Joe Williams - RB, Utah

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Jesus, that burst from Joe Williams. pic.twitter.com/atFBLDpzjj

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I'm equally impressed with a FB leading him.

I dont know why i saw all the praise for breida? joe williams had a lot less touches, and in my eyes looked clearly better.... am I wrong?

I was right Joe williams 8.5 ypc, and breida 3.6...

Originally posted by fan49:
I was right Joe williams 8.5 ypc, and breida 3.6...

A good night for each. But they were asked to do completely different things.

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by fan49:
I was right Joe williams 8.5 ypc, and breida 3.6...

A good night for each. But they were asked to do completely different things.

agreed. but 5 yards a carry is a huge difference.

Originally posted by fan49:

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by fan49:
I was right Joe williams 8.5 ypc, and breida 3.6...

A good night for each. But they were asked to do completely different things.

agreed. but 5 yards a carry is a huge difference.

I don't think so. Breida was asked to almost exclusively run between the tackles...frequently. And Williams was asked to do virtually the opposite. Williams did a good job of getting to the outside (his strength) and was able to reap the rewards. Even if Breida made it through the DL he would have a LB or S on him... it's comparatively limited upside.

Not taking anything away from anybody, each did their job. Just saying -- in this game -- YPA is not a useful metric to judge performance.

Originally posted by IdahoNiner:

Originally posted by okdkid:
I think we need to pump the breaks on the Frank Gore comparisons. Frank is likely going to the HOF.

Also, their body types aren't comparable at all. Frank is 5'9" 215. Joe Williams was listed during the broadcast as 5'11" 205.

Williams is known for his speed. Gore is known for virtually everything else a RB can do, except speed.

It's not fair to either player to compare the two. Not simpatico.

I don't think people are making direct comparisons that i have seen? people are talking about Frank in the same breath because he is the best 49ers RB to ever wear the jersey. People started talking about size, so they compared him to gore, etc. Its mostly a differences and similarities type comparisons that i have seen, and not direct player for player comparisons. Two totally different runners.

Gore had speed as a young RB....go back and see the highlights or even better look at his stats and the number of 20+ yard carries he had early on.

Originally posted by okdkid:
I don't think so. Breida was asked to almost exclusively run between the tackles...frequently. And Williams was asked to do virtually the opposite. Williams did a good job of getting to the outside (his strength) and was able to reap the rewards. Even if Breida made it through the DL he would have a LB or S on him... it's comparatively limited upside.

Not taking anything away from anybody, each did their job. Just saying -- in this game -- YPA is not a useful metric to judge performance.

williams big run was through the tackles lol, breida ran outside plenty...

Originally posted by NCommand:
I'm equally impressed with a FB leading him.

he's no Bruise Miller, but he'll have to do.

Originally posted by fan49:

Originally posted by okdkid:
I don't think so. Breida was asked to almost exclusively run between the tackles...frequently. And Williams was asked to do virtually the opposite. Williams did a good job of getting to the outside (his strength) and was able to reap the rewards. Even if Breida made it through the DL he would have a LB or S on him... it's comparatively limited upside.

Not taking anything away from anybody, each did their job. Just saying -- in this game -- YPA is not a useful metric to judge performance.

williams big run was through the tackles lol, breida ran outside plenty...

ok

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by IdahoNiner:

Originally posted by okdkid:
I think we need to pump the breaks on the Frank Gore comparisons. Frank is likely going to the HOF.

Also, their body types aren't comparable at all. Frank is 5'9" 215. Joe Williams was listed during the broadcast as 5'11" 205.

Williams is known for his speed. Gore is known for virtually everything else a RB can do, except speed.

It's not fair to either player to compare the two. Not simpatico.

I don't think people are making direct comparisons that i have seen? people are talking about Frank in the same breath because he is the best 49ers RB to ever wear the jersey. People started talking about size, so they compared him to gore, etc. Its mostly a differences and similarities type comparisons that i have seen, and not direct player for player comparisons. Two totally different runners.

Gore had speed as a young RB....go back and see the highlights or even better look at his stats and the number of 20+ yard carries he had early on.

I personally never said he didnt. The knees, but also IMO the hip, did him no favors with speed however.

once again breida received acknowledgment from pff. When joe williams showed everything and more off 7 snaps. I don't get it at all. But Ill wait and see but I say cut Hightower, Williams is the number 2, breida 3

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by Joecool:
Joe Williams is 5'11 210 pounds.

I still don't see why he is considered a small back. He has very good size for a rookie RB and can easily gain 5 to 10 pounds. He is a 4-down back.

I don't recall size being the knock against him. I think it was his upright running style and inability to create. That's what (for now) keeps him from being a "four down back". He obviously excels outside the tackles. You need that on the team. But you also need somebody who can make it happen between the tackles as well...IF you want to be a four down back.

joe williams was drafted because he can create lol. Why do you not see what is being shown. He is a 1 cut back with amazing burst. Thats what kyle wants.... HIt the whole hard make one cut and burst. or sprint outside and cut up field. He does it all.

Thunder and lightning. Carlos and Joe.

Originally posted by ChazBoner:

Originally posted by NCommand:

I'm equally impressed with a FB leading him.

he's no Bruise Miller, but he'll have to do.

Boom!