2014 49ers Free Agents

I think Brown will be back and a good deal. Remember last year when Sean Smith and that crew of corners thought they were getting big bucks. CB market didn't yield super high salaries last year so I don't see that happening this year. I think the CB market will be pretty reasonable

has Baalke already restructured Rodgers contract before? he needs to take another cut to somehow keep brown. Eric Wright needs to be resigned also.

Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:
has Baalke already restructured Rodgers contract before? he needs to take another cut to somehow keep brown. Eric Wright needs to be resigned also.

No we threatened to cut Rogers if he didn't restructure, he said no then Culliver tore his ACL so we had to keep him. He'll be told to do it this year or be cut and this time he'll almost assuredly be cut.

Wright likely won't be resigned. I'm just parroting the media with this but the team is apparently unhappy with his preparation for games, no specific reason is given. If he is back it'll be a minimum salary deal and not guaranteed a spot. Just like Perrish Cox who, according to the media will not be tendered at $1.3M but likely brought back on a minimum deal to compete for a roster spot.

Also nothing earth shattering here but this is how I view our FAs this year.

Priority
WR Anquan Boldin - Crucial to have a sustained group of WRs for Kaepernick's development and he is a leader for the entire locker room.
PK Phil Dawson - We saw how important a kicker was when Akers' skills completely deteriorated. Dawson is a must.

Luxury Priority
SS Donte Whitner - Start a rookie at SS and losing a true leader for our team could be more costly than resigning Whitner. But that is a gamble for the FO to take, I'm no professional.
WR Kassim Osgood - Key special teamer, when we've shuffled our ST players we've seen a very noticeable decline so we should try and keep him. However can we afford to play a 33 year old his 10 year+ vet minimum for a guy to may be good for 5 catches a season in this O?

Test Market
CB Tarell Brown - CB market will probably be flat so we may get him back equal or less value than Brock's deal
OL Jonathan Goodwin - May retire may not but a similar proposition to Osgood, can we justify paying Goodwin a 10 year vet minimum when we have younger players that could be an upgrade

Minimum Salary
CB Eric Wright - I would even say that we may let him walk but I think Baalke/Harbuagh may be stubborn and given yet another chance to make a mark.
QB Colt McCoy - We can upgrade so easily as this position but he'll probably come back to fight for a roster spot.
CB Perrish Cox - RFA not worth 1.3 when we are so strapped but he'll probably be willing to come back on a minimum deal.
DL Demarcus Dobbs - RFA not worth 1.3 when we are so strapped but he'll probably be willing to come back on a minimum deal.

Let them walk
WR Mario Manningham - Sadly Rio couldn't and may never fully recover from his injury. He won't be in SF next year but I do hope to see him play again.
RB Anthony Dixon - Incredibly versatile but we simply have too many more talented players ahead of him on the depth chart. He'll go somewhere for a cheap deal but he'll probably see the field more.

Exclusive rights
LB Michael Wilhoite - Bowman's injury means we will definitely bring Wilhoite back at such a low tender amount.

Originally posted by sfout:

Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:
has Baalke already restructured Rodgers contract before? he needs to take another cut to somehow keep brown. Eric Wright needs to be resigned also.

No we threatened to cut Rogers if he didn't restructure, he said no then Culliver tore his ACL so we had to keep him. He'll be told to do it this year or be cut and this time he'll almost assuredly be cut.

Wright likely won't be resigned. I'm just parroting the media with this but the team is apparently unhappy with his preparation for games, no specific reason is given. If he is back it'll be a minimum salary deal and not guaranteed a spot. Just like Perrish Cox who, according to the media will not be tendered at $1.3M but likely brought back on a minimum deal to compete for a roster spot.

the thing we've done in the past in that situation was bring in a fodder to push him (dixon, mccoy). if he comes in we'll probably bring in someone. wright has skill, but then again if that's the case he'll leave for the money.....


resigning wright will determine if we cut rogers i think......

Originally posted by sfout:
Also nothing earth shattering here but this is how I view our FAs this year.

Priority
WR Anquan Boldin - Crucial to have a sustained group of WRs for Kaepernick's development and he is a leader for the entire locker room.
PK Phil Dawson - We saw how important a kicker was when Akers' skills completely deteriorated. Dawson is a must.

Luxury Priority
SS Donte Whitner - Start a rookie at SS and losing a true leader for our team could be more costly than resigning Whitner. But that is a gamble for the FO to take, I'm no professional.
WR Kassim Osgood - Key special teamer, when we've shuffled our ST players we've seen a very noticeable decline so we should try and keep him. However can we afford to play a 33 year old his 10 year+ vet minimum for a guy to may be good for 5 catches a season in this O?

Test Market
CB Tarell Brown - CB market will probably be flat so we may get him back equal or less value than Brock's deal
OL Jonathan Goodwin - May retire may not but a similar proposition to Osgood, can we justify paying Goodwin a 10 year vet minimum when we have younger players that could be an upgrade

Minimum Salary
CB Eric Wright - I would even say that we may let him walk but I think Baalke/Harbuagh may be stubborn and given yet another chance to make a mark.
QB Colt McCoy - We can upgrade so easily as this position but he'll probably come back to fight for a roster spot.
CB Perrish Cox - RFA not worth 1.3 when we are so strapped but he'll probably be willing to come back on a minimum deal.
DL Demarcus Dobbs - RFA not worth 1.3 when we are so strapped but he'll probably be willing to come back on a minimum deal.

Let them walk
WR Mario Manningham - Sadly Rio couldn't and may never fully recover from his injury. He won't be in SF next year but I do hope to see him play again.
RB Anthony Dixon - Incredibly versatile but we simply have too many more talented players ahead of him on the depth chart. He'll go somewhere for a cheap deal but he'll probably see the field more.

Exclusive rights
LB Michael Wilhoite - Bowman's injury means we will definitely bring Wilhoite back at such a low tender amount.

Agree with this 100%. Osgood though seems more of a need priority re-signing. But that's just me. I love Osgood and hope he is back in 2014. Everything else is spot on. Dobbs and Cox wont get the $1.389M tender, too much money for part time players. Better off signing 1yr $645K deals.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Agree with this 100%. Osgood though seems more of a need priority re-signing. But that's just me. I love Osgood and hope he is back in 2014. Everything else is spot on. Dobbs and Cox wont get the $1.389M tender, too much money for part time players. Better off signing 1yr $645K deals.

Yea I think Osgood is a priority as well but it is just the money to production ratio worth it for a 90% ST only kinda guy? Did you see that Blake Constanzo just threw himself at the 9ers via tweet? If we could bring back Constanzo and resign Osgood we'd be set, especially with Ventrone's and Morris' speed.

Originally posted by sfout:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Agree with this 100%. Osgood though seems more of a need priority re-signing. But that's just me. I love Osgood and hope he is back in 2014. Everything else is spot on. Dobbs and Cox wont get the $1.389M tender, too much money for part time players. Better off signing 1yr $645K deals.

Yea I think Osgood is a priority as well but it is just the money to production ratio worth it for a 90% ST only kinda guy? Did you see that Blake Constanzo just threw himself at the 9ers via tweet? If we could bring back Constanzo and resign Osgood we'd be set, especially with Ventrone's and Morris' speed.

It may be a signing to keep Seely happy. They let some really good ST players go and have paid for it in the past, hope they don't do so now. I was amazed at how many plays Osgood made...one tough guy.

Originally posted by Gore_21:
Here is my updated list:

Re-Sign: Wilhoite(2-3,Min), Osgood(1,Min), Wright OR Cox(1-2,Min), Dawson(1, 2.5mil), Boldin(1-2, 5-6mil per)
Let Go: Dixon, McCoy, Dobbs, Goodwin, Manningham, Brown, Whitner
Cut: Rogers (5.1 Mil Saved), Baldwin (1.4mil Saved)
Work On Extensions: Gore (Add 1 Yr?, Lower 14 Cap #),Crabtree,Miller,Culliver,Aldon,Kap?|Add 1-2 Yrs: Skuta? Dorsey? Kilgore? Spillman?
Let Go After 2014: Iupati, Hunter

Bumping this, surprised more people aren't talking FA with it here but I think it kind of got spread out over a bunch of threads. As for updating still think the same. Whitner is my only question mark if he would come back for 1-2 years and not 3-4 and at 2-3 million not 3-4 a year. My other question mark is do we add a year on for Gore and lower his 2014 number or just have him lower his 2014 number and see how he does this year. Either way I'm sure he will restructure to help us with the cap. He's worth 6 million but if he wants to win a ring he will have to lower that 2-4 million. As for the Work on Extensions part that doesn't necessarily mean during this offseason could some time during the upcoming season.

Originally posted by Gore_21:

Bumping this, surprised more people aren't talking FA with it here but I think it kind of got spread out over a bunch of threads. As for updating still think the same. Whitner is my only question mark if he would come back for 1-2 years and not 3-4 and at 2-3 million not 3-4 a year. My other question mark is do we add a year on for Gore and lower his 2014 number or just have him lower his 2014 number and see how he does this year. Either way I'm sure he will restructure to help us with the cap. He's worth 6 million but if he wants to win a ring he will have to lower that 2-4 million. As for the Work on Extensions part that doesn't necessarily mean during this offseason could some time during the upcoming season.

Whitner for only 2 million a year AND for only 2 years max? Not only would he laugh in your face but the rest of the team would be upset with that kind of low ball offer. Do you honestly believe he would even listen to an offer like that? That's one of the most obtuse thoughts I've heard.

Whitner made 3.85 million base in '13. He's not going to take less than that on an average annual year basis. Something like a 3 year 12 million deal would be as low as he would go.

Release Rogers and use some of his money towards Whitner. Let Brown walk and target a CB in the 1st then a WR in the 2nd. That should be the plan.

Originally posted by RumorHasIt:
Whitner for only 2 million a year AND for only 2 years max? Not only would he laugh in your face but the rest of the team would be upset with that kind of low ball offer. Do you honestly believe he would even listen to an offer like that? That's one of the most obtuse thoughts I've heard.

Whitner made 3.85 million base in '13. He's not going to take less than that on an average annual year basis. Something like a 3 year 12 million deal would be as low as he would go.

Release Rogers and use some of his money towards Whitner. Let Brown walk and target a CB in the 1st then a WR in the 2nd. That should be the plan.

I didn't say he would except 2-3 million I said that's what I would offer. Something like 1 year 3 million, 2 years 5-6 million. If he wants 3-4 years and 12 million like you think I would let him walk. You're right he probably wants 3-4 years at like 3-4 million a year I just think that's too much for him at 29 and I'd move on. Yeah we did sign him for 3 years, 11.75 million (3.91 average) back then but he was also going on 26 years old not 29. It's risky, we signed Rogers at 30 I believe to 4 years because we were desperate and had no CB depth and 2 years later we will likely cut him and have 3 mil in dead money. Not saying Whitner will be the same way it's just that IMO we have future cornerstones at 24-26 years old to re-sign and to me they are more important than Whitner at 29. That being said I am not a big fan of this SS class and Whitner could be our best option for next year I just hope the price and length work out for both.

update on next page.

maybe jon baldwin stays since he reduced his pay alot?

Originally posted by RumorHasIt:

Originally posted by Gore_21:

Bumping this, surprised more people aren't talking FA with it here but I think it kind of got spread out over a bunch of threads. As for updating still think the same. Whitner is my only question mark if he would come back for 1-2 years and not 3-4 and at 2-3 million not 3-4 a year. My other question mark is do we add a year on for Gore and lower his 2014 number or just have him lower his 2014 number and see how he does this year. Either way I'm sure he will restructure to help us with the cap. He's worth 6 million but if he wants to win a ring he will have to lower that 2-4 million. As for the Work on Extensions part that doesn't necessarily mean during this offseason could some time during the upcoming season.

Whitner for only 2 million a year AND for only 2 years max? Not only would he laugh in your face but the rest of the team would be upset with that kind of low ball offer. Do you honestly believe he would even listen to an offer like that? That's one of the most obtuse thoughts I've heard.

Whitner made 3.85 million base in '13. He's not going to take less than that on an average annual year basis. Something like a 3 year 12 million deal would be as low as he would go.

Release Rogers and use some of his money towards Whitner. Let Brown walk and target a CB in the 1st then a WR in the 2nd. That should be the plan.

Totally agree. He may take a single year 4 million but we need to spread his contract over 4 years to use cap space in the future.

Yeah I see Baldwin restructured but no guarantee he stays even at 600k. He could very well be cut. I'm thinking a high pick and a mid round rookie and that would put Baldwin on the outside because I think we re-sign Osgood for ST purposes so he will be the 5th or 6th WR (depending on how many we keep) but active on game days. Maybe if we pick a WR early and then one in the 7th Baldwin might have a shot by beating out the 7th rounder who would go to the PS most likely. If Osgood and Boldin back and we pick one in the 1st/2nd and then another in the 3rd-5th it wouldn't look good for Baldwin since it's unlikely we would cut a mid round pick.

Edit: I see Maiocco has Dahl as another player we will ask to restructure or get cut. That could save us 1.883 mil with a 466k cap hit so 1.416 is our overall savings. Ventrone's ST play kind of made him unnecessary although Dahl is a better SS backup but you still don't want him playing. I could see us having him cut it in half to around 750-800k or being cut.