Originally posted by MadDog49er:Originally posted by OnTheClock:Originally posted by MadDog49er:Originally posted by Joecool:Originally posted by MadDog49er:Originally posted by AB83Rules:
I dont buy into combine numbers, the combine is a idiotic method of evaluating.
Id rather look at game tape and see what he did, not if he ran a poor 40, or whatever.
Just stupid IMO.
While some combine numbers may be overemphasized by fans, the combine does have a purpose, in putting athletes side by side in a controlled setting to see their overall athleticism side by side (speed, explosiveness, strength, change of direction abilities). I do agree that some of the combine events should be altered (the start to the 40 is silly to me), but it does serve a purpose. I haven't even gone into the medical evals and the interviews, which are gigantic.
Overemphasized events include the forty, QB's throwing the ball, WR's running routes. Underemphasized: shuttle and cone times, which really show change of direction abilities.
Overall, I am a supporter of the combine as one major piece of the puzzle. It is surely not the most important element, but is critical.
They need to do the combine in full pads and helmet. It's surprising how that little bit of extra slows some players down and ruins their vision while it won't phase others.
BTW, MD, how does Kaepernick compare to Tebow coming out of the draft? Didn't Denver trade up for Tebow?
I agree that helmet and pads would be a nice addition to the combine.
I think that Kaepernick is a much better NFL QB prospect than Tebow. Kaepernick has a stronger arm, is a better overall athlete, and is suited for QB. I don't think Tebow is an NFL QB at all. He would be best as an H-back. And, yes, the Broncos traded up for Tebow. Then, they make the mistake this year of drafting a 4-3 OLB in Miller, who is a terrific talent, but not best suited for a 4-3. The pick was Dareus.
You and I never agreed on Tebow, and still don't I see.
I think Tebow will continue to work himself into being a good NFL quarterback. I think he's on his way.
Can't agree on everything.I think TT is going to struggle to beat out KO this offseason, and with Orton in a contract year, I kind of expect solid numbers, and another extension. Fox has pretty much named him the starter this year.
We'll see. Tebow is a really nice kid, and I wish him the best in life.
I can agree with Tebow backing up Orton. Kyle might be the most underrated QB in the entire league. I'd take him in a second on my team. Kyle is still the top QB on the team, but Tebow has more upside obviously and is still growing after showing some nice play late last season with Orton hurt.
If Denver's OL isn't any better this year, Tebow could find himself seeing a lot more time as a starter, and I think he'll do a good job. If Orton is extended, at some point, the Broncos I have to believe will look to trade one of their QB's. There's already talk that once they can, they're looking to deal Orton to Arizona. Don't know if it'll happen, but Denver should certainly have some suitors.

, etc.) then our QB, whomever it is, could actually have a decent year in what will surely be a simplified offense from this lockout.