Matt Hasselbeck to San Francisco?

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
hasselbeck maybe has one more playoff year in him. he's one hit away from retirement though.

His highest rating since 2007 has been 75.1. He's been miserable the last couple years. If we're going to go after QBs, I'd rather go for someone with at least some upside like Orton.

We've gotta be driving the price up on Hass., I can't see him being a real option for us.

Originally posted by LambdaChi49:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
hasselbeck maybe has one more playoff year in him. he's one hit away from retirement though.

His highest rating since 2007 has been 75.1. He's been miserable the last couple years. If we're going to go after QBs, I'd rather go for someone with at least some upside like Orton.

I'd rather develop the guy we just spent a draft pick on. Why trade for an "upside" QB when you already have the one you want? Waste of resources, IMO.

Start the best FA you can get and develop Kaep.

Is that Hass? He might be, but his poor performance compounded by his injury issues recently make him seem undesirable except as a back-up. I'll trust Harbaugh, though... I have no choice... not just because there's actually nothing I can do about the decisions the team makes... I'm also a fanboi mind slave.

For now.

Originally posted by Wodwo:

Originally posted by LambdaChi49:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
hasselbeck maybe has one more playoff year in him. he's one hit away from retirement though.

His highest rating since 2007 has been 75.1. He's been miserable the last couple years. If we're going to go after QBs, I'd rather go for someone with at least some upside like Orton.

I'd rather develop the guy we just spent a draft pick on. Why trade for an "upside" QB when you already have the one you want? Waste of resources, IMO.

Start the best FA you can get and develop Kaep.

Is that Hass? He might be, but his poor performance compounded by his injury issues recently make him seem undesirable except as a back-up. I'll trust Harbaugh, though... I have no choice... not just because there's actually nothing I can do about the decisions the team makes... I'm also a fanboi mind slave.

For now.

Yeah you're right.

Originally posted by LambdaChi49:

Originally posted by Wodwo:

Originally posted by LambdaChi49:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
hasselbeck maybe has one more playoff year in him. he's one hit away from retirement though.

His highest rating since 2007 has been 75.1. He's been miserable the last couple years. If we're going to go after QBs, I'd rather go for someone with at least some upside like Orton.

I'd rather develop the guy we just spent a draft pick on. Why trade for an "upside" QB when you already have the one you want? Waste of resources, IMO.

Start the best FA you can get and develop Kaep.

Is that Hass? He might be, but his poor performance compounded by his injury issues recently make him seem undesirable except as a back-up. I'll trust Harbaugh, though... I have no choice... not just because there's actually nothing I can do about the decisions the team makes... I'm also a fanboi mind slave.

For now.

Yeah you're right.

I love you. ::snuggles::

I like Hasselbeck and was all for him. But i don't know about having two injury prone QBs on the team now that i think about it.

A.Smith gets hurt often as well and Hasselbeck is old.

[ Edited by Young2Rice on Jul 26, 2011 at 14:32:57 ]

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
I like Hasselbeck and was all for him. But i don't know about having two injury prone QBs on the team now that i think about it.

A.Smith gets hurt often as well and Hasselbeck is old.

Poor pass blocking, IMO. Still an issue on our team as far as I'm concerned.

Hass + Smith might make it a whole season, lulz.

Who else are we going to sign as veteran back-up/competition/starter?

Not a ton of options... they all have their warts.

Originally posted by NinerGM:
I love Alex Smith, but he’s had everything at this point and continues to still throw the big pick.

Fine with bringing in Hass, but what does THIS mean? "He's had everything" what? Stud receivers? Competent coaching? Good OL?

What has he had everything of?

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by Wodwo:

Originally posted by LambdaChi49:

Originally posted by Wodwo:

Originally posted by LambdaChi49:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
hasselbeck maybe has one more playoff year in him. he's one hit away from retirement though.

His highest rating since 2007 has been 75.1. He's been miserable the last couple years. If we're going to go after QBs, I'd rather go for someone with at least some upside like Orton.

I'd rather develop the guy we just spent a draft pick on. Why trade for an "upside" QB when you already have the one you want? Waste of resources, IMO.

Start the best FA you can get and develop Kaep.

Is that Hass? He might be, but his poor performance compounded by his injury issues recently make him seem undesirable except as a back-up. I'll trust Harbaugh, though... I have no choice... not just because there's actually nothing I can do about the decisions the team makes... I'm also a fanboi mind slave.

For now.

Yeah you're right.

I love you. ::snuggles::

I’m breaking up this love fest right now! LOL.

I think Hass has something left in the gas tank – enough to get this team over the hump. I’ve stated in in previous threads, but Hass’ performance is indicative of a team that doesn’t have a strong supporting cast to help share the burden. At this point in Hass career, he can’t carry a team. I love Alex Smith, but he’s had everything at this point and continues to still throw the big pick. I think Hass would be good for this team. He doesn’t need to be uber mobile, he doesn’t need to throw 30 times a game and DCs will certainly have to game plan around Gore. Furthermore, this OL is MUCH better than the one Hass has played behind for the past two seasons. The defense is better here and even the kicking game is more solid.
We don’t need Hass to win every game for us. We need him to hit that extra pass, read that broken coverage and throw accurately in that rare window buying enough time to hit a nice play to move the chains. I think competition is great and Smith having no competition this off-season is a bad idea. I’m just saying …. We know Carr wont’ be kept so why not bring in someone who can actually compete against Alex in camp – not just a nominal competition but someone who can actually make all the throws.

Cock blocker!



The Seahawk's line gave up far less hits on their QBs than ours did last season. Our QBs were hit third most in the league. Theirs were hit 26th most.

Our line is was really one of the worst pass blocking lines in the NFL. I know many people feel that it's the fault of the quarterbacking, but I have to disagree with that assessment.

Seahawks line > 49ers line

Sad, but true.

Originally posted by NinerGM:


I agree that the Hawks line was marginally better - but this wasn't a pass-oriented offense so I wouldn't expect our guys to be that good at pass-blocking actually. Or maybe that doesn't sell logically.

However, part of the issue is quaterbacking and holding the ball a little too long ... part of that was the WR and the type of offense that we ran.

It wasn't marginal... We're talking about 3rd worst and 7th best.

I don't think the discrepancy can be explained away that easily.

Especially when you add in the fact that the Seahawks threw the ball significantly more often (14th overall vs 22nd overall) than the 49ers.

Sorry, man... I really watched the statistics closely during the season and it was consistent between both our QBs, too.... The hits stayed at the same rate, but Alex took less sacks, that was the only difference.

You really just need to watch the play that caused Smith's shoulder injury to see how absolutely inept our line was.

I will admit that they improved towards the end of the season, but I'm not convinced it wasn't because of the level of competition. The Chargers destroyed our line in the middle of slow, but steady improvement.

Hass took far less hits, no matter which way you look at it, yet he still missed time with injury. It is a problem with him as a potential FA.

Hopefully I'm wrong and our line learns to pass block. Either way, Hass doesn't sound like the best option. However, like I said... all options have their warts.

I'll trust in Harbaugh to make the right decision for the team.

Originally posted by Wodwo:

Originally posted by NinerGM:


I agree that the Hawks line was marginally better - but this wasn't a pass-oriented offense so I wouldn't expect our guys to be that good at pass-blocking actually. Or maybe that doesn't sell logically.

However, part of the issue is quaterbacking and holding the ball a little too long ... part of that was the WR and the type of offense that we ran.

It wasn't marginal... We're talking about 3rd worst and 7th best.

I don't think the discrepancy can be explained away that easily.

Especially when you add in the fact that the Seahawks threw the ball significantly more often (14th overall vs 22nd overall) than the 49ers.

Sorry, man... I really watched the statistics closely during the season and it was consistent between both our QBs, too.... The hits stayed at the same rate, but Alex took less sacks, that was the only difference.

You really just need to watch the play that caused Smith's shoulder injury to see how absolutely inept our line was.

I will admit that they improved towards the end of the season, but I'm not convinced it wasn't because of the level of competition. The Chargers destroyed our line in the middle of slow, but steady improvement.

Hass took far less hits, no matter which way you look at it, yet he still missed time with injury. It is a problem with him as a potential FA.

Hopefully I'm wrong and our line learns to pass block. Either way, Hass doesn't sound like the best option. However, like I said... all options have their warts.

I'll trust in Harbaugh to make the right decision for the team.

You can make an argument on whether Smith or Hasselbeck is our best option going forward and you can make an argument on why neither of them is as well. Signing both will, while giving us competition, also cause a big QB controversy rift for our team.

I guess the question I have, is that with a new HC and a pretty young team can we handle that?

Hasselbeck just looks physically beaten to me. That wildcard game against the Saints was his swansong. His production the past 3 years is borderline awful, not to mention we already have a stopgap QB in place.

Originally posted by dwett:

Originally posted by Wodwo:

Originally posted by NinerGM:


I agree that the Hawks line was marginally better - but this wasn't a pass-oriented offense so I wouldn't expect our guys to be that good at pass-blocking actually. Or maybe that doesn't sell logically.

However, part of the issue is quaterbacking and holding the ball a little too long ... part of that was the WR and the type of offense that we ran.

It wasn't marginal... We're talking about 3rd worst and 7th best.

I don't think the discrepancy can be explained away that easily.

Especially when you add in the fact that the Seahawks threw the ball significantly more often (14th overall vs 22nd overall) than the 49ers.

Sorry, man... I really watched the statistics closely during the season and it was consistent between both our QBs, too.... The hits stayed at the same rate, but Alex took less sacks, that was the only difference.

You really just need to watch the play that caused Smith's shoulder injury to see how absolutely inept our line was.

I will admit that they improved towards the end of the season, but I'm not convinced it wasn't because of the level of competition. The Chargers destroyed our line in the middle of slow, but steady improvement.

Hass took far less hits, no matter which way you look at it, yet he still missed time with injury. It is a problem with him as a potential FA.

Hopefully I'm wrong and our line learns to pass block. Either way, Hass doesn't sound like the best option. However, like I said... all options have their warts.

I'll trust in Harbaugh to make the right decision for the team.

You can make an argument on whether Smith or Hasselbeck is our best option going forward and you can make an argument on why neither of them is as well. Signing both will, while giving us competition, also cause a big QB controversy rift for our team.

I guess the question I have, is that with a new HC and a pretty young team can we handle that?

I believe Alex already said he'd be fine with it. I don't think Hass is the type of dude to cause division, but I don't know much about him.

Have to defer to Harbaugh on that one again. Not really sure.

I would only like to sign him as a backup. His career officially ended when Patrick Willis met him at the goal line last season.

Originally posted by YungAce:
I would only like to sign him as a backup. His career officially ended when Patrick Willis met him at the goal line last season.

I honestly would love to have him as a back-up, but I don't know if that's something he's interested in.

We'll just have to wait and see.