Nick Cross

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by dj43:
...and the eyes of professional analysts who do it for a living, say your eyes are deceiving you.

JJ Watt thinks its b******t aswell.

"I've literally sat in a meeting room with coaches and put the grades side by side..

A coaches grade and a PFF grade and they're not even close" ~ @JJWatt #PMSLive pic.twitter.com/NzqZy5JObb

— Pat McAfee (@PatMcAfeeShow) January 17, 2024

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:

Originally posted by Drod1008:

Originally posted by dj43:
What "younger player" did you have in mind?

Thib, Brian Thomas Jr, Michael Wilson Jackson Powers Johnson, Michael Mayer, Cole kmet, Jay Linn Hawkins,

Thib: no idea if available or for what

BTJ: no idea if available or for what. Questionable fit.

Michael Wilson: no idea if available or what, and would require a trade from divisional rival

JPJ: no idea if available or for what. I still believe in him as a talent, but has underperformed in the NFL

Michael Mayer: no idea if available or for what

Cole Kmet: no idea if available, yet to be cut

Hawkins: apparently no one in any rush to sign him

Mike Evans: does not preclude the 49ers from making any of these other moves.

Nick cross: unless everyone is an undercover colts fan or avid tape grinder, i have a feeling most are operating off of his predraft hype. He was a webzone favorite iirc.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by dj43:
...and the eyes of professional analysts who do it for a living, say your eyes are deceiving you.

JJ Watt thinks its b******t aswell.

"I've literally sat in a meeting room with coaches and put the grades side by side..

A coaches grade and a PFF grade and they're not even close" ~ @JJWatt #PMSLive pic.twitter.com/NzqZy5JObb

— Pat McAfee (@PatMcAfeeShow) January 17, 2024

PFF is one of the tools used by every journalist and NFL pundit you read. It gives a good overall assessment of the player in 2-3 basic categories. Since all within a position are graded the same way, it is a useful comparison tool. Disregard it if you want but don't argue against it just for the sake of argument, which is what you appear to be doing.

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by dj43:
...and the eyes of professional analysts who do it for a living, say your eyes are deceiving you.

JJ Watt thinks its b******t aswell.

"I've literally sat in a meeting room with coaches and put the grades side by side..

A coaches grade and a PFF grade and they're not even close" ~ @JJWatt #PMSLive pic.twitter.com/NzqZy5JObb

— Pat McAfee (@PatMcAfeeShow) January 17, 2024

PFF is one of the tools used by every journalist and NFL pundit you read. It gives a good overall assessment of the player in 2-3 basic categories. Since all within a position are graded the same way, it is a useful comparison tool. Disregard it if you want but don't argue against it just for the sake of argument, which is what you appear to be doing.

I value the opinion of a guy like Watt and actual coaches and my very own eyes over journalists & pundits by a country mile.

If the criteria they are using to rate players lacks context how is it useful in the least?

What are you basing your claim that I'm arguing simply for the sake of arguing on exactly?

Originally posted by scooterhd:
Hawkins and Cross are both gone now.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by scooterhd:
Hawkins and Cross are both gone now.

Spotrac pretty close on value. Hawkins = $5M/yr. Cross - $7M/yr.

Originally posted by 9NERNATE:
Hope we get Brisker.

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by 9NERNATE:
Hope we get Brisker.

NFL network just said something about the Bears keeping him. I only caught the tail end but it was along those lines

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by dj43:
...and the eyes of professional analysts who do it for a living, say your eyes are deceiving you.

JJ Watt thinks its b******t aswell.

"I've literally sat in a meeting room with coaches and put the grades side by side..

A coaches grade and a PFF grade and they're not even close" ~ @JJWatt #PMSLive pic.twitter.com/NzqZy5JObb

— Pat McAfee (@PatMcAfeeShow) January 17, 2024

PFF is one of the tools used by every journalist and NFL pundit you read. It gives a good overall assessment of the player in 2-3 basic categories. Since all within a position are graded the same way, it is a useful comparison tool. Disregard it if you want but don't argue against it just for the sake of argument, which is what you appear to be doing.

I value the opinion of a guy like Watt and actual coaches and my very own eyes over journalists & pundits by a country mile.

If the criteria they are using to rate players lacks context how is it useful in the least?

What are you basing your claim that I'm arguing simply for the sake of arguing on exactly?

I gave you the reason that so many find it helpful, though not their only source, for comparing players. You're free to hold your own opinion. Just know your eyes do not trump the opinion of others just because they are yours.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by 9NERNATE:
Hope we get Brisker.

NFL network just said something about the Bears keeping him. I only caught the tail end but it was along those lines

Read he's worse than j brown in coverage

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by 9NERNATE:
Hope we get Brisker.

NFL network just said something about the Bears keeping him. I only caught the tail end but it was along those lines

Read he's worse than j brown in coverage

He's not but he's not great either lol
I take Brisker over Brown all day; he's got much more range and a way better tackler

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by 9NERNATE:
Hope we get Brisker.

NFL network just said something about the Bears keeping him. I only caught the tail end but it was along those lines

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by dj43:
...and the eyes of professional analysts who do it for a living, say your eyes are deceiving you.

JJ Watt thinks its b******t aswell.

"I've literally sat in a meeting room with coaches and put the grades side by side..

A coaches grade and a PFF grade and they're not even close" ~ @JJWatt #PMSLive pic.twitter.com/NzqZy5JObb

— Pat McAfee (@PatMcAfeeShow) January 17, 2024

PFF is one of the tools used by every journalist and NFL pundit you read. It gives a good overall assessment of the player in 2-3 basic categories. Since all within a position are graded the same way, it is a useful comparison tool. Disregard it if you want but don't argue against it just for the sake of argument, which is what you appear to be doing.

I value the opinion of a guy like Watt and actual coaches and my very own eyes over journalists & pundits by a country mile.

If the criteria they are using to rate players lacks context how is it useful in the least?

What are you basing your claim that I'm arguing simply for the sake of arguing on exactly?

I gave you the reason that so many find it helpful, though not their only source, for comparing players. You're free to hold your own opinion. Just know your eyes do not trump the opinion of others just because they are yours.

You actually gave me nothing other than that "expert" analysts that developed a system that lacks context that is regularly contradicted by what you see on the actual playing field knows better than everyone else including players & coaches.

So you should be well aware that,that applies to your opinion aswell,you know what they say about opinions don't you?