Stafford Traded to Rams for two 1st's, a 3rd, and Goff

Originally posted by TheXFactor:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Saleh goes to Detroit, SF trades Jimmy and a 2nd for Stafford, SF saves like $20M in cap space over the next 2 yrs and gets a upgrade at QB. There's also a 3rd yr in Stafford's deal to structure and spread out that cash.

They will have needed cap space to make the moves you need to make and get 2 3rd picks by Saleh leaving on top of it.

Who says no?

Stafford is just a little better than Jimmy and a bigger injury risk. Why the hell would we throw a 2nd in for him lol

How do you figure Stafford is a bigger injury risk? Jimmy misses time almost every year he is a starter. Stafford rarely misses a game except half of last year; which is less than Jimmy will miss this year.

Originally posted by pdfortune:

How do you figure Stafford is a bigger injury risk? Jimmy misses time almost every year he is a starter. Stafford rarely misses a game except half of last year; which is less than Jimmy will miss this year.

Stafford is a tough SOB.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by pdfortune:

How do you figure Stafford is a bigger injury risk? Jimmy misses time almost every year he is a starter. Stafford rarely misses a game except half of last year; which is less than Jimmy will miss this year.

Stafford is a tough SOB.

After Kershaw finally won it all now Stafford deserves a chance to do it also.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:
Stafford is just a little better than Jimmy and a bigger injury risk. Why the hell would we throw a 2nd in for him lol

Wut? Stafford is better at just about everything as far as being a QB compared fo Jimmy. How in the world is Stafford a bigger injury risk? Dude has missed just about as many games as he's played in SF

Outside of last yr Stafford has played 16 games for 8 yrs straight

I'm speaking of recently with his back injury. Those are tough to rebound from.
The dude is a fit for an offense that airs it out. That's not us.
Stafford is 0-3 in the post season and 69-82-1 as a starter.

If Saleh does land in Detroit drafting a QB gives him a longer grace period. Coach Shanahan has his eyes on a QB that is mobile, Jimmy G and Stafford don't fit that mold. If Coach finds some solid pieces to add to the offensive line and everyone comes back healthy Jimmy G would be ok. However, the injury factor with Jimmy G is to pronounced and Coach will look for a potential backup who can start.if needed.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
You ad nauseam in the JG thread how bad JG is and we should part from him.. but now JG somehow is a better QB then Stafford for Saleh's first season ?

Saleh would be set himself up for disaster if he let that happen.. if I was Saleh i wouldn't even sign the contract unless i know Stafford will be there

Never said he was better (in fact I said the opposite of that), why do you constantly make up s**t lol?

He's a bridge QB that would understand the scheme that Saleh and one of our coordinators would be installing. He would clearly have to take a pay cut and I don't see him NOT doing that regardless.

They're clearly rebuilding, not every move is made for the long-term...go look at kyle yr one here.

how did i make that up?

you said to trade Matt for JG. Would you do that for your first season as HC ? hell no.. but you think Saleh would ?

Kyle year one did not trade a good QB for Hoyer with a bad contract.

Originally posted by TheXFactor:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:

Stafford is just a little better than Jimmy and a bigger injury risk. Why the hell would we throw a 2nd in for him lol

Wut? Stafford is better at just about everything as far as being a QB compared fo Jimmy. How in the world is Stafford a bigger injury risk? Dude has missed just about as many games as he's played in SF

Outside of last yr Stafford has played 16 games for 8 yrs straight

I'm speaking of recently with his back injury. Those are tough to rebound from.
The dude is a fit for an offense that airs it out. That's not us.
Stafford is 0-3 in the post season and 69-82-1 as a starter.

With a real QB Kyle led a historic offense and with the #2 ranked passing offense.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

how did i make that up?

you said to trade Matt for JG. Would you do that for your first season as HC ? hell no.. but you think Saleh would ?

Kyle year one did not trade a good QB for Hoyer with a bad contract.

Where did I say Jimmy was better? Please show me. Making s**t up.

I mean all I hear in JG's thread is top TD maker, winning %, 3rd down conversions, go to SBs? Where all that now hmmmm?

Yr one kyle made a bunch of moves that weren't for the long term. hoyer, garcon, earl mitchell, Smith etc.

Same s**t just with a better player at QB. They could even draft a QB in the top 10 and be set.

Originally posted by TheXFactor:

I'm speaking of recently with his back injury. Those are tough to rebound from.
The dude is a fit for an offense that airs it out. That's not us.
Stafford is 0-3 in the post season and 69-82-1 as a starter.

Back injury has been a non-factor this yr.

Kyle certainly "aired it out" with Ryan in ATL. There's absolutely no reason as to why Stafford couldn't run this scheme

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:

I'm speaking of recently with his back injury. Those are tough to rebound from.
The dude is a fit for an offense that airs it out. That's not us.
Stafford is 0-3 in the post season and 69-82-1 as a starter.

Back injury has been a non-factor this yr.

Kyle certainly "aired it out" with Ryan in ATL. There's absolutely no reason as to why Stafford couldn't run this scheme

But Stafford can't run this scheme. He's an inaccurate gunslinger. You guys seem to forget the offensive line is terrible and we don't have a deep threat.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Saleh goes to Detroit, SF trades Jimmy and a 2nd for Stafford, SF saves like $20M in cap space over the next 2 yrs and gets a upgrade at QB. There's also a 3rd yr in Stafford's deal to structure and spread out that cash.

They will have needed cap space to make the moves you need to make and get 2 3rd picks by Saleh leaving on top of it.

Who says no?

It would take more than a 2nd to get Detroit to make that deal. First of all, Stafford has proven to be a very good QB despite playing in so many different systems with almost no weapons since CJ retired. He would blow the Shanahan offense wide open with his arm strength and the young WRs here. Garoppolo, OTOH, has done very little in the passing game to recommend him. Saleh knows all that and would want more than one pick in exchange for a guy with HOF abilities in a good system.

Then there is the matter of Stafford's contract here...

There are two things about Stafford that are intriguing to fans and media alike in regards to a potential trade:
1) Stafford is an experienced, talented QB who isn't very old
2) Stafford's contract is reasonable in terms of current QB contracts

Now, let's see if those two things are attractive to Lynch and Shanahan. At this point, it's not out of the realm of possibility that they may pursue him.

Originally posted by TheXFactor:
I'm speaking of recently with his back injury. Those are tough to rebound from.
The dude is a fit for an offense that airs it out. That's not us.
Stafford is 0-3 in the post season and 69-82-1 as a starter.

What makes this offense not a fit for just that? Shanahan in Atlanta showed that he's perfectly happy to let the ball fly down the field if he has the pieces for it. Stafford is also the prototypical pocket passer with the necessary grit and toughness that seems to get Kyle super hot and bothered too.

Originally posted by goldlame2013:
But Stafford can't run this scheme. He's an inaccurate gunslinger. and we don't have a deep threat.

Aiyuk is perfectly capable of being one, but if they added a QB like Stafford, you can bet that they'd add some more deep speed at WR top. Shanahan has no trouble scheming receivers open and with Kittle, Samuel and Aiyuk, defenses would have their hands full if they had to worry about defending the deep pass too.

You guys seem to forget the offensive line is terrible

The offensive line's biggest issue right now is the lack of anything resembling a starting quality center. We saw how vastly different it looked with a healthy Richburg out there so I'm expecting to see center addressed no matter what. Even an average center would result in much improved OL performance.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
how did i make that up?

you said to trade Matt for JG. Would you do that for your first season as HC ? hell no.. but you think Saleh would ?

Kyle year one did not trade a good QB for Hoyer with a bad contract.

Where did I say Jimmy was better? Please show me. Making s**t up.

I mean all I hear in JG's thread is top TD maker, winning %, 3rd down conversions, go to SBs? Where all that now hmmmm?

Yr one kyle made a bunch of moves that weren't for the long term. hoyer, garcon, earl mitchell, Smith etc.

Same s**t just with a better player at QB. They could even draft a QB in the top 10 and be set.

you said it by creating this trade scenario JG for Matt .. No one will do that trade unless you think JG is better than Matt

Not sure what you mean on the Where all that now comment

Kyles first year moves is not equivelent to saleh's trading for JG and a high cap contract as a bridge move (that is a bad move by Saleh)