2014 49ers Free Agents

Originally posted by 228niner:

Originally posted by LBSI9ers:

Originally posted by kronik:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Disagree Karma. Boldin is re-signable. And at $5-$6M a yr he is a bargain IMO.

Brown IMO doesn't deserve "big money", he is inconsistent at times. He is a Brock deal IMO, but will be overpaid.

Do we really have room? I rather lock up our younger core like Kaep, Aldon, Iupati, Crabtree before considering resigning Boldin. If those 4 can be resigned first, then I'm fine with a short contract with Anquan.

How much projected cap space do we have next year? And the year after that?

I think bolden is very very important because of his leadership. Plenty of time to get deals for aldon iupati kap. Crabtree is gone he is greedy doesn't care about the team. He's gone. Iupati will want 9-10 million a year.

Why do people still say Crabs is greedy and doesn't care about the team? He has an issue his rookie year, in the past two years plus he has been an excellent team player

Honestly, when the time comes do you think Crabtree will decide to go back to SF or Dallas? I personally think he would choose to go back to Dallas in a heartbeat and give them a home town discount.

In what universe are you living in where a guy takes a discount in his prime to play for a team he has no ties too. Where you go from the man to bieng in Bryant's shadows

If Alex Smith was still the starter, I think Crabtree would walk. But with a Super Bowl appearance, and a great QB-WR relationship, I think Crabtree has a solid gig here to get paid bank and compete for the championship every single year in SF.

Originally posted by GEEK:
If Alex Smith was still the starter, I think Crabtree would walk. But with a Super Bowl appearance, and a great QB-WR relationship, I think Crabtree has a solid gig here to get paid bank and compete for the championship every single year in SF.

Have you seen how happy he looks to be on the field making plays the last few games? Yeah I know, he chucked the ball against TB, but that was because...he wants to make more plays. I think (optimistically) that he is in a good place here and knows it.

Originally posted by swayze:

Originally posted by GEEK:

If Alex Smith was still the starter, I think Crabtree would walk. But with a Super Bowl appearance, and a great QB-WR relationship, I think Crabtree has a solid gig here to get paid bank and compete for the championship every single year in SF.

Have you seen how happy he looks to be on the field making plays the last few games? Yeah I know, he chucked the ball against TB, but that was because...he wants to make more plays. I think (optimistically) that he is in a good place here and knows it.

Agree

Originally posted by 228niner:

Originally posted by LBSI9ers:

Originally posted by kronik:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Disagree Karma. Boldin is re-signable. And at $5-$6M a yr he is a bargain IMO.

Brown IMO doesn't deserve "big money", he is inconsistent at times. He is a Brock deal IMO, but will be overpaid.

Do we really have room? I rather lock up our younger core like Kaep, Aldon, Iupati, Crabtree before considering resigning Boldin. If those 4 can be resigned first, then I'm fine with a short contract with Anquan.

How much projected cap space do we have next year? And the year after that?

I think bolden is very very important because of his leadership. Plenty of time to get deals for aldon iupati kap. Crabtree is gone he is greedy doesn't care about the team. He's gone. Iupati will want 9-10 million a year.

Why do people still say Crabs is greedy and doesn't care about the team? He has an issue his rookie year, in the past two years plus he has been an excellent team player

They won't let go of the contract holdout. I'm hoping we can get Crabtree signed to a deal similar to the one Victor Cruz got. If he will take 8-9 million, we will be in great shape.

Dallas can barely afford to pay their own s**tty players I doubt they'll be able to afford a Crabtree type deal. He just needs to get resigned without testing free agency.

Signed:

Justin Smith--2016
Tramain Brock—2019



Are these still current? (guys I want to keep) (if ? the money is right) (only as a mentor)

Anquan Boldin--2014 (keep)
Jonathan Goodwin--2014 (mentor)
Donte Whitner--2014 (mentor)
TarellBrown--2014 (?)
Mario Manningham--2014 (?)
Phil Dawson--2014 (keep)
Colt McCoy--2014 (?)
Anthony Dixon--2014 (keep)
Demarcus Dobbs--2014 (?)
Parrish Cox--2014 (?)
Will Takuafu--2014 (?)
Michael Wilhoite--2014 (?)

Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Signed:

Justin Smith--2016
Tramain Brock—2019



Are these still current? (guys I want to keep) (if ? the money is right) (only as a mentor)

Anquan Boldin--2014 (keep)
Jonathan Goodwin--2014 (mentor)
Donte Whitner--2014 (mentor)
TarellBrown--2014 (?)
Mario Manningham--2014 (?)
Phil Dawson--2014 (keep)
Colt McCoy--2014 (?)
Anthony Dixon--2014 (keep)
Demarcus Dobbs--2014 (?)
Parrish Cox--2014 (?)
Will Takuafu--2014 (?)
Michael Wilhoite--2014 (?)

Dixon will only be on this team if Lattimore isn't on the 53 or if we trade James or Hunter. Lattimore would be active on game days if he is good to go and having 5 RBs and a FB active for a game is just absurd.

I think a team will offer Dixon a spot in a RB committee and ST role for decent cash.

The Texans are going to let Ben Tate test FA and the rest of their RBs are tiny so he could go there
Same with the Jags that will let MJD see what the market is
Titans are probably going to send CJ packing, especially if Munchak gets the axe so there is a potential suitor.

That is just 3 teams and I'm sure there are more that wouldn't mind having a ST, FB, short yardage guy on their roster.
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Thank god Wilhoite is an EFA so we'll retain him without any issues for at least 1 more year.

Originally posted by sfout:
Dixon will only be on this team if Lattimore isn't on the 53 or if we trade James or Hunter. Lattimore would be active on game days if he is good to go and having 5 RBs and a FB active for a game is just absurd.

I think a team will offer Dixon a spot in a RB committee and ST role for decent cash.

The Texans are going to let Ben Tate test FA and the rest of their RBs are tiny so he could go there
Same with the Jags that will let MJD see what the market is
Titans are probably going to send CJ packing, especially if Munchak gets the axe so there is a potential suitor.

That is just 3 teams and I'm sure there are more that wouldn't mind having a ST, FB, short yardage guy on their roster.
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Thank god Wilhoite is an EFA so we'll retain him without any issues for at least 1 more year.

The question marks designate guys I would invite to camp and sign for minimum contracts...or trade. The bottom line is they are not going to break the bank (perhaps Brown and Manningham will garner some interest) and if they want to sign I'm good with that. Dixon would be an insurance signing that would really help STs and I could see Hunter or James being traded if Lattimore is Gore's eventual replacement. Dixon gives the niners some leverage.

If the niners get creative they may package picks and players to move around for specific targets. Hunter would be the most tempting RB I would think.

Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Signed:

Justin Smith--2016
Tramain Brock—2019



Are these still current? (guys I want to keep) (if ? the money is right) (only as a mentor)

Anquan Boldin--2014 (keep)
Jonathan Goodwin--2014 (mentor)
Donte Whitner--2014 (mentor)
TarellBrown--2014 (?)
Mario Manningham--2014 (?)
Phil Dawson--2014 (keep)
Colt McCoy--2014 (?)
Anthony Dixon--2014 (keep)
Demarcus Dobbs--2014 (?)
Parrish Cox--2014 (?)
Will Takuafu--2014 (?)
Michael Wilhoite--2014 (?)

At this point, I don't think Johnathan Goodwin can offer much. They should let him walk. I'd love for them to be able to keep Anthony Dixon, but unless we win the Super Bowl, Frank Gore is Super Bowl MVP and he suddenly decides to retire, or calls 2014 his last season, Dixon is gone. He can get a lot more elsewhere and will have the opportunity (and deservedly so) to be the number two running back on another team. Tarrell Brown is as good as gone. He is a good corner and will get serious interest from other teams. I'm not sure who else is available, but he's probably one of the best that will be a free agent this offseason.

The remaining players can and should be here. Will Tukuafu, DeMarcus Dobbs, Colt McCoy, and Mario Manningham could be offered minimum contracts with no guaranteed money. Mario didn't look too good this season and could possibly be at full strength next season. If he is willing to play for veteran minimum for a year, he can come back and earn a more decent contract for 2015 and beyond. I hope the remaining guys (Cox, Wilhoite, Boldin, and Whitner) are given multi-year cap friendly contracts.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Signed:

Justin Smith--2016
Tramain Brock—2019



Are these still current? (guys I want to keep) (if ? the money is right) (only as a mentor)

Anquan Boldin--2014 (keep)
Jonathan Goodwin--2014 (mentor)
Donte Whitner--2014 (mentor)
TarellBrown--2014 (?)
Mario Manningham--2014 (?)
Phil Dawson--2014 (keep)
Colt McCoy--2014 (?)
Anthony Dixon--2014 (keep)
Demarcus Dobbs--2014 (?)
Parrish Cox--2014 (?)
Will Takuafu--2014 (?)
Michael Wilhoite--2014 (?)

At this point, I don't think Johnathan Goodwin can offer much. They should let him walk. I'd love for them to be able to keep Anthony Dixon, but unless we win the Super Bowl, Frank Gore is Super Bowl MVP and he suddenly decides to retire, or calls 2014 his last season, Dixon is gone. He can get a lot more elsewhere and will have the opportunity (and deservedly so) to be the number two running back on another team. Tarrell Brown is as good as gone. He is a good corner and will get serious interest from other teams. I'm not sure who else is available, but he's probably one of the best that will be a free agent this offseason.

The remaining players can and should be here. Will Tukuafu, DeMarcus Dobbs, Colt McCoy, and Mario Manningham could be offered minimum contracts with no guaranteed money. Mario didn't look too good this season and could possibly be at full strength next season. If he is willing to play for veteran minimum for a year, he can come back and earn a more decent contract for 2015 and beyond. I hope the remaining guys (Cox, Wilhoite, Boldin, and Whitner) are given multi-year cap friendly contracts.

Most likely to stay are Boldin, Dawson and Whitner, not including Wilhoite since he can't negotiate with anyone else.

I would let Colt go or signed to minimum, problem is if he makes the week 1 53 man roster, his base becomes guaranteed, so Idk If I would want him back.

Dobbs, Tukuafu, and Cox would be back on 1 yr deal. Not sure 100% wise, but Tukuafu might be a EFA, since he didn't play enough games to earn an accrued season. But I also was in the player database, and he has 2014 listed as a year, but no salary just 00, so I have to ask around to see if he may signed a 2yr deal.

Dobbs and Cox 1yr minimum for a 4th year player. Which should be $645,000.

I like Mario, but I say let him walk.

Brown will bolt, not worth the time IMO. Worry about the 3(Whitner, Boldin, Dawson) over Brown

And also Dixon is gone likely, we have better backs above him, If Latti is back, we are dynamic.

And Goodwin I am torn on, I want a ring for him, so retire, but not sure Kilgore is ready.

AB--Dixon is a favorite of STs coach Seely and that may make a difference in keeping him. They made a mistake a couple years ago when they let all their top ST players go and they committed to Osgood and others this year. Dixon also offers them a tweener RB/FB, making him unique on the roster. I agree that if they keep Gore, Hunter, James, Miller and Lattimore there will be no room for him on the 53...but just think there may be a move to open a spot for him.

Whitner and Goodwin are similar to me. Both are bright and can call the sets for their units, but are past prime and need to be replaced sooner rather than later.

I agree that Boldin and Dawson are both important players for the team to retain...not impossible to replace, but keep them if possible!

Everyone else can leave or stay and compete with the draftees.

Originally posted by dtg_9er:
AB--Dixon is a favorite of STs coach Seely and that may make a difference in keeping him. They made a mistake a couple years ago when they let all their top ST players go

Maybe I am overrating Dixon, as I am a big Miss State fan and like his versatility.... but I don't think he will want to stay. I think he will feel he can get more carries ( an overall bigger role ) with some other team. He sure won't have increased carries here with Lattimore getting ready to take more snaps. I suspect Dix can be a solid 2 punch that can get 10-15 carries as he plays thunder to a team's lightening. SF would have to pay him roughly a million (I think) to keep him around, and that's if he is cool staying.

Not a huge issue to deal with overall... but I think he's gone.

Originally posted by Mr.Mcgibblets:
Maybe I am overrating Dixon, as I am a big Miss State fan and like his versatility.... but I don't think he will want to stay. I think he will feel he can get more carries ( an overall bigger role ) with some other team. He sure won't have increased carries here with Lattimore getting ready to take more snaps. I suspect Dix can be a solid 2 punch that can get 10-15 carries as he plays thunder to a team's lightening. SF would have to pay him roughly a million (I think) to keep him around, and that's if he is cool staying.

Not a huge issue to deal with overall... but I think he's gone.

Yes, that seems likely. My list is who I would want to stay versus who matters little to me or the team...or who just don't seem to be a good fit. I agree with you that Dixon has more value than most credit him with...(now that he runs straight, rather than sideways:). I could see him going to another team lacking the wealth of RBs the niners have accumulated. But they have been good to Dixon and have given him time to grow...so don't know how he feels about leaving. Will he be given that chance elsewhere?

It would be ironic if he landed in KC! I could see him in the mix there but they already have a backup RB who is pretty darned good. But he may wish to return closer to home in the south.