Un-Phoenix 49ers Mock Draft

Soap won't be back unless he takes a vet min deal... He's old never been anything special and Trent doesn't like to keep aging over paid nose tackles.

Originally posted by TheGoldDiggerrrr:
Soap won't be back unless he takes a vet min deal... He's old never been anything special and Trent doesn't like to keep aging over paid nose tackles.

Yes but they need a veteran of sorts at NT, rookies don't usually come in and do all that well. I'm not a fan of Soap either, but there's not many veteran choices out there, maybe Aubrayo Franklin? I like Terrance Knighton of Jacksonville but don't have any idea on how much salary he would cost.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Since I've been accused of being biased............not sure where people get that idea anyways, seems totally misinformed , I devised this mock draft utilizing mostly players that have never been included in any previous mock draft of mine. (PS-Baalke draft Quinton Patton.....he's that dude. )



Resign-Dashon Goldson, re-sign Soap to a lesser deal.

Sign-Richard Seymour, throw him into the rotation as a 3-4 DE on a 2 year deal.

Trade one 7th rounder away to KC as part of Alex Smith deal(this is still being deliberated according to rumors).


Datone Jones, Desmond Trufant, Johnthan Banks and Jesse Wiliams are all gone before the 49ers first pick.


Round 1-Tavon Austin-WR-West Virginia-Yeah he kind of looks like an extra from the Munchkin Village tryouts for Wizard of Oz but he's a hell of a football player. Great timed speed, but more importantly, great football speed. Unlike a guy like Ryan Swope who made jaws drop when he ran his 40 at the Combine with people saying "no f**king way did we think he's that fast", Austin does look that fast out on the football field. He'd be a nice pick simply because he increases offensive explosiveness. In an ever-more passing-friendly NFL, he's someone who can make it due to rules that protect both QB's and WR's going over the middle of the field. He's got both quickness and speed and is an instant matchup nightmare that Kaepernick could have a lot of fun with. He'll provide the same deep, scary threat that Moss did, with teams have to keeping their safeties back just in case he goes off. Additionally, now you have your returner positions covered so people can stop crying about that too.


Trade down about 8-10 spots in the 2nd round, acquire another 4th round pick



Round 2A-Da'Rick Rogers-WR-Tennessee Tech-"WAIT, YOU CAN'T DO THAT, THAT'S 2 WR'S IN A ROW, BUT...BUT...BUT." Deal with it, this is my mock draft. WR has been such an issue for so long with this team, even after last season they were down to Crabtree, Moss, AJ Jenkins and Vince Papale. Adding Austin gives you explosiveness and a major downfield threat, adding Rogers gives you a big, physical WR that is very tough to press and can pick up major yards after the catch. If you can trot out a top 3 of Crabtree, Rogers and Austin, with whatever contributions the corpse of AJ Jenkins can provide, that's a lineup of WR's that can flat out light teams up. One point about Rogers that one other poster made quite succinctly is that he doesn't have any real weaknesses. He's not going to be a big downfield threat, but in terms of being a very physical receiver, making plays on the ball, having reliable hands, using his size to get open, he's really got all the tools to succeed.

Round 2B-Robert Alford-CB-Southeastern Louisiana-Everything I've seen from this explosive small school player tells me he's going to be a very good NFL cornerback. Shows great field awareness, doesn't have the best size but is a fighter, a very physical player, a ballhawk who adjusts to passes well in the air, has shown good prowess defending in the red-zone, I opted to keep him in because of the value he represents at this position.

Round 3A-Shawn Williams-SS-Georgia. I was going to go with JJ Wilcox who I love, but to balance it out and keep it fresh, I'll go with Williams, a very active safety, hard hitter but with surprisingly decent coverage ability. He had a GREAT combine and allayed a lot of concerns about his athleticism. He's a strong tackler and someone that could replace Whitner, sooner or later.

This is where I flip the script and trade up from the early 4th round, giving up 5th and 7th rounders to move up between the 28th and 30th picks of the 3rd.



Round 3B-Jamie Collins-OLB-Southern Miss. Athletic super-freak, just a tremendous beast that can play the 3-4 OLB, could be useful from a depth perspective, 49ers absolutely could use someone to add depth to keep guys like Aldon and Brooks fresh. Fleming is coming back off a season-ending injury and Cam Johnson is an unknown, I think Collins gives this team good pass rushing ability coupled with just freakish, off the charts athleticism, if this dude ever gets into trouble, he can definitely jump high enough to hit the floating magic block above to release the Mushroom Boost-Up.

Round 3C-Bennie Logan-DE/DT-LSU. Logan is someone I've gone back and forth on. He's a 4-3 player but does have potential as a 3-4 DE, although I'm not completely sold, at this point in the draft, his talent and upside is way to good to overlook. He plays with a high motor, not a good pass rusher per say but is active, always fighting hard. He does well in pursuit and has the necessary size to play as a 3-4 DE. He did fairly well at the Combine, would be a nice addition here.

Round 4-Montori Hughes-NT-Tennessee-Martin. Yes I've included him before, but I like him a lot better than Geathers. He's got a huge upside, which Baalke obviously likes in players that he drafts. Had some character issues but would be a nice player for depth, to start developing as a potential starter down the road. Had kind of a lousy showing at the Combine but he's a high-motor guy that is intensely competitive, good addition at this point in the draft.

Round 4(Comp)-Chris Gragg-TE-Arkansas-Delanie Walker is out the door, so Gragg would be a natural to bring in to replace him. He had a down year due to injuries but his Combine numbers were absolutely bonkers off the charts compared to the other TE's. Highly athletic, a very good receiver, needs to work and improve as a blocker, also has had issues with drops at times, needs better overall focus. With the right coaching, he could become a very effective TE, better than a guy like Jordan Reed.

Round 5-Dustin Hopkins-K-Florida-Akers clearly isn't the answer, 49ers obviously need a kicker and this guy is arguably the best in this year's draft, though I think Sturgis is up there as well in terms of talent.

Round 6-Shamarko Thomas-SS-Syracuse. I may be cheating here but this guy replaces McBath and becomes a top special teams gunner. Freakish athletic ability and loves to hit like a Mack Truck, I think the 49ers will now understand the value of special teams after the way things went down at the Superbowl.

Round 6-Braden Brown-OT-BYU. Very good pass blocker, has a lot of work to do in terms of run blocking. Great size and measurables for the position, needs to play more aggressively, quite passive at times but a lot of his issues can be coached up. Holds potential as a starting right tackle someday.

Round 7(Comp)-Colby Cameron-QB-Lousiana Tech. Sure, they don't get the WR I really want from Louisiana Tech but they do get the quarterback. Doesn't have a very strong arm, can be very erratic at times. Decent mobility, gets too cocky, has the ability to get the ball out quick but tries to force it into places he really shouldn't. Shows good leadership qualities. Good athleticism, fairly mobile, his ceiling is a quality NFL backup basically but well worth the pick here.

Round 7(Comp)-Nicholas Williams-DE-Samford. Good small-school player, has ideal size as a 3-4 DE, can also move around the DL as well. Had a very good showing at the Combine, very athletic, at this point in the draft he's more or less competing for the spot RJF held before he went and signed with the Green Bay Packers...that b*****d.

Round 3B-Jamie Collins-OLB-Southern Miss. Athletic super-freak, just a tremendous beast that can play the 3-4 OLB, could be useful from a depth perspective, 49ers absolutely could use someone to add depth to keep guys like Aldon and Brooks fresh. Fleming is coming back off a season-ending injury and Cam Johnson is an unknown, I think Collins gives this team good pass rushing ability coupled with just freakish, off the charts athleticism, if this dude ever gets into trouble, he can definitely jump high enough to hit the floating magic block above to release the Mushroom Boost-Up.

I feel the same way about Sio Moore from UCONN. U can never have enough guys that can rush the passer

Absolutely love your mock, especially the first two picks! I can totally see the 49ers doing this or at least surprising everyone and picking up more offense than defense in this draft, I just don't see us repeating what we did in the past and completely forget about the offense while trying to stack our D. Give Kaep some weapons to play with!

Thanks for taking the time to make this Phoenix

No Phillip Thomas....Blasphemy!

Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
No Phillip Thomas....Blasphemy!

Look, I gave you Alford alright, quit crying.

If Thomas happened to be available at Carolina's pick in the 3rd round, then that would be another option as well.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
No Phillip Thomas....Blasphemy!

Look, I gave you Alford alright, quit crying.

50/50 split aint bad i guess, but i will cry if i want too. Now gimme my ball. Im going home.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
No Phillip Thomas....Blasphemy!

Look, I gave you Alford alright, quit crying.

If Thomas happened to be available at Carolina's pick in the 3rd round, then that would be another option as well.

Not gonna happen. IMO hes a early/mid second round pic. There will be teams that love the kid.

Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
Not gonna happen. IMO hes a early/mid second round pic. There will be teams that love the kid.

JJ Wilcox is my guy in the 3rd. I like him a lot, he can really do it all, has tons of upside but I had to go with Shawn Williams to try and stay somewhat original.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
Not gonna happen. IMO hes a early/mid second round pic. There will be teams that love the kid.

JJ Wilcox is my guy in the 3rd. I like him a lot, he can really do it all, has tons of upside but I had to go with Shawn Williams to try and stay somewhat original.

I like Wilcox as well, I have us drafting him and Thomas in my mock because i have no idea what they plan to do with Goldson. But i have us taking him in the 4th. May be a bit low at our 4th, but i think ultimately he goes in the 4th.

Good mock like the originality

Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
No Phillip Thomas....Blasphemy!

I don't see it with Phillip Thomas. I watched his bowl game, senior bowl, boise st(2012), and Tulsa(2012). I wasn't impressed like most people are. I was reading about him and apparently he had a really good 2011 but his production has dropped off. What games would you suggest because I'm trying to crack the FS riddle?

id rather go macdonald in 2nd and go cb in 3rd just me. I like the idea of shoring up the wr core

Originally posted by fan49:
id rather go macdonald in 2nd and go cb in 3rd just me. I like the idea of shoring up the wr core

To be honest, very little impresses me about McDonald beyond him being the son of Tim, the more I see of him, the more stiff and unflexible he looks. He's currently rated in the mid to late 3rd round for good reason. In terms of coverage abilities, he's better than Taylor Mays but he struggles to change direction, gets caught out of position a lot. He's a hard, heavy duty hitter, but looks to be in the mold of Whitner where he'll get picked on if you put him out alone in coverage. After Mays, Rachal and others, I'm about ready to say f**k it, no more USC players, like....ever.


Take a look at JJ Wilcox from Georgia Southern if you haven't before. He's pretty raw, has only played safety for a year, was a WR/RB before that but in that one season, he turned a lot of heads. He's a guy who likes to hit and is very good in man-to-man coverage, especially for a strong safety. He utilizes his experience as a WR the same way Sherman does, predicting where routes will go, understanding what receivers and offenses are trying to do in a given situation....shows great field awareness. I'd draft him, unleash him on special teams and continue to develop him further to be an eventual starter. He seems like the high-ceiling type of player that Baalke loves.


Mike Mayock......I said MIKE MAYOCK(somewhere NinerJohn is lurking )..........is quite fond of him.

"215-pound safety with corner feet," Mayock described. "I think he's an immediate starter in the NFL, he can help you on special teams. This is a guy that I've really enjoyed watching." A running back/slot receiver his first three seasons at Georgia Southern, Wilcox moved to strong safety as a senior and was a first-team all-league pick by the Southern Conference coaches. He also brings to the table kickoff return value.

Originally posted by eonblue:

Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
No Phillip Thomas....Blasphemy!

I don't see it with Phillip Thomas. I watched his bowl game, senior bowl, boise st(2012), and Tulsa(2012). I wasn't impressed like most people are. I was reading about him and apparently he had a really good 2011 but his production has dropped off. What games would you suggest because I'm trying to crack the FS riddle?

I watched his entire career. I was born and raised in Fresno. IMO he is ready right now for the NFL. He was coached by Tim Mcdonald, and is extremely intelegent, and a great kid who is a student of the game with great work ethic.

He didnt play in 2011. He was injured, badly i might add. Despite the leg injury e returned in 2012 and had a damn good season. 8 INT, 3 TD, 4 FF, 82 T, 12 TFL

Hes got good size, athleticism and instincts. He is good in the box, in man, and in zone coverages. He was asked to do everything at Fresno State and acceled at it all. He is a phisical hitter, has good hands, and good vertical, and has great closeing speed, and range. Good lateral movment and fluid hips. When he gets the ball in his hands he is a threat.

His biggest knock is that he is very instincual. This is one of his biggest upsides, and also a downside. Its a double edged sword for him, as sometimes he trusts his instincts a bit to much and gives up some technique and fundamentals as a result and this has been generally when he gets beat. Gambleing on play action, or double moves. He also takes poor angles on open feild tackles sometimes. He seemed to stuggle more against high powered versitile run teams where he was asked to do alot and be in alot of places at once Also keep in mind, that fresno state front 7 wasnt doing him many favors..

Heres a couple good videos.

Oregon game is a good example of his positives and negatives. He had a poor first half. Great second half. One of the underrated plays in this game is the play where he rushes the QB, is totally out of the play, then down field there is a fumble and he is able to recover the fumble because he never gives up and has a non stop motor.
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Mic up SB practice. Shows the kids character and work ethic
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IMO the farthest he falls is to the redskins at 52.