a lot of praise for his quick feet and agility considering his overall size. He's someone that the 49ers could develop to eventually become a starter on the outside. Coleman had a very good Combine and a result will likely move up the boards. He has pretty much the ideal build for a 3-4 DE, could also contribute at NT. An ideal run-stopping 3-4 DE type. . I can see Murray taking a free-fall after his injury and due to his diminutive size for a guy who isn't particularly athletic or elusive. I still like him as a high quality backup QB. He's experienced and has done well against some of the best defenses in the SEC, a guy with the propensity to make clutch plays and a cool-headed, smart leader out on the field. One of the most ready to contribute QB's in this draft. . Millard is the ultimate swiss-army knife type. He blocks well, runs well with the football and is a tremendous receiver out of the backfield all combined with some terrific athleticism. If there's a guy who can handle the Delanie Walker role out there, Millard would be my choice, his versatility allows you to plug him in at fullback, tight-end or even line him up out wide which Roman seems to love doing with bigger guys. Coming off a major injury, the 49ers could potentially stow him away on the IR for a year, giving him a chance to recover. Beyond be a very good player and athlete, he's a hard worker, a team leader and just a guy with a good head on his shoulders who loves the game of football. . Uber-athletic super freak. He's just a pure athlete that dominated at the Combine. He ran a 4.41 40, benched for 32 reps, had a 40.5" vertical, a 132 inch broad jump and a 4.12 in the 3 cone shuttle. He played a variety of positions at Georgia Southern including RB, WR, QB and CB. He's been training and working out at safety. This is a guy I could see the 49ers taking for the purpose of developing as a safety. In the meantime I can see him being an outstanding special teams performer. . Underrated CB prospect that the 49ers have already met with. A developmental prospect that they could potentially stash on the practice squad. Good size and agility for the position, has some character issues, got booted out of UCLA. Based on on-field performance, he's pretty good value here. I would draft him just for this play alone.

Feb 25, 2014 at 12:08 PM

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Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
I hope that Baalke will trade up for a better, taller CB. They may have to trade up for Moncrief. There's no room on the 53 for a dozen guys.

Brown
Goodwin
Manningham
Dobbs
McCoy
Dixon
Osgood
Cox

+2 guys on IR and 1 guy on the practice squad.

Not saying it will happen, just saying, don't think it can't. Most people were panning whether or not the 49ers would draft as many players as they did last season too.

Feb 25, 2014 at 12:08 PM

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Originally posted by lamontb:
Here comes the height monsters

Feb 25, 2014 at 12:08 PM

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Worst mock ever, don't quit your day job. Kidding! Good mock. Couple questions... Is this mock with the assumption that Whitner is back and Huff is the understudy? And who's the 2 starting CB with your mock, Brock and Cully with Verrett at slot? And the thing I liked most about the mock: the gif of Shaq Richardson at end.

Feb 25, 2014 at 12:10 PM

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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
I hope that Baalke will trade up for a better, taller CB. They may have to trade up for Moncrief. There's no room on the 53 for a dozen guys.

Brown
Goodwin
Manningham
Dobbs
McCoy
Dixon
Osgood
Cox

+2 guys on IR and 1 guy on the practice squad.

Not saying it will happen, just saying, don't think it can't. Most people were panning whether or not the 49ers would draft as many players as they did last season too.

Isn't this a list from two years ago?

Feb 25, 2014 at 12:10 PM

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Originally posted by Travisty13:
Worst mock ever, don't quit your day job. Kidding! Good mock. Couple questions... Is this mock with the assumption that Whitner is back and Huff is the understudy? And who's the 2 starting CB with your mock, Brock and Cully with Verrett at slot? And the thing I liked most about the mock: the gif of Shaq Richardson at end.

Brock and Culliver on the outside, with Aikens behind them. Verrett at nickel corner.

And this is assuming that Whitner comes back and Dahl likely ends up being cut.

Feb 25, 2014 at 12:10 PM

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Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:

this

Feb 25, 2014 at 12:11 PM

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Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
I hope that Baalke will trade up for a better, taller CB. They may have to trade up for Moncrief. There's no room on the 53 for a dozen guys.

A better taller corner?

The only two CBs expected to go in front of Verrett are Gilbert and Dennard

Dennard is the same size(5'10 compared to 5'9) as him and same arm length(Dennard 30 1/4 Verrett 30 5/8).

Gilbert is a freak compared to them at 6'0 w/ 33.5 inch arms

Dennard isn't suited for slot IMO but I'm terrible at projecting positions, Gilbert will probably go in the top 10. Are you prepared to give up a Julio Jones sized bounty for a CB?

Feb 25, 2014 at 12:13 PM

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Originally posted by sfout:
A better taller corner?

The only two CBs expected to go in front of Verrett are Gilbert and Dennard

Dennard is the same size(5'10 compared to 5'9) as him and same arm length(Dennard 30 1/4 Verrett 30 5/8).

Gilbert is a freak compared to them at 6'0 w/ 33.5 inch arms

Dennard isn't suited for slot IMO but I'm terrible at projecting positions, Gilbert will probably go in the top 10. Are you prepared to give up a Julio Jones sized bounty for a CB?

This. People complaining about Verrett aren't offering any alternative solutions, just talking about a trade up that would gut this draft or some mystery alternative. There's nobody that is as much of a ballhawk as Verrett is. He's a guy who could help the takeaway numbers go back up again, making plays on the ball.

Those focusing on his height IMO are missing the forest through the trees. 49ers had their biggest troubles at the nickel corner spot, Rogers played slow, flat-footed at times, Verrett has the quickness to keep up with smaller receivers in the slot, sticking to them like glue and letting the guys on the outside be more physical.

Gilbert isn't happening, Dennard likely isn't happening either. Of what is left, I love the possibility of Verrett playing in the slot and being a major playmaker, especially with the other teams in the division having guys like Tavon Austin, Percy Harvin...etc.

[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on Feb 25, 2014 at 12:18 PM ]

Feb 25, 2014 at 12:14 PM

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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Travisty13:
Worst mock ever, don't quit your day job. Kidding! Good mock. Couple questions... Is this mock with the assumption that Whitner is back and Huff is the understudy? And who's the 2 starting CB with your mock, Brock and Cully with Verrett at slot? And the thing I liked most about the mock: the gif of Shaq Richardson at end.

Brock and Culliver on the outside, with Aikens behind them. Verrett at nickel corner.

And this is assuming that Whitner comes back and Dahl likely ends up being cut.

Ok works well for me. I like it. Aikens is definitely a guy I could see Baalke picking also. Has everything Baalke loves, athleticism and is a small school CB.

Feb 25, 2014 at 12:17 PM

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Very reasonable, balanced, and in my opinion, fairly realistic, Baalke-like draft. This is almost identical to the mock I had in the works, which I don't plan on changing all that much because I feel so strongly that the 49ers are gushing over the following players in particular (in descending order, starting from most likely for us to be infatuated with

):

1. WR Moncrief
2. S Huff
3. WR Ellington
4. FB/TE Millard
5. OG Long

Feb 25, 2014 at 12:18 PM

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Originally posted by sfout:

Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
I hope that Baalke will trade up for a better, taller CB. They may have to trade up for Moncrief. There's no room on the 53 for a dozen guys.

A better taller corner?

The only two CBs expected to go in front of Verrett are Gilbert and Dennard

Dennard is the same size(5'10 compared to 5'9) as him and same arm length(Dennard 30 1/4 Verrett 30 5/8).

Gilbert is a freak compared to them at 6'0 w/ 33.5 inch arms

Dennard isn't suited for slot IMO but I'm terrible at projecting positions, Gilbert will probably go in the top 10. Are you prepared to give up a Julio Jones sized bounty for a CB?

This is the time of year when every good player is in the top 10. 5-10 is taller than 5-9. If you or Phoenix are saying that the Niners won't trade up anywhere in the draft, I disagree. They may trade up in the 1st. They did last year. If there's a player who can start at either WR or CB (I prefer WR), then Baalke should do what it takes to get him. Rather than a J.Jones trade, I suggest adding someone like Ray McDonald or Iupati.

Feb 25, 2014 at 12:20 PM

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Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
This is the time of year when every good player is in the top 10. 5-10 is taller than 5-9. If you or Phoenix are saying that the Niners won't trade up anywhere in the draft, I disagree. They may trade up in the 1st. They did last year. If there's a player who can start at either WR or CB (I prefer WR), then Baalke should do what it takes to get him. Rather than a J.Jones trade, I suggest adding someone like Ray McDonald or Iupati.

They aren't going to gut them team to move up in the draft. You don't trade a guy like Iupati if you're going to need him as a starter next year, regardless of his free agent status. Trading McDonald makes even less sense.

Feb 25, 2014 at 12:21 PM

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I'm ok with this mock.

Feb 25, 2014 at 12:21 PM

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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
This is the time of year when every good player is in the top 10. 5-10 is taller than 5-9. If you or Phoenix are saying that the Niners won't trade up anywhere in the draft, I disagree. They may trade up in the 1st. They did last year. If there's a player who can start at either WR or CB (I prefer WR), then Baalke should do what it takes to get him. Rather than a J.Jones trade, I suggest adding someone like Ray McDonald or Iupati.

They aren't going to gut them team to move up in the draft. You don't trade a guy like Iupati if you're going to need him as a starter next year, regardless of his free agent status. Trading McDonald makes even less sense.

Okay, so the Niners will stand pat. I'll quote you on that. It rhymes.

Feb 25, 2014 at 12:22 PM

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Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Very reasonable, balanced, and in my opinion, fairly realistic, Baalke-like draft. This is almost identical to the mock I had in the works, which I don't plan on changing all that much because I feel so strongly that the 49ers are gushing over the following players in particular (in descending order, starting from most likely for us to be infatuated with ):

1. WR Moncrief
2. S Huff
3. WR Ellington
4. FB/TE Millard
5. OG Long

I think Moncrief, Millard, Long, all strong 49ers types of players. I love the thought of McKinnon in the 7th and I love his initiative to start working in and training as a defensive back. That's some serious forward level thinking rather than being incessantly stubborn on being a RB. 49ers need to add another Osgood or Bubba Ventrone type and at minimum, I think McKinnon could do well in that role.