Rueben Randle WR LSU

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
So tired of hearing this s**t...not that it's not true, but Crabtree was suppose to be the lock of all locks.... A complete "steal" at 10. Now he's not even a number one and is just a solid two? That just pisses me off and makes me jaded to this whole process. None of these clowns like Mayock and Kiper had any idea how good Aldon Smith could be, if they did they would of jizzed all over the camera when he was drafted. Truth is, no one knows anything.

lol i agree, if they were so good at this wouldn't they be scouts for teams?

Originally posted by TXNinerFan52:
So far Rueben Randle has not been disappointment at the NFL combine (6'3" 210lbs). It has been reported, he thinks he will run 4.4 in 40yrds.

love the fact that he's 6'3''

but watching him on tape he doesn't jump out as being prolific, hopefully i'm wrong. i still think we need to add more than just one weapon on offense.

Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
I would not be willing to spend the #30 pick on this guy. Someone will drop, and we should snag BPA in the first.

I do like him or hill at our second round pick, but in the first is too early IMO. Take BPA in the first, then take one of the large second teir guys in the second. Then take a sleeper pick guy like Elvis Akpla In the final rounds. I fully expect atleast two WR to be drafted this year.

This. Someone with great value at a position that we don't need will drop to us and the niners should take him.

btw idaho, i like your posts so far. You actually make sense.

Nice article by matt maiacco about him fitting with us

http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/niners-talk/post/LSU-receiver-would-be-sound-fit-with-49e?blockID=658088&feedID=5936

Originally posted by niners4lyfe:

Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
I would not be willing to spend the #30 pick on this guy. Someone will drop, and we should snag BPA in the first.

I do like him or hill at our second round pick, but in the first is too early IMO. Take BPA in the first, then take one of the large second teir guys in the second. Then take a sleeper pick guy like Elvis Akpla In the final rounds. I fully expect atleast two WR to be drafted this year.

This. Someone with great value at a position that we don't need will drop to us and the niners should take him.

btw idaho, i like your posts so far. You actually make sense.

Thanks man! I try to be realistic and keep a level head, even though its hard to do so sometimes in the offseason.

Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
I would not be willing to spend the #30 pick on this guy. Someone will drop, and we should snag BPA in the first.

I do like him or hill at our second round pick, but in the first is too early IMO. Take BPA in the first, then take one of the large second teir guys in the second. Then take a sleeper pick guy like Elvis Akpla In the final rounds. I fully expect atleast two WR to be drafted this year.

Give me an example who you would like to see drop to #30? If we don't sign a free agent WR we better hope Rueben Randle drops to the 49ers at #30. If Randle makes it pass us at #30 I don't expect him to last pass #42. If we pass on Rueben at #30 and he don't last pass #42 how is it a reach if we draft him at #30?

Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by Redgoldknight:
He is another Crabtree including the height. There is no way that dude is 6'4. He's 6'2 tops

He is very much like Crabtree. Probably about 6-3, but don't see him as much of a jump ball or speed threat.

His game reminds me 0 of Crabtrees. While MC made a name for himself in college catching the ball in the intermediate range, and plucking it out of the air, then running with it, Randel does not seem natural doing this. In fact, he seems very weak to me, and is easily taken down on contact. He does, however, look very natural catching the ball over his shoulder going deep, something Crabtree does not do naturally.

You said Randle doesn't have any YAC ability? I think you need to go back and look at his highlights. Go back and look at the Arkansas clips. The first defender rarely brings down Randle on first contact. A numerous times it took Arkansas' second and third defender to tackle Randle. Look at how Arkansas' defense swarms to the ball. Watch Randle as he catches passes, he is so smooth. The one thing I don't like about Randle is he doesn't extend his arms to catch the ball. Usually at the last minute he flashes his hands and plucks the ball out of the air right before it's about to hit him in his chest.

Originally posted by TXNinerFan52:

Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
I would not be willing to spend the #30 pick on this guy. Someone will drop, and we should snag BPA in the first.

I do like him or hill at our second round pick, but in the first is too early IMO. Take BPA in the first, then take one of the large second teir guys in the second. Then take a sleeper pick guy like Elvis Akpla In the final rounds. I fully expect atleast two WR to be drafted this year.

Give me an example who you would like to see drop to #30? If we don't sign a free agent WR we better hope Rueben Randle drops to the 49ers at #30. If Randle makes it pass us at #30 I don't expect him to last pass #42. If we pass on Rueben at #30 and he don't last pass #42 how is it a reach if we draft him at #30?

Randle is a reach because there are several other WR with his measurables and skillsets that will be available in the second and third. I would much rather have Hill/streeter in the second/third. Dont get me wrong, I like randle, but lets face it him being a first round talent is a reach. Most people on this board didnt have a clue who he was before Kiper's mock. Not to mention there is huge depth in the later rounds on possible sleeper WR. And to assume we wont sign a WR in FA is not realistic. We have two WR under contract. FA's will be signed and rookies will be drafted.

The fact of the mater is there is no way that Randle will be the BPA at that pick. If the team picks him its because they are reaching to fill a need and not because he was the BPA.

Originally posted by IdahoNiner:

Originally posted by TXNinerFan52:

Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
I would not be willing to spend the #30 pick on this guy. Someone will drop, and we should snag BPA in the first.

I do like him or hill at our second round pick, but in the first is too early IMO. Take BPA in the first, then take one of the large second teir guys in the second. Then take a sleeper pick guy like Elvis Akpla In the final rounds. I fully expect atleast two WR to be drafted this year.

Give me an example who you would like to see drop to #30? If we don't sign a free agent WR we better hope Rueben Randle drops to the 49ers at #30. If Randle makes it pass us at #30 I don't expect him to last pass #42. If we pass on Rueben at #30 and he don't last pass #42 how is it a reach if we draft him at #30?

Randle is a reach because there are several other WR with his measurables and skillsets that will be available in the second and third. I would much rather have Hill/streeter in the second/third. Dont get me wrong, I like randle, but lets face it him being a first round talent is a reach. Most people on this board didnt have a clue who he was before Kiper's mock. Not to mention there is huge depth in the later rounds on possible sleeper WR. And to assume we wont sign a WR in FA is not realistic. We have two WR under contract. FA's will be signed and rookies will be drafted.

The fact of the mater is there is no way that Randle will be the BPA at that pick. If the team picks him its because they are reaching to fill a need and not because he was the BPA.

You are right, there are so many good WR prospects in this draft that there are bound to be highly regarded players available in the 2nd and 3rd.

The only problem is, more than half of the highly regarded players aren't going to turn into good NFL players. Even though this WR class looks great all the way through the top 25, in reality only 5 or so of them will actually become good NFL players.

If our scouts feel like they know which guy in that group is likely to be one of the few that actually becomes a good pro, then I'd much rather see them go after that guy aggressively instead of waiting and getting a "value" pick that never becomes anything.

Maximizing value is great for mock drafts, but not always the best for real NFL drafts.

Randall is my new favorite reciever at #30. I'm hoping he doesn't run too good in the 40 today.

Originally posted by IdahoNiner:

Originally posted by TXNinerFan52:

Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
I would not be willing to spend the #30 pick on this guy. Someone will drop, and we should snag BPA in the first.

I do like him or hill at our second round pick, but in the first is too early IMO. Take BPA in the first, then take one of the large second teir guys in the second. Then take a sleeper pick guy like Elvis Akpla In the final rounds. I fully expect atleast two WR to be drafted this year.

Give me an example who you would like to see drop to #30? If we don't sign a free agent WR we better hope Rueben Randle drops to the 49ers at #30. If Randle makes it pass us at #30 I don't expect him to last pass #42. If we pass on Rueben at #30 and he don't last pass #42 how is it a reach if we draft him at #30?

Randle is a reach because there are several other WR with his measurables and skillsets that will be available in the second and third. I would much rather have Hill/streeter in the second/third. Dont get me wrong, I like randle, but lets face it him being a first round talent is a reach. Most people on this board didnt have a clue who he was before Kiper's mock. Not to mention there is huge depth in the later rounds on possible sleeper WR. And to assume we wont sign a WR in FA is not realistic. We have two WR under contract. FA's will be signed and rookies will be drafted.

The fact of the mater is there is no way that Randle will be the BPA at that pick. If the team picks him its because they are reaching to fill a need and not because he was the BPA.

Yeah, we could get a similar WR later in the draft, but Randall has #1 receiver written all over him. Don't forget, you get what you paid for.

Originally posted by TheFunkyChicken:

Originally posted by IdahoNiner:

Originally posted by TXNinerFan52:

Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
I would not be willing to spend the #30 pick on this guy. Someone will drop, and we should snag BPA in the first.

I do like him or hill at our second round pick, but in the first is too early IMO. Take BPA in the first, then take one of the large second teir guys in the second. Then take a sleeper pick guy like Elvis Akpla In the final rounds. I fully expect atleast two WR to be drafted this year.

Give me an example who you would like to see drop to #30? If we don't sign a free agent WR we better hope Rueben Randle drops to the 49ers at #30. If Randle makes it pass us at #30 I don't expect him to last pass #42. If we pass on Rueben at #30 and he don't last pass #42 how is it a reach if we draft him at #30?

Randle is a reach because there are several other WR with his measurables and skillsets that will be available in the second and third. I would much rather have Hill/streeter in the second/third. Dont get me wrong, I like randle, but lets face it him being a first round talent is a reach. Most people on this board didnt have a clue who he was before Kiper's mock. Not to mention there is huge depth in the later rounds on possible sleeper WR. And to assume we wont sign a WR in FA is not realistic. We have two WR under contract. FA's will be signed and rookies will be drafted.

The fact of the mater is there is no way that Randle will be the BPA at that pick. If the team picks him its because they are reaching to fill a need and not because he was the BPA.

You are right, there are so many good WR prospects in this draft that there are bound to be highly regarded players available in the 2nd and 3rd.

The only problem is, more than half of the highly regarded players aren't going to turn into good NFL players. Even though this WR class looks great all the way through the top 25, in reality only 5 or so of them will actually become good NFL players.

If our scouts feel like they know which guy in that group is likely to be one of the few that actually becomes a good pro, then I'd much rather see them go after that guy aggressively instead of waiting and getting a "value" pick that never becomes anything.

Maximizing value is great for mock drafts, but not always the best for real NFL drafts.

If Baalke has a first round grade on Randle than i have no problem with the pic. If they reach because they are trying to fill a need that can be filled with equal talent in later rounds than i have a problem with it.

Personally i have Randle ranked slightly ahead of Hill and Streeter, But i don't have a first round grade on any of them. This is where baalke earns his money. If he likes him in the first i will accept that, right now i personally don't.

I would not be taking any of the WR that will be left in the first at #30 but that is just me.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by IdahoNiner:

Originally posted by TXNinerFan52:

Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
I would not be willing to spend the #30 pick on this guy. Someone will drop, and we should snag BPA in the first.

I do like him or hill at our second round pick, but in the first is too early IMO. Take BPA in the first, then take one of the large second teir guys in the second. Then take a sleeper pick guy like Elvis Akpla In the final rounds. I fully expect atleast two WR to be drafted this year.

Give me an example who you would like to see drop to #30? If we don't sign a free agent WR we better hope Rueben Randle drops to the 49ers at #30. If Randle makes it pass us at #30 I don't expect him to last pass #42. If we pass on Rueben at #30 and he don't last pass #42 how is it a reach if we draft him at #30?

Randle is a reach because there are several other WR with his measurables and skillsets that will be available in the second and third. I would much rather have Hill/streeter in the second/third. Dont get me wrong, I like randle, but lets face it him being a first round talent is a reach. Most people on this board didnt have a clue who he was before Kiper's mock. Not to mention there is huge depth in the later rounds on possible sleeper WR. And to assume we wont sign a WR in FA is not realistic. We have two WR under contract. FA's will be signed and rookies will be drafted.

The fact of the mater is there is no way that Randle will be the BPA at that pick. If the team picks him its because they are reaching to fill a need and not because he was the BPA.

Yeah, we could get a similar WR later in the draft, but Randall has #1 receiver written all over him. Don't forget, you get what you paid for.

Yes, you do. And often if you overpay for something of need, you overpay badly. I don't see anymore sure sign that Randle will be a #1 any more than Hill or even Streeter. Hell i think Elvis Akpla will be the steal of the draft if he is even drafted.

If i had to pick one of the WR that would be there at 30 it would be Randle, im not arguing that he will more than likely be the best available WR at 30....I just think WR will be a reach at 30 at that point.

Originally posted by IdahoNiner:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by IdahoNiner:

Originally posted by TXNinerFan52:

Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
I would not be willing to spend the #30 pick on this guy. Someone will drop, and we should snag BPA in the first.

I do like him or hill at our second round pick, but in the first is too early IMO. Take BPA in the first, then take one of the large second teir guys in the second. Then take a sleeper pick guy like Elvis Akpla In the final rounds. I fully expect atleast two WR to be drafted this year.

Give me an example who you would like to see drop to #30? If we don't sign a free agent WR we better hope Rueben Randle drops to the 49ers at #30. If Randle makes it pass us at #30 I don't expect him to last pass #42. If we pass on Rueben at #30 and he don't last pass #42 how is it a reach if we draft him at #30?

Randle is a reach because there are several other WR with his measurables and skillsets that will be available in the second and third. I would much rather have Hill/streeter in the second/third. Dont get me wrong, I like randle, but lets face it him being a first round talent is a reach. Most people on this board didnt have a clue who he was before Kiper's mock. Not to mention there is huge depth in the later rounds on possible sleeper WR. And to assume we wont sign a WR in FA is not realistic. We have two WR under contract. FA's will be signed and rookies will be drafted.

The fact of the mater is there is no way that Randle will be the BPA at that pick. If the team picks him its because they are reaching to fill a need and not because he was the BPA.

Yeah, we could get a similar WR later in the draft, but Randall has #1 receiver written all over him. Don't forget, you get what you paid for.

Yes, you do. And often if you overpay for something of need, you overpay badly. I don't see anymore sure sign that Randle will be a #1 any more than Hill or even Streeter. Hell i think Elvis Akpla will be the steal of the draft if he is even drafted.

If i had to pick one of the WR that would be there at 30 it would be Randle, im not arguing that he will more than likely be the best available WR at 30....I just think WR will be a reach at 30 at that point.

I agree, but if Harbalke likes him enough just take him at #30 and take the drama out of it.