Originally posted by fip24:I'd be thrilled with Cross or Brisker.
It seems like upgrading the back end of the defense could come at a relative inexpensive cost. I'm guessing Cross could be had for 3/$33m. Considering, the team would be able to cut Brown and save $4 million, the year one cap impact could be almost negligible.
Cross is only 24.
would love this move
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Mar 10, 2026 at 10:34 AM
- DaleGribble
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Mar 10, 2026 at 1:07 PM
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I'm in the boat for him.
Mar 10, 2026 at 6:17 PM
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Here are the PFF ratings/rankings for Brown, Mustapha, and Nick Cross
Brown Ranked #52 among all Safeties Run Defense - 71. Coverage 59
Mustapha #58 RD - 62, Coverage - 60
Nick Cross #66 RD - 72, Coverage - 50
We need a good cover safety, but from these numbers, Nick Cross is not the Safety we are looking for.
Brown Ranked #52 among all Safeties Run Defense - 71. Coverage 59
Mustapha #58 RD - 62, Coverage - 60
Nick Cross #66 RD - 72, Coverage - 50
We need a good cover safety, but from these numbers, Nick Cross is not the Safety we are looking for.
Mar 10, 2026 at 6:44 PM
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Originally posted by dj43:Just further proof that PFF is b******t.
Here are the PFF ratings/rankings for Brown, Mustapha, and Nick Cross
Brown Ranked #52 among all Safeties Run Defense - 71. Coverage 59
Mustapha #58 RD - 62, Coverage - 60
Nick Cross #66 RD - 72, Coverage - 50
We need a good cover safety, but from these numbers, Nick Cross is not the Safety we are looking for.
Mar 10, 2026 at 6:48 PM
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Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by dj43:Just further proof that PFF is b******t.
Here are the PFF ratings/rankings for Brown, Mustapha, and Nick Cross
Brown Ranked #52 among all Safeties Run Defense - 71. Coverage 59
Mustapha #58 RD - 62, Coverage - 60
Nick Cross #66 RD - 72, Coverage - 50
We need a good cover safety, but from these numbers, Nick Cross is not the Safety we are looking for.
So you think Cross would be better than the guys we have now?
On what basis? I'm curious.
Mar 10, 2026 at 7:00 PM
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Originally posted by dj43:On the basis that I have eyes.
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by dj43:Just further proof that PFF is b******t.
Here are the PFF ratings/rankings for Brown, Mustapha, and Nick Cross
Brown Ranked #52 among all Safeties Run Defense - 71. Coverage 59
Mustapha #58 RD - 62, Coverage - 60
Nick Cross #66 RD - 72, Coverage - 50
We need a good cover safety, but from these numbers, Nick Cross is not the Safety we are looking for.
So you think Cross would be better than the guys we have now?
On what basis? I'm curious.
Mar 10, 2026 at 8:06 PM
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Nick Cross is a fast safety who played in the backfield by himself. Jay Linn Hawkins would be a good fit as well. Only thing needed is for JL to get his head outta his a** and make a move for a young playmaker. He went with a 33 yr old wr when he coulda had a younger player.
Mar 10, 2026 at 9:24 PM
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Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by dj43:On the basis that I have eyes.
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by dj43:Just further proof that PFF is b******t.
Here are the PFF ratings/rankings for Brown, Mustapha, and Nick Cross
Brown Ranked #52 among all Safeties Run Defense - 71. Coverage 59
Mustapha #58 RD - 62, Coverage - 60
Nick Cross #66 RD - 72, Coverage - 50
We need a good cover safety, but from these numbers, Nick Cross is not the Safety we are looking for.
So you think Cross would be better than the guys we have now?
On what basis? I'm curious.
...and the eyes of professional analysts who do it for a living, say your eyes are deceiving you.
Mar 10, 2026 at 9:25 PM
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Originally posted by Drod1008:
Nick Cross is a fast safety who played in the backfield by himself. Jay Linn Hawkins would be a good fit as well. Only thing needed is for JL to get his head outta his a** and make a move for a young playmaker. He went with a 33 yr old wr when he coulda had a younger player.
What "younger player" did you have in mind?
Mar 11, 2026 at 12:52 AM
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Originally posted by dj43:
What "younger player" did you have in mind?
Thib, Brian Thomas Jr, Michael Wilson Jackson Powers Johnson, Michael Mayer, Cole kmet, Jay Linn Hawkins,
[ Edited by Drod1008 on Mar 11, 2026 at 12:54 AM ]
Mar 11, 2026 at 7:25 AM
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Originally posted by dj43:I'm no expert but at no point during my decades of watching football have I ever thought that I needed "professional" analysts to tell me whether a player was good,bad or somewhere in between and if that day ever comes its time for me to stop watching football.
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by dj43:On the basis that I have eyes.
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by dj43:Just further proof that PFF is b******t.
Here are the PFF ratings/rankings for Brown, Mustapha, and Nick Cross
Brown Ranked #52 among all Safeties Run Defense - 71. Coverage 59
Mustapha #58 RD - 62, Coverage - 60
Nick Cross #66 RD - 72, Coverage - 50
We need a good cover safety, but from these numbers, Nick Cross is not the Safety we are looking for.
So you think Cross would be better than the guys we have now?
On what basis? I'm curious.
...and the eyes of professional analysts who do it for a living, say your eyes are deceiving you.
How often do you watch a game and think a player had a great game and then when the PFF ratings come out telling a different story you think to yourself damn I was wrong?
Mar 11, 2026 at 7:45 AM
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Originally posted by dj43:JJ Watt thinks its b******t aswell.
...and the eyes of professional analysts who do it for a living, say your eyes are deceiving you.
"I've literally sat in a meeting room with coaches and put the grades side by side..
— Pat McAfee (@PatMcAfeeShow) January 17, 2024
A coaches grade and a PFF grade and they're not even close" ~ @JJWatt #PMSLive pic.twitter.com/NzqZy5JObb
Mar 11, 2026 at 9:27 AM
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Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by dj43:JJ Watt thinks its b******t aswell.
...and the eyes of professional analysts who do it for a living, say your eyes are deceiving you.
"I've literally sat in a meeting room with coaches and put the grades side by side..
— Pat McAfee (@PatMcAfeeShow) January 17, 2024
A coaches grade and a PFF grade and they're not even close" ~ @JJWatt #PMSLive pic.twitter.com/NzqZy5JObb
Mar 11, 2026 at 10:27 AM
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Originally posted by Drod1008:
Originally posted by dj43:
What "younger player" did you have in mind?
Thib, Brian Thomas Jr, Michael Wilson Jackson Powers Johnson, Michael Mayer, Cole kmet, Jay Linn Hawkins,
Thib: no idea if available or for what
BTJ: no idea if available or for what. Questionable fit.
Michael Wilson: no idea if available or what, and would require a trade from divisional rival
JPJ: no idea if available or for what. I still believe in him as a talent, but has underperformed in the NFL
Michael Mayer: no idea if available or for what
Cole Kmet: no idea if available, yet to be cut
Hawkins: apparently no one in any rush to sign him
Mike Evans: does not preclude the 49ers from making any of these other moves.
Nick cross: unless everyone is an undercover colts fan or avid tape grinder, i have a feeling most are operating off of his predraft hype. He was a webzone favorite iirc.
[ Edited by adrianlesnar on Mar 11, 2026 at 10:27 AM ]