1st Round Pick (7th and FINAL Poll, No Trades)

NinerBuff · 2018-04-11T07:37:09-07:00

Dec. 23, 2017: I think it's likely that we'll be either 4-12 or 5-11, and picking 5-7th overall. NOTE: I've eliminated QB, DT, S, and OT from the list as I don't see how we would select one of these positions. Results (141 total votes): Quentin Nelson - 33% Bradley Chubb - 17% Saquon Barkley - 15% Roquan Smith - 13% Minkah Fitzpatrick - 9% Harold Landry - 7% Calvin Ridley - 4% Courtland Sutton - 3% Arden Key - 1% Jan. 5, 2018: Niners will be picking either 9th or 10th (TBD). NOTE: I've eliminated QB and DT from the list, but added back in OT and S. I've also eliminated Bradley Chubb and Saquon Barkley as they are widely considered top-5 selections. Results (168 total votes): Quentin Nelson - 39% Harold Landry - 16% Joshua Jackson - 13% Roquan Smith - 11% Calvin Ridley - 8% Arden Key - 5% Minkah Fitzpatrick - 4% Mike McGlinchey - 2% Courtland Sutton - 1% Clelin Ferrell - 1% Jan. 23, 2018: Niners will be picking either 9th or 10th (TBD). NOTE: I've eliminated QB and DT. I'm adding Bradley Chubb back into the fray, but keeping Saquon Barkley off, and eliminating Clelin Ferrell as he's going back to school. The list now includes names from previous polls and recent mock drafts. Results (97 total votes): Quentin Nelson - 39% Roquan Smith - 18% Bradley Chubb - 13% Joshua Jackson - 10% Minkah Fitzpatrick - 7% Marcus Davenport - 3% Tremaine Edmunds - 2% Courtland Sutton - 2% Derwin James - 2% Denzel Ward - 2% Harold Landry - 1% Feb. 14, 2018: Niners will be picking either 9th or 10th (TBD). NOTE: I've eliminated QB and DT. I'm adding Saquon Barkley back into the poll. Results (62 total votes): Quentin Nelson - 37% Bradley Chubb - 15% Joshua Jackson - 11% Roquan Smith - 10% Saquon Barkley - 10% Harold Landry - 5% Denzel Ward - 3% Tremaine Edmunds - 3% Derwin James - 2% Calvin Ridley - 2% Marcus Davenport - 2% Mike McGlinchey - 2% Mar. 6, 2018: Niners will be picking 9th. Combine performances are now taken into consideration. Big news regarding Reuben Foster since the last poll. NOTE: I've eliminated QB and DT from the list. Since the combine, I've eliminated Bradley Chubb and Saquon Barkley again. They both appear to be top-5 picks and this poll is not considering trade-up scenarios. I've also dropped Arden Key and Orlando Brown from consideration. Results (61 total votes): Harold Landry - 33% Quentin Nelson - 30% Roquan Smith - 13% Tremaine Edmunds - 11% Derwin James - 5% Calvin Ridley - 3% Denzel Ward - 3% Minkah Fitzpartrick - 3% Mar. 19, 2018: Niners will be picking 9th. Free Agency signings are now taken into consideration. NOTE: I've eliminated QB and DT from the list. I've dropped Mike McGlinchey from consideration. Results (61 total votes): Harold Landry - 34% Quentin Nelson - 28% Roquan Smith - 14% Tremaine Edmunds - 8% Derwin James - 6% Denzel Ward - 3% Marcus Davenport - 3% Calvin Ridley - 2%Apr. 11, 2018: No substantial changes since last poll, now that FA frenzy has died down, this will be the last poll. COM - Combine PV - Private Visit

Apr 11, 2018 at 7:54 AM

adrianlesnar
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If all options are on the board, I think you have to go BPA, and that's Nelson, whom I voted for.

I'm pretty sure he'll be gone tho, so to me that narrows it down to James, Smith, and Landry. Wouldn't be mad with any of the picks, but I have a crush on James, am not as high on Landry, and like the depth at LB in mid rounds.

[ Edited by adrianlesnar on Apr 11, 2018 at 7:55 AM ]

Apr 11, 2018 at 8:35 AM

NinerBuff
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I don't think Nelson will be the pick, even if he's on the board. I don't see a great scheme fit, and for a guard in the top 10, that seems like a total reach (G in general, but also not a fit either).

I still think it comes down to Landry / Davenport with the outside possibility of a small trade up for Chubb.

This will be the first year in a while that none of us have any idea

Apr 11, 2018 at 8:41 AM

Heroism
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Not a good sign for the guys who haven't met with the team in any capacity.

Apr 11, 2018 at 9:01 AM

TheNef77
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Originally posted by NinerBuff:
I don't think Nelson will be the pick, even if he's on the board. I don't see a great scheme fit, and for a guard in the top 10, that seems like a total reach (G in general, but also not a fit either).

I still think it comes down to Landry / Davenport with the outside possibility of a small trade up for Chubb.

This will be the first year in a while that none of us have any idea

I guess a WR would be a better fit at guard because he can run faster? lol Watch the film, QN fits any scheme.

Apr 11, 2018 at 10:45 AM

NinerBuff
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Originally posted by TheNef77:
I guess a WR would be a better fit at guard because he can run faster? lol Watch the film, QN fits any scheme.

I think it also says a lot that the Niners haven't met with him (at least not that's been reported).

Apr 11, 2018 at 1:46 PM

TheNef77
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Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by TheNef77:
I guess a WR would be a better fit at guard because he can run faster? lol Watch the film, QN fits any scheme.

I think it also says a lot that the Niners haven't met with him (at least not that's been reported).

Do those visits really matter? Solomon Thomas and Myles Garrett didn't visit either and they were the first 2 names on our draft board. Visits are only helping KS and JL answer questions.
https://www.ninersnation.com/2017/4/7/15213742/49ers-pre-draft-official-visits-tracker-2017-private-workouts

Apr 11, 2018 at 1:50 PM

NinerBuff
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Originally posted by TheNef77:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by TheNef77:
I guess a WR would be a better fit at guard because he can run faster? lol Watch the film, QN fits any scheme.

I think it also says a lot that the Niners haven't met with him (at least not that's been reported).

Do those visits really matter? Solomon Thomas and Myles Garrett didn't visit either and they were the first 2 names on our draft board. Visits are only helping KS and JL answer questions.
https://www.ninersnation.com/2017/4/7/15213742/49ers-pre-draft-official-visits-tracker-2017-private-workouts

Lynch already had previous knowledge on Thomas from Stanford

Apr 11, 2018 at 2:01 PM

TheNef77
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Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by TheNef77:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by TheNef77:
I guess a WR would be a better fit at guard because he can run faster? lol Watch the film, QN fits any scheme.

I think it also says a lot that the Niners haven't met with him (at least not that's been reported).

Do those visits really matter? Solomon Thomas and Myles Garrett didn't visit either and they were the first 2 names on our draft board. Visits are only helping KS and JL answer questions.
https://www.ninersnation.com/2017/4/7/15213742/49ers-pre-draft-official-visits-tracker-2017-private-workouts

Lynch already had previous knowledge on Thomas from Stanford

What about the guy that was #1 on their board? No visits were probably needed because they had no questions. Shiiid of the list below, the only guy messing up off the field is the only guy that got a visit.

Niners board was
1) Garrett
2) Solo
3) Foster

Apr 11, 2018 at 2:21 PM

Heroism
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Originally posted by TheNef77:
Do those visits really matter? Solomon Thomas and Myles Garrett didn't visit either and they were the first 2 names on our draft board. Visits are only helping KS and JL answer questions.
https://www.ninersnation.com/2017/4/7/15213742/49ers-pre-draft-official-visits-tracker-2017-private-workouts

????

Myles Garrett said he ran a 4.56 today at Aggies Pro Day, says he has upcoming visits with Bears, 49ers
— Aaron Wilson (@AaronWilson_NFL) March 30, 2017

In fact, 49ers met with Myles Garrett multiple times. John Lynch himself was at his pro day.

49ers general manager John Lynch at Aggies Pro Day, to meet with Myles Garrett pic.twitter.com/pg7wlGL4Vn
— Aaron Wilson (@AaronWilson_NFL) March 30, 2017

Whoever was in charge of that visit tracker didn't do a good job. We're on top of s**t over here.

So yes, visits/meetings/contact absolutely matter.

[ Edited by Heroism on Apr 11, 2018 at 2:30 PM ]

Apr 11, 2018 at 3:01 PM

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TheNef77
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Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by TheNef77:
Do those visits really matter? Solomon Thomas and Myles Garrett didn't visit either and they were the first 2 names on our draft board. Visits are only helping KS and JL answer questions.
https://www.ninersnation.com/2017/4/7/15213742/49ers-pre-draft-official-visits-tracker-2017-private-workouts

????

Myles Garrett said he ran a 4.56 today at Aggies Pro Day, says he has upcoming visits with Bears, 49ers
— Aaron Wilson (@AaronWilson_NFL) March 30, 2017

In fact, 49ers met with Myles Garrett multiple times. John Lynch himself was at his pro day.

49ers general manager John Lynch at Aggies Pro Day, to meet with Myles Garrett pic.twitter.com/pg7wlGL4Vn
— Aaron Wilson (@AaronWilson_NFL) March 30, 2017

Whoever was in charge of that visit tracker didn't do a good job. We're on top of s**t over here. So yes, visits/meetings/contact absolutely matter.

https://www.ninersnation.com/2017/4/12/15279648/49ers-visits-solomon-thomas-christian-mccaffrey-myles-garrett-2017-nfl-draft
No visit was made. They just asked questions at the pro day. Kyle's more of a film guy. Of his offensive picks, he only met with Kittle. Taylor, Williams, and even his handpicked Beathard never had an official visit. Visits is just part of the due diligence.

Apr 11, 2018 at 3:06 PM

#11

Heroism
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Originally posted by TheNef77:
https://www.ninersnation.com/2017/4/12/15279648/49ers-visits-solomon-thomas-christian-mccaffrey-myles-garrett-2017-nfl-draft
No visit was made. They just asked questions at the pro day. Kyle's more of a film guy. Of his offensive picks, he only met with Kittle. Taylor, Williams, and even his handpicked Beathard never had an official visit. Visits is just part of the due diligence.

They still met with him, which is the point.

They met with all of their day 1 and day 2 picks in some form. Kyle and John said the only reason they didn't meet with Beathard was to avoid unwanted attention.

[ Edited by Heroism on Apr 11, 2018 at 3:09 PM ]

Apr 11, 2018 at 3:06 PM

#12

TheNef77
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Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by TheNef77:
https://www.ninersnation.com/2017/4/12/15279648/49ers-visits-solomon-thomas-christian-mccaffrey-myles-garrett-2017-nfl-draft
No visit was made. They just asked questions at the pro day. Kyle's more of a film guy. Of his offensive picks, he only met with Kittle. Taylor, Williams, and even his handpicked Beathard never had an official visit. Visits is just part of the due diligence.

They still met with him, which is the point. They met with all of their day 1 and day 2 picks in some form. Kyle and John said the only reason they didn't meet with Beathard was to avoid unwanted attention.

hmmmmmmm

Apr 11, 2018 at 3:14 PM

#13

NinerBuff
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Originally posted by TheNef77:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by TheNef77:
https://www.ninersnation.com/2017/4/12/15279648/49ers-visits-solomon-thomas-christian-mccaffrey-myles-garrett-2017-nfl-draft
No visit was made. They just asked questions at the pro day. Kyle's more of a film guy. Of his offensive picks, he only met with Kittle. Taylor, Williams, and even his handpicked Beathard never had an official visit. Visits is just part of the due diligence.

They still met with him, which is the point. They met with all of their day 1 and day 2 picks in some form. Kyle and John said the only reason they didn't meet with Beathard was to avoid unwanted attention.

hmmmmmmm

Which seems like a common practice in the mid-rounds, but in the top half of the first, these players are picked through with a fine tooth comb.

Apr 11, 2018 at 3:18 PM

#14

Heroism
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BTW, Kyle confirmed that his QB coach Rich Scangarello met with CJ at the combine. They just didn't bring him in for a private visit.

Kyle Shanahan did not meet with CJ Beathard at the combine. QB coach Rich Scangarello did.
— Jennifer Lee Chan (@jenniferleechan) April 29, 2017

That's all day one and day two players accounted for in some capacity.

[ Edited by Heroism on Apr 11, 2018 at 3:20 PM ]