Nnamdi Asomugha was a 49er

Originally posted by GNielsen:
The quickest and shiftiest in the league was Harvin. When he played the Niners he had 9 receptions for 89 yards and no TD's.

That's a pretty good day for a WR on a running team.

Originally posted by paperplanemedia:
That's a pretty good day for a WR on a running team.

Other than Kyle Rudolph, Harvin was the only guy Ponder threw those short passes, check downs, and dump offs to

Originally posted by TTown9ers:
Here is a good breakdown of Nnamdi vs Megatron last season.

http://www.ninersnation.com/2013/4/16/4227620/all-22-nnamdi-asomugha-vs-calvin-johnson

I like that Nnamdi played some LCB too. I thought he was strictly a RCB. Rogers' playing time will be threatened.

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by paperplanemedia:
That's a pretty good day for a WR on a running team.

Other than Kyle Rudolph, Harvin was the only guy Ponder threw those short passes, check downs, and dump offs to

I believe that game was Ponder's best game of the year. And Peterson didn't even run for 100 yards in that game. Ponder had about 200 yards and 2 TD's. And the other thing I've noticed is that when you watch the Percy Harvin highlight film that has gone kind of viral, the section he looks almost the least effective is the Niner section where they're just pummeling the heck out of him when he catches the ball. He's running free on most of the highlight reel, but when he plays the Niners, there are no TD's and no long plays - there are a lot of tough tackles.

I think Asomugha, if he works out, can give the Niners a number of ways to deal with Harvin. Asomugha can just stick with their tallest receiver, Rice and harass the hell out of him all game. Then, they can take T. Brown, who seems to be the quickest corner, and put him on Harvin and they can always shade Bowman or Willis, both of whom are extremely quick to whatever side Harvin's on in the slot and blast him when he catches those short passes. There is always the possibility that they'll draft a very quick corner who can stick with him. Harvin is definitely someone they have to scheme for, but for some reason, I agree with Marvin49 - I'm not that worried about him.

Nnamdi's always been skinny

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by TTown9ers:
Here is a good breakdown of Nnamdi vs Megatron last season.

http://www.ninersnation.com/2013/4/16/4227620/all-22-nnamdi-asomugha-vs-calvin-johnson

I like that Nnamdi played some LCB too. I thought he was strictly a RCB. Rogers' playing time will be threatened.

"Conclusion:
The Eagles safety was beat twice in the plays above and Asomugha bailed him out both times.

When you give up 44 receptions while surrendering 698 yards, 300 of those after the catch, one has to wonder how many of those yards resulted from Asomugha getting little-to-no support."

So the point is, Nnamdi is screwed if our front 7 doesn't get there in time and our S's continue to absolutely BLOW in coverage and provide zero support (see Culliver in the Superbowl).

Baalke needs to find both a tall, strong and physical FS with some serious speed, brains and range...saldy we need this at SS as well.

Expect the top three picks to be FS, DE & TE followed by NT, CB & WR/KR

Originally posted by NCommand:

"Conclusion:
The Eagles safety was beat twice in the plays above and Asomugha bailed him out both times.

When you give up 44 receptions while surrendering 698 yards, 300 of those after the catch, one has to wonder how many of those yards resulted from Asomugha getting little-to-no support."

So the point is, Nnamdi is screwed if our front 7 doesn't get there in time and our S's continue to absolutely BLOW in coverage and provide zero support (see Culliver in the Superbowl).

Baalke needs to find both a tall, strong and physical FS with some serious speed, brains and range...saldy we need this at SS as well.

Expect the top three picks to be FS, DE & TE followed by NT, CB & WR/KR

I dont think that was the point neccessarily. he stuck in well in man coverage but in zones when the safety failed to cover his portion of the field he didnt do well. But no cb really will when the assigned reciever isnt in his zone anymore.
I would expect possibly the first two in early rounds i read an article on why we may not get a te in the early rounds of the draft yesterday i just have to find it again.
http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=nflnation&id=75395&src=desktop decent read and makes some sense.

Originally posted by LoneWolf:
I dont think that was the point neccessarily. he stuck in well in man coverage but in zones when the safety failed to cover his portion of the field he didnt do well. But no cb really will when the assigned reciever isnt in his zone anymore.
I would expect possibly the first two in early rounds i read an article on why we may not get a te in the early rounds of the draft yesterday i just have to find it again.

Against Calvin, yes, he not only played very well but covered up his S's mistakes...and the point was that of the abysmal numbers he gave up, it was questioned how many other yards were attributed to poor S coverage; how much was truly his responsibility (esp. after the catch) and how much was d/t to poor coaching (or no coaching at all in this case) and other factors. That is why I noted we REALLY suck at the S position re: coverage and that was WITH Goldson.

So for those who think VF's scheme is going to somehow disguise that, it isn't going to happen...hence why it's now up to Baalke to get those S's who CAN cover and help out our CB's and ensure we have a rotation at DL and OLB to provide consistent pressure to help out the secondary.

Then, VF, once he has confidence in his S coverage and front 7 pass rush, he might be able to dial up more pressure from Willis/Bowman and play them more down hill vs. being stuck in underneath coverage for the S's esp. in the RZ/EZ.

PS: And thanks for the reference article!

Originally posted by NCommand:

Against Calvin, yes, he not only played very well but covered up his S's mistakes...and the point was that of the abysmal numbers he gave up, it was questioned how many other yards were attributed to him (esp. after the catch) but we truly d/t to poor coaching (or no coaching in this case) and piss poor S play. That is why I noted we REALLY suck at the S position re: coverage and that was WITH Goldson.

So for those who think VF's scheme is going to somehow disguise that, it isn't going to happen...hence why it's now up to Baalke to get those S's who CAN cover and help out our CB's and ensure we have a rotation at DL and OLB to provide consistent pressure to help out the secondary.

Then, VF, once he has confidence in his S coverage and front 7 pass rush, he might be able to dial up more pressure from Willis/Bowman and play them more down hill vs. being stuck in underneath coverage for the S's esp. in the RZ/EZ.

Agree. I think all the cbs would have issues without good safety assistance i worry more about rogers or brown a little more with poor safety assistance then Nnamdi but i agree we need our safety situation squared away and it will probably have to be addressed in the draft, or we will be stuck leaning on the front 7 all season again. However even with great safeties i dont think that would change fangios gameplan that much.

Originally posted by LoneWolf:
I read an article on why we may not get a TE in the early rounds of the draft yesterday I just have to find it again.
http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=nflnation&id=75395&src=desktop decent read and makes some sense.

This is an interesting read. Obviously, with our cap, there is no way we were going to pay/tag Walker 6M. That said, one thing we truly lacked in the RZ esp. was that taller, bigger target. Granted both Walker and VD were open in the final plays of the Superbowl but CK chose Crabtree. Boldin is basically a Superbowl MVP to me and brings a physicality to the WR group we haven't had since TO. He will get many targets along with Crabtree. VD will get his number called a lot too. But we shouldn't underestimate Walker and his support in the run game and sometimes, in the passing game. If we do get that Ertz or Kelce, we now have that tall target that has destroyed US in the playoffs and against quality teams and gives Roman even more options in using various formations and creating mismatches all over the field...one or both running and/or blocking out of the Q, in traditional lineups, one at TE up at the LOS while the other is split out wide at WR. in motion, at the goal line, etc.

Originally posted by LoneWolf:
Agree. I think all the cbs would have issues without good safety assistance i worry more about rogers or brown a little more with poor safety assistance then Nnamdi but i agree we need our safety situation squared away and it will probably have to be addressed in the draft, or we will be stuck leaning on the front 7 all season again. However even with great safeties i dont think that would change fangios gameplan that much.

VF concerns me and I'm worried you may be right here! I also agree, at this juncture, I may have more confidence in Nnamdi over Brown...I already trust him more than Rogers...to me, Rogers dogged it all year long playing 1/2 speed (like he was saving himself for the playoff...or just got paid) and then never showed up in the playoffs at all (at least Brown played well and had a big play when it mattered most).

To me i like fangios game plan. If you can get to the qb with 4 thats leaves 7 to cover in this pass happy league, usually the lbs that dont pass rush cover the short middle "zones" and also stop the runs usually for little gain. But i admit i would be happier with a blitz or sending 5 or 6 at the correct time every now and again also dline rotation for less wear and tear on the positions that are vital to us just having rush 4.

Originally posted by LoneWolf:
To me i like fangios game plan. If you can get to the qb with 4 thats leaves 7 to cover in this pass happy league, usually the lbs that dont pass rush cover the short middle "zones" and also stop the runs usually for little gain. But i admit i would be happier with a blitz or sending 5 or 6 at the correct time every now and again also dline rotation for less wear and tear on the positions that are vital to us just having rush 4.

No doubt about it! And maybe not playing your CB's 15 yards off on 3rd and 5. LOL

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by LoneWolf:
To me i like fangios game plan. If you can get to the qb with 4 thats leaves 7 to cover in this pass happy league, usually the lbs that dont pass rush cover the short middle "zones" and also stop the runs usually for little gain. But i admit i would be happier with a blitz or sending 5 or 6 at the correct time every now and again also dline rotation for less wear and tear on the positions that are vital to us just having rush 4.

No doubt about it! And maybe not playing your CB's 15 yards off on 3rd and 5. LOL

You think maybe that was due to the lack of coverage help over the top?

I think we're gonna see a major reworking of the secondary this year.

Originally posted by NCommand:

No doubt about it! And maybe not playing your CB's 15 yards off on 3rd and 5. LOL

Truth lol